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All of you people who are insisting that the DNC (Original Post) bloom May 2016 OP
um, nooooo, it is those saying "Get over it" and paraphrasing "Sore Loserman" GreatGazoo May 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #2
And Chomsky has recommended people go with Hillary n/t bloom May 2016 #3
HE DID NOT SAY THAT!!! He Said He Votes For Bernie In The Primary, BUT IF ChiciB1 May 2016 #19
Noted. djean111 May 2016 #4
agreed. thinking this is the best course of action. Hiraeth May 2016 #10
Great signature line! KPN May 2016 #28
In light of everything that has happened this primary and ESPECIALLY in Nevada recently, stillwaiting May 2016 #5
couldn't agree more. eom Merryland May 2016 #6
+1000 Kittycat May 2016 #27
Spot on! KPN May 2016 #30
bloom—No. Take a look and be honest with this “Democratic Party”… CobaltBlue May 2016 #7
"Take down the party" bloom May 2016 #12
bloom—Reality by Ds is telling people, who dissent, to sell out. CobaltBlue May 2016 #13
A vote for Hillary is not selling out bloom May 2016 #14
bloom—I K-N-O-W Bernie Sanders is up for the job. All other Rs/Ds, who ran, are not. CobaltBlue May 2016 #15
Sanders is SEVERAL points ahead while Clinton's cratering MisterP May 2016 #22
it absolutely is selling out timmymoff May 2016 #23
She's socially liberal but she supports a Blue Meany May 2016 #35
Fraud is sort of a generic term Skink May 2016 #8
It's all on video AgingAmerican May 2016 #9
You know what's not on video? The violence that many are decrying. winter is coming May 2016 #11
winter is coming—Right-wing hit man against Anita Hill… CobaltBlue May 2016 #16
Fuck Freepers and anyone that calls me one. 99Forever May 2016 #17
+1000 Punkingal May 2016 #18
+1. VulgarPoet May 2016 #20
This^^ Exactly!!!! KPN May 2016 #31
Where the hell have you been? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #21
When the people have finally had enough... GoldenThunder May 2016 #24
Hm. "I want my country back". Where do we hear that, all the time? Recursion May 2016 #29
Are you really that dense. GoldenThunder May 2016 #32
I'm not the one oblivious to the subtext of "I want our country back" Recursion May 2016 #33
Of course it isn't, but it sure as hell isn't going to remain the same! KPN May 2016 #34
Hey, if it walks like a duck and quacks.... cliffordu May 2016 #25
Maybe because that's what THEY'RE acting like. dchill May 2016 #26
When I am told nothing is possible, I know it is a Republican speaking larkrake May 2016 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #40
Working w/Sheldon Adelson to send sick grannies to prison for smoking pot sounds Republican, too Warren DeMontague May 2016 #37
So I'm guessing that when the Republicans pull the exact same tactics against Hillary in liberal_at_heart May 2016 #38
Actually ignoring it and walking in lock step sounds exactly like a Republican. Democrats tend to be jillan May 2016 #39
It is all documented, right here on this site. nt silvershadow May 2016 #41

Response to bloom (Original post)

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
19. HE DID NOT SAY THAT!!! He Said He Votes For Bernie In The Primary, BUT IF
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:21 PM
May 2016

it's between Trump & Hillary he would HAVE to take Hillary! I saw Democracy Now TWICE. Check their website and watch it again! It wasn't said THAT WAY!

KPN

(15,646 posts)
28. Great signature line!
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:44 AM
May 2016

Bernie has already changed the political landscape dramatically. The Democratic Party has a big decision to make over the next two months.

Do they embrace Bernie and the mega-millions of Americans who his views represent and thereby remain a viable party into the future, or do they go the way of the GOP. That's really what Bernie's campaign has been about, and now what it comes down to. In that regard, Bernie has already won.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
5. In light of everything that has happened this primary and ESPECIALLY in Nevada recently,
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:16 AM
May 2016

stating things like this (and it seems most HRC supporters feel this way) will not end well for the Democratic Party. It's egregious, outrageous, and unsupportable.

You are making it very difficult for many of us to want to stand with you politically. It is YOUR side in this primary fight that is behaving like the Republicans during this primary. In many, many ways.



