So who gains from this orchestrated campaign charging Bernie supporters with being violent thugs?

[imagine2015]

Clearly not Bernie Sanders. That's not the way he operates. But I don't think Clinton surrogates and party bosses have any problem orchestrating such a campaign. Ya do whatever it takes to stop those "radical liberals" challenging the status quo. And we all know that Trump and his campaign workers have no limits to what they will do to stop Bernie. Trump did threaten to send some thugs to break up Bernie's campaign meetings. Remember that?

Only two people can reap dividends and have anything to gain from the false claim that Bernie campaign is threatening and harassing Democratic Party officials who are trying to stop Bernie.

1. Hillary Clinton the poor victim of those horrible thugs, hippies, bug eyed, crazy people in Bernie's campaign.

2. Donald Trump who would rather face the weaker candidate, Hillary Clinton, in the November election.

So who is actually sending out those threatening instant messages and e-mails?

And which Democratic Party officials are organizing this so-called anti-violence campaign?

The only person attacked that I'm aware of was a Bernie supporter who was punched by a prominent Hillary campaign worker!

What did Hillary and her surrogates have to say about that?

[pmorlan1]

1. Reminds Me of the '72 Nixon Campaign

It will probably make David Brock lots of money when he writes a book about it down the road.

[reddread]

2. the Right. the forces of division and repression.

which, in an unbelievable streak of fortune, always seem to benefit from
the best efforts of certain established Democrats.
math or something.

[yourpaljoey]

3. It was orchestrated. There are more brown shirts in our future.

[Doctor_J]

4. cui bono

Always good to ask. Who benefited the most from 9/11?

[riversedge]

5. guess you have missed msnbc and cnn today who have showed the video and played the vile

text messages from Sanders supporters.

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Area code of that phone was 619

Take my word, that is not one Verizon phone based in Nevada. The call came from CA. Since Ralston released the number...some simple track down has that call possibly made from Los Angeles.

I might push up the slack and actually do it

[riversedge]

8. Never said it was from NV. In fact the nytimes story said the vile calls/texts came

from a lot of places across the country

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. That should get your antenna up

It might even be a dirty trick from the other side. Yes, republicans. Covering courts long enough I just will not be shocked if this is not exactly what it looks like when all is said and done.

By the way...it is a federal offense.

[riversedge]

13. Might be. But it was the Sanders fans in the convention hall causing the problems.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. From reconstructing what happened

There was enough process violations, that a HRC supporter left and others took sides with Bernie supporters. So it is not that black and white. It just reaffirmed my belief that this was not necessary and that I will pretend to vote in manipulated elections where I don't expect it to count.

I am too stubborn to stay home. But I just expect some torta and cokes to be distributed for the proposer ballot stuffing. What should scare you is that I am not alone.

I just read that story. And yup, it has all the makings of a classic Karl Rove dirty trick. Covered enough of this shit to really make me think in two years, assuming there is even a police report...a court somewhere, in many places actually...might, just might, find out what really happened as far as that is concerned. If these calls were from Nevada...it would not strain credibility that this was not orchestrated.

[TwilightZone]

11. The call came from CA

Proof, please.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. See the story from tje NYT that multiple calls came from all over

[TwilightZone]

16. "multiple calls" came from "all over"

That isn't proof. You said that this particular call was made from California.

Prove it.

You understand that mobile phones are mobile, correct? Your assumption that the call had to originate where the number was based is intentionally obtuse.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Area code is 619

Are you telling me the area code for my phone is not 619? That be news to me and AT&T.

And why would a CA resident be at the Nevada party convention? And the story from the NYT has many calls coming from outside the state of Nevada. Try logic, it works

[TwilightZone]

29. You can't be serious.

You understand that you can take your phone to other places, right?

And you can still make phone calls from that other place, right?

Your intentional obtuseness is, frankly, remarkable. You're making leaps of logic that have no basis. A NY Times story about some phone calls PROVES that this one particular phone call was made in California? In what universe?

