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So who counts the votes in Oregon? (Original Post) Skwmom May 2016 OP
hmmm ducks or beavers??!! oldandhappy May 2016 #1
Probably Hillary herself WhiteTara May 2016 #2
I am so tired of this whiney shit, because they have lost. Such poor sportsmanship. I would be seabeyond May 2016 #6
YOU ARE Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo GOP trueblue2007 May 2016 #18
that post is soooooooooooooooo weird. WhiteTara May 2016 #22
My sense of humor is Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn !!! trueblue2007 May 2016 #24
If you say soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo WhiteTara May 2016 #25
Yes, I do. trueblue2007 May 2016 #34
hillary and bill will personally count all the votes in a locked room in the dead of night nt msongs May 2016 #3
Good question. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #4
I am sure tired of a miscontent walking into our party, and pumping people to accuse Dems of theft. seabeyond May 2016 #5
Must suck that this so-called "misonctent" has garnerd far more enthusiasm Fawke Em May 2016 #30
Sigh... ya shit like this. Almost a 1000 more delegates and over 3 million more vote. I disagree. seabeyond May 2016 #32
Im in oregon and sent in our votes weeks ago. I have no idea who counts or how its done. Fingers litlbilly May 2016 #7
Did you send your ballot to your county, or the state? Brother Buzz May 2016 #9
Im not sure, I think they all go to the same address. litlbilly May 2016 #14
Im Washington county so I guess thats where it went. This is my first primary ever so I didnt even litlbilly May 2016 #17
Do you vote in local elections? WhiteTara May 2016 #23
Votes are all counted on election day at county Elections Offices. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #8
at my County elections office LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #12
Who controls access to the ballots until that point in time? Skwmom May 2016 #21
All 36 counties in Oregon have an elections official LoverOfLiberty May 2016 #10
Clinton does. She deletes all Bernie votes. LexVegas May 2016 #11
Your whining is sooooooooooooooo un-attractive. trueblue2007 May 2016 #19
Getting an early start on the excuse-building? Tarc May 2016 #13
The conspiracy does. You are dooooooomed. YouDig May 2016 #15
DUH .................... The Secretary of State trueblue2007 May 2016 #16
I do. NuclearDem May 2016 #20
:-) riversedge May 2016 #27
Why not do some research and find out instead of posting provacative posts meant riversedge May 2016 #26
I found a manual online but it still left A LOT of unanswered questions. Skwmom May 2016 #28
Actually no one does Jeb! Will finally win a primary 😄 Txbluedog May 2016 #29
Hillary and Chelsea CreekDog May 2016 #31
Already laying the groundwork for accusations of voter disenfranchisement tomorrow, eh? auntpurl May 2016 #33
If Bernie wins, honest Americans are counting the votes MadBadger May 2016 #35
I've worked the GE a couple of times in the past penumbra May 2016 #36
They take them and use them to stuff the couch cushions at Goldman. Starry Messenger May 2016 #37
i believe the central tabulators are ESS, if that's your question 0rganism May 2016 #38
Maybe the mailman. CK_John May 2016 #39
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. I am so tired of this whiney shit, because they have lost. Such poor sportsmanship. I would be
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:53 PM
May 2016

embarrassed to be on that team.

trueblue2007

(17,223 posts)
18. YOU ARE Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo GOP
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:25 PM
May 2016

stop lying. Hillary Clinton DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING to do with the OR election anymore than Bernie had to do with Vermont.
. NO

i am posting the truth.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. I am sure tired of a miscontent walking into our party, and pumping people to accuse Dems of theft.
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

We have NEVER had to deal with some asshole politician accuse other Dems of theft, just because his ass lost.

But, in walks Sanders, that had done nothing but cause chaos in our party, while using the resources of the party, all the while fabricating false accusations of theft, so the rest of us Dems get to hear the whiners yelling about losing ONLY because it is being stolen. Though any suppression has been in the areas where Clinton wins hands down.

We get the suppression is out there. We get that it has taken votes away from Clinton. We too want something done about the RW theft. And here we are not whining every time Clinton has a loss that Sanders stole.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
30. Must suck that this so-called "misonctent" has garnerd far more enthusiasm
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:46 AM
May 2016

than you tired washed up candidate who offers absolutely nothing new and is only winning by collusion of the DNC and the media.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
32. Sigh... ya shit like this. Almost a 1000 more delegates and over 3 million more vote. I disagree.
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016
 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
7. Im in oregon and sent in our votes weeks ago. I have no idea who counts or how its done. Fingers
Mon May 16, 2016, 03:56 PM
May 2016

crossed

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
9. Did you send your ballot to your county, or the state?
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016

I can't address Oregon, but all the tallying is done at the county level in my state. Our county Registrar of Voters, an elected official, oversees the counting.

