Bernie supporters revive archaic gender attitudes

[SecularMotion]

America is at a turning point when it comes to feminism. The wage gap for women is slowly closing and there are more and more options in California for paid family leave. There are still those who believe that women’s rights is a battle that ended in 1920 when women won the right to vote.

Sorry to break it to you, but the battle is far from over. A number of Democratic voters who pride themselves on being progressives continue to distrust Hillary Clinton solely based on her gender. This misogyny in millennial males has manifested itself in a group called the Bernie Bros.

Bernie Bros are young, typically heterosexual white men who have developed an idea that only a man can possibly fill the shoes of the male presidents of the past. Rather than focus on issues of the election, these young people have begun a series of attacks on Hillary Clinton’s gender incapabilities.

The Atlantic describes Bernie Bros as “white; well-educated; middle-class (or, delicately, “upper middle-class”); and aware of NPR podcasts and jangly bearded bands,” among other descriptions of these Bernie supporters.

http://goldengatexpress.org/2016/05/10/bernie-supporters-revive-archaic-gender-attitudes/

[virtualobserver]

1. this horseshit is growing tiresome

[liberalmike27]

25. The Biggest Lie

In the Hillary campaign has been how everything we dislike in Hillary is because of her gender. It just isn't true. Sanders, and his supporters fully support abortion rights, equal pay, and all woman's rights, all other social issues, just like the Third Way Democrats.

We also support more economic equality, which Hillary does not.

[pdsimdars]

31. Clinton Foundation pays women 26 cents on the dollar less than men. (I think I remember that right)

But in any case, SHE pays women LESS.

[reformist2]

30. OPs like this one indicate Bernie is eroding Hillary's base - middle/upper class women.

[Fawke Em]

45. I'm a middle aged, middle class woman and I wouldn't vote for Hillary

if she paid me. And neither would my mother who is a retired middle class woman.

[riversedge]

37. The OP is from a Sanders fan--published in CA....

http://goldengatexpress.org/2016/05/10/bernie-supporters-revive-archaic-gender-attitudes/

...........When Hillary Clinton was attending college in the late 1960s, there were 12 women in the United States Congress, according to the Congressional Research Service. The environment in which Hillary Clinton grew up in provided no clear path for her achievements.

If Hillary Clinton were a man, there would be no competition between her and Senator Sanders. The Bernie Bros be more supportive of her and no Republican would stand a chance.

As a Bernie Sanders supporter myself, I can name a number of real issues that are driving me to vote for Sanders over Clinton. A few examples include his strong approach to shifting the American market to a clean power market to create new jobs, like most Western European countries have already done, and his real solutions to solving the education through increased taxation and increased reward. A Sanders presidency to me means America will be able to keep up with the rest of the developed nations on its policies for its people. If I could get behind a female candidate and support her term, I would. But Hillary Clinton’s gender should not be a factor in not voting for her.

It would be naive to say that gender is not a factor in the presidential race. But at least as liberal voters, we should be able to agree that a woman is capable of doing the same job as a man............

[Fawke Em]

47. Not really.

Most Bernie supporters know that the Bernie Bro meme is wrong.

BTW, found her on social media. There's no evidence she's an avid Bernie supporter. She may vote for him, but she's not what I'd term a "supporter." Obviously she's never volunteered or she'd know her "Bernie Bro" premise is flat out wrong.

[AgingAmerican]

2. More mindless tripe

At 2 cents a word...

[me b zola]

3. Could this bullshit be any more lame?

This granny wants this particular line of shit to fuck the hell off.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

5. Yep, as long as you vote for the nominee in November, i dont care if you are a man, woman

gazelle or cheetah.

[me b zola]

6. This free mother fucker will vote for who ever the hell I want to in November

Elephant.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

8. And when you flip me off, as you did, I think you should be banned from here...But I am sure

nobody will mind since I am a Bernie supporter who doesnt wish Drumpf wins if Bernie loses.

