2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI made a plea for civility. Now I have a question for Sanders supporters.
Now, I am seeing a disturbing trend around this Nevada incident.
I read escalation of language.
I read posts that promoting 'any means necessary' as long as it is against Democrats leadership and Hillary supporters.
I checked uploaded voice mail using language such as 'hung' and 'kill'.
I read the language that suggest some sort of French revolution like events in a positive manner.
I generally welcome Sanders staying in the race as long as it is positive and civil.
Push as much as you want to demand more left leaning policy platforms. I support that as
a Hillary supporter.
However, please stop using lynch mob like language.
All violent revolutions had ended in bloody mess. Do you remember Stalin? Cultural Revolution?
Killing field?
Please be civil.
I am just so sad to read and listen to these language.
Hertopos
Ash_F
(5,861 posts)elleng
(130,908 posts)perfectly understandable.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Ash_F
(5,861 posts)These videos are plenty civil and contain no death threats
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511977185
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)elleng
(130,908 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)I have seen two raw videos of this convention, and what Nina Turner and other party leaders who were there have well described.
I knew better than to fall over with round heels on that phony story about Turner getting the push-back. There was no such thing.
Boxer, who didn't even stay, went up to the podium out of order, disrespected party attendees and voters, LEFT, while Turner and Florez calmed everyone down.
And there was good reason to be mad. You can't get away with putting together such a poorly planned convention where people trying to get in had to walk long distances from the Paris, which resulted in 60 to 70 people who were part of this process in being turned away for a result of national delegates that carried by 30 votes!
Party chairs to this thing weren't fair. They were all Clinton delegates. The voice vote wasn't fair. The "nay"s CLEARLY had it. These unfair actions were even pointed out by other Clinton delegates.
What a charade. That chair ought to get the boot.
Not going to take this unfair stuff any more!
elleng
(130,908 posts)so kind of spreading it around: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280196749
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)elleng
(130,908 posts)Spreading the word: Posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280196749
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)About this is the absolute silence of Sanders himself and his top campaign surrogates
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)You're an internet forum poster, you control nothing.
.99center
(1,237 posts)One Black Sheep
(458 posts)some have shown civility, but many others seem to be baiting the Sanders supporters, and rubbing in their anticipated victory, like salt in a wound. Just my opinion from reading threads here.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)When I think of Revolutions I look to people like MLK Jr. or Ghandi. You can have a peaceful and yet very powerful and very successful non violent revolution. When tens of millions of Americans march in the streets they will have to take notice. I'm thinking about taking a bus or a train out to Philadelphia for the convention. I think a lot of Bernie supporters are probably thinking about doing the same thing. They think they can just take our democracy without any consequences. They are wrong.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)We wouldn't be here, he would be the nominee
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Since you can't actually win the election. That's pretty much what you're saying. And after the next several states vote it will be more apparent.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I was wondering what it took to get ignored around this place. As far as I tell this is my first time on an ignore list.
Who knew it was as simple as disagreeing with someone. If someone takes offense this easily, then they should just talk to themselves.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)We see this primary as a do or die to try to get our Party back from the very Rich and Powerful that passed Citizens United that we all were against until Hillary. Now the Hillary camp embrace Citizens United, Fracking, NAFTA and TPP and TTIP, Prisons For Profits, the Corp-Media, etc. And we have to fight for the soul of our Party, the Party of the People not Goldman-Sachs.
Those of you that support corporatism, get out of our Party, find your own Party.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)I wished Mr. O'Malley got some traction, his ideology are very similar to Mr. Sanders. I like Bernie but we all know he will not get the nomination, very sad, but it is what it is!
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Oh, Rick.
akbacchus_BC
(5,704 posts)getting upbeat but not disrespectful!
2banon
(7,321 posts)give us break. sheesh.
MelungeonWoman
(502 posts)Any arrests yet? Any investigations? Anything?
I mean, after all, she is a United States Senator.
I heard about a guy who was arrested for punching Bernie supporters.
AgerolanAmerican
(1,000 posts)- John F. Kennedy
If Clinton supporters can't get on board in support of "free and fair elections", then there is no "civil" to be had.
The fraud is obvious, it is extreme, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see it.
If you are Democrats and you support democracy then you must condemn this travesty of a primary process.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)I wont vote for Hillary, but I dont worry either . She wont get anything done, neither will Trump She will cave and become Repub lite, he will be sidelined. It is congress we need to focus on, to stop the regression. Passion can lead to bad language, Just chill out and vote a strong down ticket
.99center
(1,237 posts)Then you're aware that a phone number of a private citizen was posted here by one of Hillary supporters for the intent of harassment.
This is not civil
"Wendell Pierce, Actor From The Wire, Arrested in Altercation Over Politics"
"The actor then began to push her, Ms. Baca told the police, and as she and her friends walked away to their room, Mr. Pierce followed them and tried to force his way in. In the tussle, Ms. Baca said, Mr. Pierce began to hit her in the head and grab her hoodie, ripping the hood off.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/wendell-pierce-actor-from-the-wire-arrested-in-altercation.html
This not civil
"boo yourselves out of this election.We have the votes, we have the voice, we have victory! Yay! Let's hear it for Hillary Clinton!"
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This not civil
"Bill Clinton: Sanders fans would shoot every third person on Wall Street"
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276542-bill-clinton-sanders-fans-would-shoot-every-third-person
This is not civil
Go demand civility from the Democratic establishment, before they cause you guy's to hurt someone else.
demwing
(16,916 posts)Revolution is building, I hope it will be peaceful, but Hillary and Trump seem hell-bent on averting peace.
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Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)If you look at her facebook she clearly calls for violence.
https://www.facebook.com/linda.dupree
She is not the only one. I think people should take these threats seriously and have a video convention in Philly.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)has a return request:
Please do not be part of the effort to spread this propaganda mischaracterizing the Sanders campaign and Sanders supporters.
Do be aware that every further attempt on the part of party leadership to silence the large number of Democrats who: 1. Are currently supporting Sanders, and 2. Have never supported the neo-liberal takeover of the party, can only move the Party further and further away from a win in November. Do not attempt to minimize the honest anger against the party establishment; it only feeds that anger.