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hertopos

(833 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:45 PM May 2016

I made a plea for civility. Now I have a question for Sanders supporters.

Now, I am seeing a disturbing trend around this Nevada incident.

I read escalation of language.
I read posts that promoting 'any means necessary' as long as it is against Democrats leadership and Hillary supporters.

I checked uploaded voice mail using language such as 'hung' and 'kill'.

I read the language that suggest some sort of French revolution like events in a positive manner.

I generally welcome Sanders staying in the race as long as it is positive and civil.
Push as much as you want to demand more left leaning policy platforms. I support that as
a Hillary supporter.

However, please stop using lynch mob like language.
All violent revolutions had ended in bloody mess. Do you remember Stalin? Cultural Revolution?
Killing field?

Please be civil.

I am just so sad to read and listen to these language.

Hertopos

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I made a plea for civility. Now I have a question for Sanders supporters. (Original Post) hertopos May 2016 OP
Party leaders should have followed their own rules in NV Ash_F May 2016 #1
Yes, and the fact they didn't caused frustration, elleng May 2016 #5
Now we're justifying death threats and misogyny? JaneyVee May 2016 #28
Don't put words in my mouth Ash_F May 2016 #31
This is the same type of campaign run by Trump, it is time for maturity. Thinkingabout May 2016 #2
Also Ash_F May 2016 #3
Try this: elleng May 2016 #4
THANKS FOR THAT! MrMickeysMom May 2016 #15
Was posted here, elleng May 2016 #23
^^THank you for this! nt silvershadow May 2016 #21
HI! elleng May 2016 #22
What is very telling Txbluedog May 2016 #6
you might want to read your own post. Then look in the mirror litlbilly May 2016 #7
Who gives a shit what you "welcome"? whatchamacallit May 2016 #8
Oh crap, are you going to start yelling at us how you're winning? .99center May 2016 #9
That is a two-way street. Civility has not been shown by many Hillary supporters either One Black Sheep May 2016 #10
Using transference to make us look violent. I reject this line of reasoning (but it was clever). DisgustipatedinCA May 2016 #11
The American people will not take having their democracy taken away lightly. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #12
If Benie had tens of millions of supporters Txbluedog May 2016 #13
Welcome to my ignore list. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #14
Time to take to the streets GulfCoast66 May 2016 #19
enjoy your trip to my ignore list. liberal_at_heart May 2016 #24
Finally! GulfCoast66 May 2016 #27
Some of us see the soul of the Democratic Party being sold to Goldman-Sachs. rhett o rick May 2016 #16
rhett, America is not ready for a third party, you know that! akbacchus_BC May 2016 #18
lol! zappaman May 2016 #32
Am curious, are Bernie supporters so annoying? Where may I ask? I see both sides akbacchus_BC May 2016 #17
You're posting this in the wrong discussion board, no one here doing anything of the kind. 2banon May 2016 #20
Seems to me that death threats would result in arrests. MelungeonWoman May 2016 #25
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." AgerolanAmerican May 2016 #26
what the party did caused rage, so I am not surprised larkrake May 2016 #29
If you checked the uploaded voice mail .99center May 2016 #30
Fraud and corruption deserves no civility demwing May 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #34
There are many many death threats being investigated.. Tavarious Jackson May 2016 #35
This Sanders supporter LWolf May 2016 #36

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
15. THANKS FOR THAT!
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:31 AM
May 2016

I have seen two raw videos of this convention, and what Nina Turner and other party leaders who were there have well described.

I knew better than to fall over with round heels on that phony story about Turner getting the push-back. There was no such thing.

Boxer, who didn't even stay, went up to the podium out of order, disrespected party attendees and voters, LEFT, while Turner and Florez calmed everyone down.

And there was good reason to be mad. You can't get away with putting together such a poorly planned convention where people trying to get in had to walk long distances from the Paris, which resulted in 60 to 70 people who were part of this process in being turned away for a result of national delegates that carried by 30 votes!

Party chairs to this thing weren't fair. They were all Clinton delegates. The voice vote wasn't fair. The "nay"s CLEARLY had it. These unfair actions were even pointed out by other Clinton delegates.

What a charade. That chair ought to get the boot.

Not going to take this unfair stuff any more!

 

Txbluedog

(1,128 posts)
6. What is very telling
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:53 PM
May 2016

About this is the absolute silence of Sanders himself and his top campaign surrogates

One Black Sheep

(458 posts)
10. That is a two-way street. Civility has not been shown by many Hillary supporters either
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

some have shown civility, but many others seem to be baiting the Sanders supporters, and rubbing in their anticipated victory, like salt in a wound. Just my opinion from reading threads here.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
12. The American people will not take having their democracy taken away lightly.
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:59 PM
May 2016

When I think of Revolutions I look to people like MLK Jr. or Ghandi. You can have a peaceful and yet very powerful and very successful non violent revolution. When tens of millions of Americans march in the streets they will have to take notice. I'm thinking about taking a bus or a train out to Philadelphia for the convention. I think a lot of Bernie supporters are probably thinking about doing the same thing. They think they can just take our democracy without any consequences. They are wrong.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
19. Time to take to the streets
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:47 AM
May 2016

Since you can't actually win the election. That's pretty much what you're saying. And after the next several states vote it will be more apparent.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. Finally!
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:21 AM
May 2016

I was wondering what it took to get ignored around this place. As far as I tell this is my first time on an ignore list.