 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
7. bloom—No. Take a look and be honest with this “Democratic Party”…
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:19 AM
May 2016

for what they do.

If you think only Republicans demonstrate corruption, then you’re either in for a rude awakening (which should have happened already; as it has for many including myself) or you are in denial (and may want for that to be the case).

What went on in Nevada was inflicted by Hillary Clinton people. And it was not only damaging but also dumb. If there is such certainty the 2016 Democratic Party nomination will be won by Hillary Clinton, you don’t do this.

A general-election nominee Hillary Clinton cannot get elected the next president of the United States without the primaries voters who have supported Bernie Sanders. And the Nevada incident is an example for how it is possible, in this presidential election year, to take down the party.

bloom

(11,635 posts)
12. "Take down the party"
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

"And the Nevada incident is an example for how it is possible, in this presidential election year, to take down the party."

See - that is what it sounds like some of you would like to do - and I think it is absurd. I think some people have gotten a bit carried away with their revolutionary ideas and will say just about anything to move that along.

Yes - I realize that Democrats are not perfect and that to win elections, some corporations must be courted. That is not going to change - even if some do manage to "take down the party".


You know - utopia sounds really great - but then there is reality.

bloom

(11,635 posts)
14. A vote for Hillary is not selling out
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:34 AM
May 2016

She is a lot more liberal that the majority around her give her credit for.

I don't think that Sanders is up to the job. So there is that.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
15. bloom—I K-N-O-W Bernie Sanders is up for the job. All other Rs/Ds, who ran, are not.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:51 AM
May 2016

And voting for Hillary Clinton is not a sellout only if she becomes the 2016 version of Franklin Roosevelt.

I will not hold my breath.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
35. She's socially liberal but she supports a
Wed May 18, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

neoliberal policy that keeps us at war abroad and crushes the middle class at home. Sad to say, so does Obama, though not as eagerly. I expect that she will sign the TPP, after tweaking it a bit so she can say it is better now, and this will destroy many of us, financially.

I'm sorry to say I think there is a tacit agreement between the two parties to campaign on social issues, so that the issues that matter to the 1%, and which affect us all, can be ignored. Bernie broke the rules, in this respect.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
11. You know what's not on video? The violence that many are decrying.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

I guess Brock will need to budget a bit more for the next state convention.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
16. winter is coming—Right-wing hit man against Anita Hill…
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:55 AM
May 2016

David Brock working for Hillary Clinton!

How is this not a problem with any Democrat who calls himself a progressive?

GoldenThunder

(300 posts)
24. When the people have finally had enough...
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:30 AM
May 2016

... and rise up to take this nation back. The legions of loyalists among us are not going to be treated so well.

see Tories in America circa 1783.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
29. Hm. "I want my country back". Where do we hear that, all the time?
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:45 AM
May 2016

Our country is back. It's ours. I know a lot of people feel cheated finally having to share it, but it's never, ever going back to what it was before.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
33. I'm not the one oblivious to the subtext of "I want our country back"
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:54 AM
May 2016

Again: where do you hear that most often, and from whom?

KPN

(15,646 posts)
34. Of course it isn't, but it sure as hell isn't going to remain the same!
Wed May 18, 2016, 12:55 AM
May 2016

This political revolution has legs. Better get used to it. Oh, by the way, I'm thinking it will be on display if necessary between now and through the convention. The DNC, DWS and Clintons have some soul searching they need to do -- and soon. How they respond to the largest block of voters in America (D and I Berners) will undoubtedly affect them and the Party.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
36. When I am told nothing is possible, I know it is a Republican speaking
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:13 AM
May 2016

Hillarys mantra is " we cant". At least Obama said we can, and he did. Hillary is a fraud.

Response to larkrake (Reply #36)

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
38. So I'm guessing that when the Republicans pull the exact same tactics against Hillary in
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:20 AM
May 2016

the GE we won't hear Hillary supporters complaining about cheating?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
39. Actually ignoring it and walking in lock step sounds exactly like a Republican. Democrats tend to be
Wed May 18, 2016, 03:23 AM
May 2016

more cerebral. We question, we notice when there is injustice or when we are being lied to.
And we are not afraid to speak out when necessary.

So, I think you may have it backwards.

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