[me b zola]

12. Banned? GTFOOH

And WTH with attributing thoughts to me that I have never said? I don't want Trump to win, but whatever fits your little world view...

[hobbit709]

15. Another newbie alleged Hillary supporter

[Fawke Em]

48. How is saying "elephant" flipping you off?

[YoungDemCA]

9. Suit yourself

Since you clearly have the luxury of not being negatively affected by a Trump win.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

10. WE know who they are , dont we. We have to work that much harder, some of them are DYING

for a Drumpf victory so they can blame black people.

[me b zola]

19. Ridiculous lies and not so subtle inuendos

A pox upon you

[Fawke Em]

49. WTF?

Blame black people?

Where on earth did you get that crazy idea?

If Hillary loses, the blame is on her and the crooked DNC minions that thumb-scaled and greased her way into the nomination knowing she was a weak candidate under criminal investigation.

Sure, the DNC will try to blame Bernie supporters, but the fault doesn't lie with us or black people. It's lies with Hillary.

[me b zola]

13. Are you kidding me?

I am going to be negatively affected by either Trump or Hillary winning. I need health care desperately. Not fucking insurance, but health care. If I had enough money I would expatriate to a country that has health care.

I care about this election not just about me, but about my four grandchildren who need to have basic services and a chance at a decent life. Don't lecture me about what you think I need or don't need./

[Jackie Wilson Said]

20. You cant possibly believe (assuming you are not here with an agenda) that your grandkids

will have it the same regardless of Hillary vs Drumpf, you cant.

[me b zola]

21. GTFOOH with your insinuations

You are a nasty piece of work and should keep your mouth off of me.

[Phlem]

40. The Republicans are coming! The Republicans are coming!

Oh wait, the Dems have moved to the right.........Fuck.

I'm with you me b zola, They've used the "Do you want a Republican as President" excuse for fucking ever.

Every fucking election we hear this yet the Thirdway DNC will install whomever they want and have.

We install leaders in other countries, what makes the U.S. any different. With all the voting shenanigans we have witnessed, we still believe our electoral system produces fair results.

I have voted Dem all my fucking life and have absolutely nothing to show for it. I've never fully recovered from Nafta and now I'm supposed to vote for NAFTA version 2?

The newbies are so lost, yet they speak with ALL the authority.

[Fawke Em]

50. Yes, we do.

Both are rich people working for rich people.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

55. So you do ADMIT that in your mind Hillary and Drumpf are the same...You couldnt be

more wrong, but this is not a place for people who think like that, it really isnt and this has NOTHING to do with Bernie.

Am I the only one who comes here to only talk to liberals?

[CanadaexPat]

23. And you clearly have the luxury of not living

in a country Hillary will bomb.

[Fawke Em]

51. BINGO!

[liberalmike27]

26. When you're on the ground

Standing there, looking up at the two very tall buildings of the Democratic and Republican Party, it's hard to tell which one is taller. They both look about the same.

I guess the middle class people, you know the $250,000 a year folks Hillary talks about, are high enough up to see the difference between the parties. Most of us down here on the ground, that are actually affected by globalization, low minimum wages, poor trade policies, and helping Republicans slice policies that benefit the poorest? Well both parties look pretty much the same, to us.

[lumberjack_jeff]

16. No. Lameness is their specialty, the Clinton campaign has no peer. n/t

[WhiteTara]

4. under the bus with you!

[hobbit709]

7. What a load of caca del toro.

[seabeyond]

11. What I saw from start of Sanders campaing. It was the tell that had me doing further research. Nt

[Gavile]

24. Please post just a single link

Of any Bernie supporter saying anything remotely like that.

[seabeyond]

36. I do not get what your post has to do with my reply. Early on, I saw the archaic mentality.

[Gavile]

39. Where though? I never saw it

Or hear a Bernie supporter saying we'd be better off with a male candidate just because.