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
17. Im Washington county so I guess thats where it went. This is my first primary ever so I didnt even
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

look to see where it goes. Been voting since 1972 and its my first primary Same thing with my wife.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
8. Votes are all counted on election day at county Elections Offices.
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:03 PM
May 2016

That is to say, by government officials, even for primary election...no party involvement. No ballots are counted in advance...all counting is done on election day. I don't know what oversight exists at those offices.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
12. at my County elections office
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:20 PM
May 2016

(Multnoamh) there are party observers and citizens who provide oversight to the ballot counting. The process is pretty transparent.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
21. Who controls access to the ballots until that point in time?
Mon May 16, 2016, 05:07 PM
May 2016

There are so many ways to manipulate a vote.

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
10. All 36 counties in Oregon have an elections official
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:19 PM
May 2016

who is responsible for reporting to the Secretary of State.

I wouldn't worry too much about Oregon's election system, but if you are more interested, you can read the elections laws here.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
13. Getting an early start on the excuse-building?
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

If Bernie doesn't hit...what's his target percentage now, 66%?

trueblue2007

(17,223 posts)
16. DUH .................... The Secretary of State
Mon May 16, 2016, 04:23 PM
May 2016

Any OREGONIAN would know the answer that the Secretary of State oversees the election just like in EVERY OTHER STATE.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
26. Why not do some research and find out instead of posting provacative posts meant
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:32 AM
May 2016

only to rile up people???

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
33. Already laying the groundwork for accusations of voter disenfranchisement tomorrow, eh?
Tue May 17, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

Be prepared!

MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
35. If Bernie wins, honest Americans are counting the votes
Tue May 17, 2016, 02:35 PM
May 2016

if Hillary wins, Bill and Hillary counted themselves.

And David Brock


penumbra

(7 posts)
36. I've worked the GE a couple of times in the past
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:02 PM
May 2016

The primary shouldn't be different.

There is a chain of custody from the precincts to the county Elections office to the State Elections Office in Portland, where the ballots are counted. The ballots are usually brought to the main office in police transport with two officers, often a Sheriff and a Deputy. The ballots are boxed and sealed when they come into the Elections office (this happens at the precincts). The boxed ballots are tracked from there for processing. The seals are broken and seen by all in the boards as a hand count is done. That sheet accompanies the ballots to the tabulation area, which is set aside but walled, windowed and observable. After electronic tabulation, the ballots are reboxed, tracked and sent to secure storage. I am not sure how long they store the ballots after the vote.

All stages of the area, while separate are observable and, indeed, there are usually three people or many more attending the movement and handling of the ballots. If you make arrangements in advance, most voters could participate in the count process or be observers. I really wish they would, too -- It gives you a great appreciation for the poll workers. It would decrease the amount of needless speculation that occurs so we could focus on any true election irregularities. They do happen. But the signal-to-noise ratio can be high when folks don't know the process for their specific state and try to make generalities.

I am not saying that a vote here can't be hacked. That said, when I worked it was a very tough election (George W's second campaign) and there were no instances of any unethical behavior on the part of any poll worker or supervisor in this office. I was in a position to watch for that, too. Now, the crew has changed, but if they use the same judgement they did in choosing their election workers as they did then, they are hard-working supporters of little "d" democracy and a credit to our process.

0rganism

(23,955 posts)
38. i believe the central tabulators are ESS, if that's your question
Tue May 17, 2016, 05:16 PM
May 2016

overall i'm pretty satisfied with OR voting -- we have more than a week to fill out our optical-scan paper ballots, we can mail them in or drop them off at various public sites, every ballot envelope has to have a signature on it that matches registration to be counted.

last election (2015 municipal bond measures, i think), my wife's signature didn't match what was on her registration (she's got kind of a random sig); we were contacted directly by someone from the SoS office to confirm that the ballot was hers, although it was too late to be counted iirc.

i wouldn't worry overmuch about Oregon's voting integrity; we have excellent turnout (some of the highest nationwide) and our system isn't any less secure than other states'.

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