A new low: The Democratic Establishment hiding behind the bully label.

[Skwmom]

There are plenty of children that have been horribly bullied with disastrous consequences. To misuse the bully label is disgusting.

[LWolf]

1. That it is.

[notadmblnd]

2. Especially since they're behind the bullying themselves

HRC is a-Okay with running on being a victim.

[JaneyVee]

3. LOL Bernie's entire campaign has been about perpetual persecution and martyrdom.

Everything is a giant conspiracy against Bernie Sanders, the perpetual victim.

[Hortensis]

25. :) They're trying to "disrupt" the firestorm blowback

on The Sanders Campaign from their successful attempt to turn the Nevada convention into chaos. This scandal is being reported across the nation, Skw, and is far beyond any little effort to spin away here on DU.

For any who haven't read it, this Nevada State Democratic Party's letter reporting on what happened is far more incendiary than even what it charges The Sanders Campaign orchestrated at their convention. It's really good reading too.

We believe, unfortunately, that the tactics and behavior on display here in Nevada are harbingers of things to come as Democrats gather in Philadelphia in July for our National Convention. We write to alert you to what we perceive as the Sander Campaign’s penchant for extra-parliamentary behavior—indeed, actual violence—in place of democratic conduct in a convention setting, and furthermore what we can only describe as their encouragement of, and complicity in, a very dangerous atmosphere that ended in chaos and physical threats to fellow Democrats.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/312844982/160516-Letter-DNC-RBC-NVDemsConvention

In case anyone is wondering, this isn't how democracy works, even when it's your candidate. This is anti-democracy. The Sanders Campaign is hundreds of delegates behind. What were/are they planning to do next after picking up the expected 4 or so (four!) delegates in Nevada?

[1StrongBlackMan]

31. Wow ... At what point does Bernie get involved?

[Hortensis]

37. Well Sanders and Clinton had Senator Boxer give a message

of unity for them, but sadly it was drowned out by Sanders Campaign-organized "disunity."

As for any other Bernie involvement, this is believed to have been planned and and witnessed to be orchestrated by his campaign staff, but the letter doesn't claim he knew a thing about it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

38. I guess that's a problem when you run a revolution when ...

not running a revolution.

[Hortensis]

40. Which begs the thought, in me anyway, what if

Bernie had incited the revolution he'd hoped for? What would that look like?

[1StrongBlackMan]

42. We are seeing what it would look like ... chaos.

[Hortensis]

43. It could be far worse than in the 1960s-70s.

The population has exploded, while the typical city has 3 days of food available, and the water supplies depend not only on electricity but often aged and undependable backup water pumps. Terrorist tactics engaged in by political revolutionaries here could be devastating to hundreds of thousands. (And what if anti-American terrorist groups decided to help out?)

I know this is a bit much, but I do believe it could happen. Given the 2016 realities of extreme dependence and interdependence, many millions of our 330 million people depend on continuation of support systems just to live out the week. Relatively speaking, it would not take much of a disruption of our nation, instead of just a convention, to cause a hundred thousand deaths.

And political movements can't hand-pick their revolutionaries, they pick themselves. Some of these people are meaner than hell and some yearn for destruction.

[1StrongBlackMan]

44. Yeah ... I think that's a bit much ...

But, whose to tell? ... Given the "revolutionary" spirit being born.

[Hortensis]

46. The nice response I expected.

Extremism makes me wary at baseline, so of course I'm going to be kind of rattled these days. 58% of Republicans just said they trusted Trump to lead the party over Paul Ryan, a Koch brothers mole himself, and here on DU some will excuse any behavior, reject any truth, and believe any lie in support of their leader.

You're a good guy, 1Strong. I'll be very glad when this is over, we swear in a competent liberal president and Senate majority, and we get to continuing the advances President Obama has begun.

[1StrongBlackMan]

47. I will be glad, too ...

however, that DU is cheering on trump concerns me.

[Hortensis]

50. Really? What are you thinking?

The worst for me has been knowing that visitors coming would be reading their noxious anti-Democratic messages instead of our happy aspirations, but otherwise...?

We always knew that some DUers were right wingers attracted to Sanders' anti-establishment message and that others came to support him briefly just to defeat Clinton. Add in that it is wide open to right-wing fifth columnists and no surprise they're flooding the forums with conservative poison.

On top of everything, the far left is a lot more sympathetic to the far right than either is to more moderate people, like liberal Democrats, so no doubt there is the usual movement from one to the other across the "bottom of the U."

But surely none of these could have ever been Hillary voters anyway?

[JaneyVee]

4. You mean like the children who were bullied in Cali by screaming Bernie fans?

[Gavile]

5. We don't know they were Bernie fans

The only thing we do know for sure is that they were Hispanics who were unhappy with Hillary's stance on immigration.

[puffy socks]

9. Let's see

Thus far we've seen their nasty antics
in Nevada (yes thats bullying)
a supporter has been arrested for threatening to cut out a super delegate's tongue.
thousands of nasty threats to E Warren for not endorsing Sanders after they previously put a fake endorsement ad in the NYT
Thousands of threats to other SDs
Stabbing your own supporters in the back Nina Turner
breaking through the DNC firewall and of course, as with every election lost by Bernie... conspiracies about a supposedly rigged system.


Yeah, it's safe to assume thise on LA were Bernie's nasty fanatics

[NorthCarolina]

11. Wow, David Brocks hired hit squad has been busy. -nt-

[puffy socks]

13. Gee

another Brock accusation how totally expected.