Who knew it was as simple as disagreeing with someone. If someone takes offense this easily, then they should just talk to themselves.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. Some of us see the soul of the Democratic Party being sold to Goldman-Sachs.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:37 AM
May 2016

We see this primary as a do or die to try to get our Party back from the very Rich and Powerful that passed Citizens United that we all were against until Hillary. Now the Hillary camp embrace Citizens United, Fracking, NAFTA and TPP and TTIP, Prisons For Profits, the Corp-Media, etc. And we have to fight for the soul of our Party, the Party of the People not Goldman-Sachs.

Those of you that support corporatism, get out of our Party, find your own Party.

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
18. rhett, America is not ready for a third party, you know that!
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:46 AM
May 2016

I wished Mr. O'Malley got some traction, his ideology are very similar to Mr. Sanders. I like Bernie but we all know he will not get the nomination, very sad, but it is what it is!

akbacchus_BC

(5,704 posts)
17. Am curious, are Bernie supporters so annoying? Where may I ask? I see both sides
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:43 AM
May 2016

getting upbeat but not disrespectful!

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
20. You're posting this in the wrong discussion board, no one here doing anything of the kind.
Tue May 17, 2016, 12:48 AM
May 2016

give us break. sheesh.

MelungeonWoman

(502 posts)
25. Seems to me that death threats would result in arrests.
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:16 AM
May 2016

Any arrests yet? Any investigations? Anything?
I mean, after all, she is a United States Senator.


I heard about a guy who was arrested for punching Bernie supporters.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
26. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:19 AM
May 2016

- John F. Kennedy

If Clinton supporters can't get on board in support of "free and fair elections", then there is no "civil" to be had.

The fraud is obvious, it is extreme, and anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see it.

If you are Democrats and you support democracy then you must condemn this travesty of a primary process.

 

larkrake

(1,674 posts)
29. what the party did caused rage, so I am not surprised
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:26 AM
May 2016

I wont vote for Hillary, but I dont worry either . She wont get anything done, neither will Trump She will cave and become Repub lite, he will be sidelined. It is congress we need to focus on, to stop the regression. Passion can lead to bad language, Just chill out and vote a strong down ticket

.99center

(1,237 posts)
30. If you checked the uploaded voice mail
Tue May 17, 2016, 01:27 AM
May 2016

Then you're aware that a phone number of a private citizen was posted here by one of Hillary supporters for the intent of harassment.

This is not civil

"Wendell Pierce, Actor From ‘The Wire,’ Arrested in Altercation Over Politics"

"The actor then began to push her, Ms. Baca told the police, and as she and her friends walked away to their room, Mr. Pierce followed them and tried to force his way in. In the tussle, Ms. Baca said, Mr. Pierce “began to hit her in the head and grab her hoodie, ripping the hood off.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/17/us/wendell-pierce-actor-from-the-wire-arrested-in-altercation.html

This not civil

"boo yourselves out of this election.We have the votes, we have the voice, we have victory! Yay! Let's hear it for Hillary Clinton!"
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This not civil

"Bill Clinton: Sanders fans would ‘shoot every third person on Wall Street"
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/276542-bill-clinton-sanders-fans-would-shoot-every-third-person

This is not civil

Go demand civility from the Democratic establishment, before they cause you guy's to hurt someone else.
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
33. Fraud and corruption deserves no civility
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:14 AM
May 2016

Revolution is building, I hope it will be peaceful, but Hillary and Trump seem hell-bent on averting peace.

Response to hertopos (Original post)

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
35. There are many many death threats being investigated..
Tue May 17, 2016, 03:31 AM
May 2016


If you look at her facebook she clearly calls for violence.

https://www.facebook.com/linda.dupree

She is not the only one. I think people should take these threats seriously and have a video convention in Philly.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
36. This Sanders supporter
Tue May 17, 2016, 08:40 AM
May 2016

has a return request:

Please do not be part of the effort to spread this propaganda mischaracterizing the Sanders campaign and Sanders supporters.

Do be aware that every further attempt on the part of party leadership to silence the large number of Democrats who: 1. Are currently supporting Sanders, and 2. Have never supported the neo-liberal takeover of the party, can only move the Party further and further away from a win in November. Do not attempt to minimize the honest anger against the party establishment; it only feeds that anger.

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