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Karmadillo

(9,253 posts)
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:11 PM May 2016

Clinton Does Best Where Voting Machines Flunk Hacking Tests

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05/16/clinton-does-best-where-voting-machines-flunk-hacking-tests-hillary-clinton-vs-bernie-sanders-election-fraud-allegations/

MAY 16, 2016
Clinton Does Best Where Voting Machines Flunk Hacking Tests: Hillary Clinton vs. Bernie Sanders Election Fraud Allegations
by DOUG JOHNSON HATLEM

At the end of the climactic scene (8 minutes) in HBO’s Emmy nominated Hacking Democracy (2006), a Leon County, Florida Election official breaks down in tears. “There are people out there who are giving their lives just to try to make our elections secure,” she says. “And these vendors are lying and saying everything is alright.” Hundreds of jurisdictions throughout the United States are using voting machines or vote tabulators that have flunked security tests. Those jurisdictions by and large are where former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is substantially outperforming the first full wave of exit polling in her contest against Senator Bernie Sanders.

CounterPunch has interviewed hackers, academics, exit pollsters, and elections officials and workers in multiple states for this series taking election fraud allegations seriously. The tearful breakdown in Hacking Democracy is not surprising. There is a well-beyond remarkable gap between what security experts and academics say about the vulnerability of voting machines and the confidence elections experts and academics, media outlets, and elections officials place in those same machines.

In Leon County, Bev Harris’ Black Box Voting team had just demonstrated a simple hack of an AccuVote tabulator for bubble-marked paper ballots. Ion Sancho, Leon County’s Supervisor of Elections, also fights back tears in the Hacking Democracy clip: “I would have certified this election as a true and accurate result of a vote.” Sancho adds, “The vendors are driving the process of voting technology in the United States.”

In 2010, and this reminder will pain those of you who can remember when Nate Silver’s outfit did real data journalism rather than primarily yay-Clinton boo-Trump punditry, a FiveThirtyEight column argued that hacking was one of two possibilities for statistical anomalies in a Democratic Senate primary in South Carolina: “B. Somebody with access to software and machines engineered a very devious manipulation of the vote returns.”

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Clinton Does Best Where Voting Machines Flunk Hacking Tests (Original Post) Karmadillo May 2016 OP
FFS, you people are scraping at the bottom of the barrel n/t SFnomad May 2016 #1
so how much fraud was committed to help sanders win? nt msongs May 2016 #2
More counerpunch smears on Hillary from Sanders fans! Shameful hits on a Democratic riversedge May 2016 #3
Look At The Nevada FRAUD This Weekend- In Full View. Imagine What Happens Behind Closed Doors... AzDar May 2016 #4
Sanders does best where there is an overwhelming majority of white people. nt LexVegas May 2016 #5
So the next question should be NWCorona May 2016 #6
Cheating isn't winning. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #7
" vote tabulating machine tampering" Ferd Berfel May 2016 #9
Exactly. It's fixed. That is the big fact to know Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #10
Man you miss the point Ferd Berfel May 2016 #12
And Wall St. paid for her! Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #13
well yea, dont' they get a return on their investment? Ferd Berfel May 2016 #14
A picture is emerging, of systematic fraud through tampering with voter registration records. reformist2 May 2016 #17
This website has become intolerable for a democrat. IHateTheGOP May 2016 #8
Bernie polls best where his supporters flunk math. nt oasis May 2016 #11
Polling is done by independent polling organizations. pdsimdars May 2016 #16
That picture's worth a thousand words, but not worth 3 million votes. oasis May 2016 #18
Hmmmm. . . what a co-incidence. . . . . . pdsimdars May 2016 #15

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
7. Cheating isn't winning.
Mon May 16, 2016, 05:14 PM
May 2016

The bottom line from the OP article, which is very in-depth and interesting:

Of the theories we have so far for why exit polling missed in Alabama by a huge 14%, the only theory that provides a reasonable explanation is vote tabulating machine tampering. Now, perhaps someone else will come up with a non-fraudulent exit polling miss theory that passes the Alabama Test and explains other states as well. Such a theory cannot be about early voting (Alabama had none) and over-projecting young voters (there were very few according to exit polls of Alabama).

Until someone comes up with such a workable theory, election fraud benefiting Hillary Clinton to the tune of a 120 to 150 pledged delegate difference, is the best explanation we have. People wanting to prove this theory should be suing for a technologically sophisticated and independent review of results and the voting results’ entire computer ecosystems in places like Ohio, South Carolina, Alabama, Boston, Chicago, New York, and many others.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511971681#post21

https://electionfraud2016.wordpress.com/

"She won" = bullshit.

"It's math" = bullshit.

"More votes" = bullshit

That's all she's got.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
9. " vote tabulating machine tampering"
Mon May 16, 2016, 05:19 PM
May 2016

this explains why the Dem 'leadership" and DNC have never tried to fix this problem since 2004. In fact they sweep it under with bullshit

They get to use it too. It's party neutral. It's who makes the better deal with the Corporate elite now



Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
10. Exactly. It's fixed. That is the big fact to know
Mon May 16, 2016, 05:32 PM
May 2016

and we weren't supposed to find out. That's why they're getting anxious.


Hillary cannot be presumed the winner:

1) She shouldn't have been allowed to run with an active FBI investigation open; that is conning people into voting for her who would not if they knew the facts of the matter.

2) She cheated through the whole primary, which in any competition is a disqualifier.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
16. Polling is done by independent polling organizations.
Mon May 16, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

I'd say the most OBVIOUS "polls" are Bernie's rallys. Day after day, state after state. . . . look at those people. And he posts some of them only 4-5 hours before they happen.
Maybe it's that Hillary does best where her supporters are blind.




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oasis

(49,388 posts)
18. That picture's worth a thousand words, but not worth 3 million votes.
Mon May 16, 2016, 10:43 PM
May 2016
I'll take my chances with the candidate who has a higher turnout on Election Day.
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