[NorthCarolina]

14. Well, being that it's

(a) a juvenile tactic, and (b) that it comes just after Brock gathers his paid "forces", and (c) that his paid mercenaires are out in force taking about what "Bernie supporters did"...it all seems pretty obvious.

[KittyWampus]

21. Listing several (but not all) blatant examples of Berniebro bullying behavior

isn't a juvenile tactic.

Name-calling by saying "Brockian" is juvenile.

You can't face the truth of what many of your fellow Sanders supporters are doing or you need to excuse that behavior?

That's all on you.

[puffy socks]

22. Only if one is

paranoid and delusional.

[BernieforPres2016]

6. It is time for progressives to realize the Democratic Party is hopelessly corrupt

It is not going to be changed from the inside. A third party movement is required.

[reddread]

10. you think they are hopelessly corrupt, yet will permit other parties a fair shot?

I think we better fight for one of the two parties permitted to fully participate.

[ancianita]

7. k & r with thanks!

[B Calm]

8. They cram a shitty conservative candidate down our throats and then call us bullies.

[KittyWampus]

18. Nobody is "cramming" anything down your throats. It's a Primary in a Democracy. With voting.

Your candidate is losing and badly due to numerous faults within himself, his campaign and his surrogates and his supporters.

[B Calm]

23. Before the primary even casted the first vote in Iowa, Hillary had

over a 500 super delegate lead (easily googled). That is cramming their shitty candidate to the front of the line!

[Merryland]

26. exactly. eom

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. So how do you explain the Pledged Delegate and popular vote lead? ...

And I'm sure you know that the Super Delegates don't matter until the convention, right?

[liberalmike27]

39. That Handicap

Would put Bernie in the lead right now, were he to have the largess of the established politicians and lobbyists who make up the rich, political establishment in this country.

Al Frankin mentioned how he trusted the vote of his constituents to allow him to vote the way he chose, which I interpreted as him saying "Well I care about what they thought back then, in electing me, but I don't care about what they want NOW."

[mythology]

56. Clinton had a lead in super delegates in 2008 too

But once Obama was going to win the pledged delegates, the super delegates flipped. It makes a rather awkward point for your position.

[GreatGazoo]

36. exit polls don't lie

there was cramming

[B Calm]

45. This primary has been fixed from the get-go.

[truedelphi]

53. Read something outside your bubble and then get back to us.

http://www.inquisitr.com/3096404/the-nevada-convention-where-democracy-went-to-die/

[B Calm]

57. Omg, another virus warning. Thanks a lot!

[seabeyond]

15. A new low: Excuses and justification made for bullying and intimidation.

[NurseJackie]

16. "Think of the children! How dare anyone 'misuse' the word 'bully'? It's disgusting!" :-P

Gurl-please! F'real? Okay!

[KittyWampus]

17. Predictable low- Bullies blaming the victims. At this point so much evidence

has been presented over the last few months of Berniebros and their bullying behavior I can only do an eye roll at the OP

[ViseGrip]

19. 41% of the vote UP FRONT, is a bullying machine!

[truedelphi]

52. Exactly. The Party Leaders know who is who when it comes to voting, and it scares them

Senseless that they cannot win against Trump in November.

Forty one to Forty three percent of all voters can't ahck Hillary, and they won't.

They needed to wake up and help Bernie secure the nomination.

Instead, you have this:

http://www.inquisitr.com/3096404/the-nevada-convention-where-democracy-went-to-die/

[CobaltBlue]

24. The Establishment’s Message: Today’s Democratic Party = Tomorrow’s Republican Party

[B Calm]

27. That's it! They are taking over and they expect

(with their right-wing authoritarian attitude) that the old Democrats who built the party either join them, or get the hell out of the way.

[CobaltBlue]

29. B Calm—It is clear. Here is a recent take…

[Dem2]

28. I never see posts from you NOT attacking Democrats

What's the deal?

[B Calm]

30. Your answer.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107130238

[1StrongBlackMan]

34. So ... You are just seeking attention? Weird.

[Dem2]

35. Yes, that's the answer I'd expect from a juvenile

But what is the actual answer?

[JTFrog]

33. Because bullies so often admit to being bullies. n/t

[LexVegas]

41. Bullying takes many forms. Like the Berniebros in Nevada....many of them are bullies. nt

[VulgarPoet]

48. They have the unmitigated gall to call us bullies while hiding behind their brownshirts?

If I wanted something repugnant shoved down my throat, I'd call my ex-boyfriend-- and yet, the DNC pushed Clinton, and then berate ideas of switching to a third party as "voting for Trump". To cacophonous whinging from the Clintonistas about how she's not being shoved down our throat. Tell that to the no doubt hundreds of thousands who mysteriously got their registrations changed, tell that to the easily hackable voting machines, tell that to fucking Debbie Downer.

[B Calm]

49. +1

[seabeyond]

51. Another new low: Sanders team instigated the chaos in NV convention with supporters the night before

A planned mob to change the rules to their favor so they could cheat. They were stopped and threw their tantrum. Too unreal.

[senz]

54. It's slander against Bernie supporters.

They've been doing it from the start. When you have no strength as a candidate, you go dirty.

[pdsimdars]

55. The Democratic Establishment hiding behind the bully label. As they LITERALLY hide behind

the brown shirts to bully the Bernie supporters..


AND they don't get it.