[seabeyond]

42. We have had a lot of conversation over the last 8 months. I really do not put a lot of

significance with the supporters, thought the ones I saw gathered toward Sanders was another tell for me to do my research. But, Sanders himself with his dismissal of women and our issues. There have been quite a few incidences for me, but to start was one with PP. When the right was attacking PP, Sanders handled it horribly I felt. I had conversation back then. At work now and not gonna go thru it all. But instances like that. Dismissing PP as an "establishment" when they support Clinton. All male staff, and other issues like talking to Repugs to try for their voting, stating women's issues are wedge issue and put them to the side.

[Armstead]

14. Yes everyone who supports Sanders is a white male sexist pig

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[lumberjack_jeff]

17. Like these Bernie Bros?

https://www.facebook.com/IndianCountryTodayMediaNetwork/posts/10154192289502431

[SecularMotion]

33. No, more like these Bernie Bros

[Exilednight]

18. ugh.... that's two minutes of my life I will never get back. I actually feel

Ashamed that I gave that site a click.

[Eric J in MN]

22. Someone could re-write this essay

...to argue that Clinton supporters are anti-semitic.

The new essay would be just as valid or bogus as the original.

[Moose_Jaw]

27. "jangly bearded bands"

Well, Phish is from Vermont. :-D

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. Oh, bullshit.

Most of the Sanders supporters I know are old women like me. This canard is getting really tiresome.

[Fawke Em]

52. I'm surprised we haven't been referred to as groupies.

Hell, if Gloria Steinem can allege that Millennial women are following Bernie because that's where Millennial men are, maybe she thinks us older women are after Bernie's bod or something.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

53. Oh, but we have, according to The Google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bernie+groupie&oq=bernie+groupie&aqs=chrome..69i57.4006j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[pdsimdars]

29. Clinton supporters reviving Rovian smear tactics. . . .

But, when you have no reason to run other than that you want to win, what else can you do?





If the shoe fits. . . . .

[LexVegas]

32. Spot on. nt

[closeupready]

34. Reads like a high school newspaper editorial.

[Hiraeth]

35. Standing with Nina and Bernie: I want my whole damn dollar.

One Black Woman and One White Jewish Man.

[B2G]

38. These fools are so transparent

They insist women be treated as equals in every way except when it comes to criticizing them for legitimate reasons.

Then it becomes shrieks of misogyny!!

Which is it? She's either a capable politician who is able to withstand of the same scrutiny and policy questions like everyone else, or a delicate little flower that can't be questioned because she is of the 'fairer sex'.

You know, this really sounds a lot like Liberals who claim racism at even the tiniest criticism of Obama.

[pmorlan1]

41. Hillary Campaign Propaganda

As a baby boomer woman and a long time feminist I can tell you right now that there are more sexist male baby boomers than there are sexist male millennials. Instead of recognizing that fact and celebrating the progress that has been made the Hillary campaign is trying to destroy that progress merely to elect her. This tactic and the race baiting by her campaign will be long remembered by a lot of us Sanders Democrats. This cynical campaign tactic is doing nothing but burning bridges. The Hillary campaign is the most dishonorable Democratic primary campaign I've ever seen and I've seen a lot of them.

[BillZBubb]

43. More BULLSHIT. You've just won a spot on my ignore list.

[SecularMotion]

46. Thank you

[Fawke Em]

44. That entire article is bullshit.

When you start with an incorrect premise (that fucking idiotic Bernie Bro shit again), the rest of your piece has to suck.

[drm604]

54. Why even bother with this nonsense at this point?

Hillary is going to be the nominee. Sanders is not. You've got your way. What's the point of continuing to post this slanderous nonsense?

[Cheese Sandwich]

56. To send a message: Challenge the leaders and you'll pay a price.

It may also be that once they set their smear machine in motion they can't just flip it off right away.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

57. Voting against or for a woman because of her gender is sexist.