As for Californians attending the Nevada convention, I guess you'd have to ask them:

And, look, it's a Verizon phone, no less.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. You do know that a CA resident

Would not get credentials to a Nevada state party. I am being serious. This does smell of a very well orchestrated dirty trick. It even has a Karl Rove element to it.

If you are a Nevada state convention delegate your area code would be from anywhere in Nevada.

[azurnoir]

19. they play claims from Ralston Reports who is the sole source for virtually all of smears

against Bernie supporters in NV - the M$M is parroting his every musing , which are escalating as news about the investigation of the Clinton Foundation spreads- gotta drown it out somehow

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. Thanks to John Ralston breaking journalistic rules

The phone call, at least one, came from my town...San Diego.

[Maru Kitteh]

9. Maybe if they tried not actually BEING violent thugs they wouldn't have this problem.

There's a simple solution here. SBS needs to go before the cameras and denounce this shitty behavior and call for an end to it, and then move forward with his campaign as he wishes but with a firm direction to his followers that this is NOT to occur.

[TwilightZone]

14. Occam's razor

The simple solution is: it wasn't orchestrated.

You're making assumptions when none are needed.

[Bad Thoughts]

23. This razor?

[TwilightZone]

24. Yeah, exactly like that.

The story was so ridiculous that the most-likely conclusion was that it was false.

Thanks for providing an excellent example of the concept.

As for relevance to the current situation, one person doesn't a mob make.

[anotherproletariat]

15. I don't think it's orchestrated...there is actual video.

I hate to break it to you, but those people in the video, and the ones calling the Nevada DNC Chair are thugs.

On the bright side, I can't imagine any thinking person would therefore assume that all Sanders supporters can be lumped together in any one group.

[seabeyond]

17. You people are a trip

[AgingAmerican]

21. Hillary supporters don't do foresight

[nc4bo]

22. It's HER turn god dammit. nt

[amborin]

25. more nefarious variant of the BernieBro smear; this time, it's getting scarier and more totalitarian

[HooptieWagon]

26. It's Brocks army of social media trolls.

What we have so far is just baseless claims. It should be easy to trace these "threats" and make arrests...unless it's a load of bullshit. We'll know which it is when arrests are made or not.

[Vinca]

27. Trump.

In fact, it could be Trump operatives doing it. Get the Bernie people so pissed off they vote for "The Donald."

[pdsimdars]

28. Who are the thugs, the ones with the guns and billy clubs or the ones booing?

Put down the vapors and get a grip on reality.

[Amaril]

31. They've had little to nothing to say

.....and I earned my first jury hide for throwing it in the face of a Hillary supporter who was accusing every Sanders supporter in a thread of being part of the "violence" in Nevada.

But, you know, sticks & stones won't break your bones, but words will definitely hurt you.

[lapfog_1]

32. On another thread there was a video of a Bernie supporter

who was at the Nevada Democratic convention.

She seemed like she was getting angry AT BERNIE SANDERS for not coming to the defense of his Nevada delegates and issuing press statements to support his people there and refute the claims of violence, etc.

I see where she is coming from... but I also get why Bernie's national campaign might not want to jump to the aid of the Sanders supporters in Nevada without knowing (yet) if any of the death threats or vile social media postings WERE from angry and passionate Bernie supporters and not David Brock's ratfucking (her contention is that all such postings were the result of paid ratfuckers (look up the term, it's not new).

So he may have decided to "be the bigger person" and let this go... and disappoint his supporters who feel that they were screwed by the Democratic Party and Roberta whats-her-name.

And that disappointment (along with disheartening Bernie supporters everywhere) is the likely goal.

However, this could backfire on Clinton for the general election as many Bernie supporters might just sit it out (no true Dem could ever vote for fascist Trump... but a disheartened Bernie supporter who feels cheated in the primary might well stay home... or at least not GOTV come November).