2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAll of you people who are insisting that the DNC
Committed Fraud and this and that sound like Republicans.
Seriously. Freepers, even. And it doesn't get worse than that.
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)that sound like the preppy riot
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bloom
(11,635 posts)ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)it's between Trump & Hillary he would HAVE to take Hillary! I saw Democracy Now TWICE. Check their website and watch it again! It wasn't said THAT WAY!
djean111
(14,255 posts)'bye.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)Bernie has already changed the political landscape dramatically. The Democratic Party has a big decision to make over the next two months.
Do they embrace Bernie and the mega-millions of Americans who his views represent and thereby remain a viable party into the future, or do they go the way of the GOP. That's really what Bernie's campaign has been about, and now what it comes down to. In that regard, Bernie has already won.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)stating things like this (and it seems most HRC supporters feel this way) will not end well for the Democratic Party. It's egregious, outrageous, and unsupportable.
You are making it very difficult for many of us to want to stand with you politically. It is YOUR side in this primary fight that is behaving like the Republicans during this primary. In many, many ways.
Merryland
(1,134 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)for what they do.
If you think only Republicans demonstrate corruption, then youre either in for a rude awakening (which should have happened already; as it has for many including myself) or you are in denial (and may want for that to be the case).
What went on in Nevada was inflicted by Hillary Clinton people. And it was not only damaging but also dumb. If there is such certainty the 2016 Democratic Party nomination will be won by Hillary Clinton, you dont do this.
A general-election nominee Hillary Clinton cannot get elected the next president of the United States without the primaries voters who have supported Bernie Sanders. And the Nevada incident is an example for how it is possible, in this presidential election year, to take down the party.
bloom
(11,635 posts)"And the Nevada incident is an example for how it is possible, in this presidential election year, to take down the party."
See - that is what it sounds like some of you would like to do - and I think it is absurd. I think some people have gotten a bit carried away with their revolutionary ideas and will say just about anything to move that along.
Yes - I realize that Democrats are not perfect and that to win elections, some corporations must be courted. That is not going to change - even if some do manage to "take down the party".
You know - utopia sounds really great - but then there is reality.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)bloom
(11,635 posts)She is a lot more liberal that the majority around her give her credit for.
I don't think that Sanders is up to the job. So there is that.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)And voting for Hillary Clinton is not a sellout only if she becomes the 2016 version of Franklin Roosevelt.
I will not hold my breath.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)timmymoff
(1,947 posts)and you having to sell her being "liberal" shows this.
Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)neoliberal policy that keeps us at war abroad and crushes the middle class at home. Sad to say, so does Obama, though not as eagerly. I expect that she will sign the TPP, after tweaking it a bit so she can say it is better now, and this will destroy many of us, financially.
I'm sorry to say I think there is a tacit agreement between the two parties to campaign on social issues, so that the issues that matter to the 1%, and which affect us all, can be ignored. Bernie broke the rules, in this respect.
Skink
(10,122 posts)Party to money laundering is more precise.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The FBI will sort it all out
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)I guess Brock will need to budget a bit more for the next state convention.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)David Brock working for Hillary Clinton!
How is this not a problem with any Democrat who calls himself a progressive?
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)KPN
(15,646 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)GoldenThunder
(300 posts)... and rise up to take this nation back. The legions of loyalists among us are not going to be treated so well.
see Tories in America circa 1783.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Our country is back. It's ours. I know a lot of people feel cheated finally having to share it, but it's never, ever going back to what it was before.
GoldenThunder
(300 posts)It's spelled O-L-I-G-A-R-G-H-Y.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Again: where do you hear that most often, and from whom?
KPN
(15,646 posts)This political revolution has legs. Better get used to it. Oh, by the way, I'm thinking it will be on display if necessary between now and through the convention. The DNC, DWS and Clintons have some soul searching they need to do -- and soon. How they respond to the largest block of voters in America (D and I Berners) will undoubtedly affect them and the Party.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)Well.
Duck!
dchill
(38,501 posts)Care to buy a clue? It'll cost you $27.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)Hillarys mantra is " we cant". At least Obama said we can, and he did. Hillary is a fraud.
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Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)the GE we won't hear Hillary supporters complaining about cheating?
jillan
(39,451 posts)more cerebral. We question, we notice when there is injustice or when we are being lied to.
And we are not afraid to speak out when necessary.
So, I think you may have it backwards.