Is Hillary becoming *Gore 2000*?

[Cosmic Kitten]

What if Hillary gets the nomination
but fails to inspire voters?!?!

Will she become a lackluster
candidate who spews uninspiring
campaign rhetoric, creating a yuuuge
collective yawn, and gets destroyed
by her opponent?

The Democratic party cannot afford
another out of touch, stiff, speechifier
who cannot win an election by yuuuuge margins.

Hillary resides in a protective
political bubble, as did Gore.

Will Hillary be our Gore 2016?

[onehandle]

1. Only if our Nader continues to provide ad materials for the GOP...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511972789

[NCTraveler]

9. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

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I gotta say, in this instance, I doubt you are very flattered. lol.

[Human101948]

30. Emanation is the sincerest form of fartery...

Geez, that one stinks!

[Loudestlib]

53. Nader ran in the GE...........

Are you suggesting that Bernie should run in the GE as an independent? Gore didn't get enough votes to win. That's Gore's fault. If Hillary can't get enough votes it will be Hillary's fault. If you want to win the GE you should have picked a candidate that could win more votes in the GE.

[Android3.14]

2. More like Captain Bunnypants Redux.

No one expects her to have a legitimate win in the general, especially after such a travesty of democracy from this primary.

[Fuddnik]

3. Nah, she's Nixon 1973

"I am not a crook".

[Cosmic Kitten]

4. Wooooo! Didn't see that coming!

[NCTraveler]

5. Gore won. Clinton would not have backed down from that fight.

Fuck Nader.

[Cosmic Kitten]

8. Gore won? So that's what happened!

Yes, I remember president Gore!

[NCTraveler]

14. I'm actually with you that he gave up and lost, when he should have fought.

The evidence is clear, Gore won the election and then folded.

Seems you would have been able to make the connection with the sentence that followed "Gore won". Sometimes I give people too much credit.

[Cosmic Kitten]

18. THE WHOLE PARTY GAVE UP AND LOST

and has LOST on EVERY level
since then.

[NCTraveler]

20. The whole party didn't give up and lose.

Why is it that when people are really wrong they type in caps. Many in the party wanted to fight like hell for that election. I understand why you missed that aspect. The CBC was front and center.

[imagine2015]

11. How so? She's not a fighter against the billionaire class and Wall Street.

So if Clinton captures the nomination via a rigged nominating system and Trump wins are you going to blame Bernie Sanders?

Nothing but excuses for Hillary, the former Senator from Wall Street.

[NCTraveler]

16. I can't make logical sense of your post. nt.

[timmymoff]

13. I didn't see either Clinton stand up for Gore

must've not had much fight in them.

[NCTraveler]

15. You should look at a little history if you are going to opine about it. nt.

[timmymoff]

17. yea, tell me how their fight panned out?

I've looked in history books and have yet to see a President Gore. Can you direct me to one please?

[NCTraveler]

23. The fight wasn't much of a fight as Gore was leading the way.

There was a great highlight though. We all got to see how much of a fucking moron Nader and the two parties are the same crowd really are. That was about all the good that came out of it. Highlighting those idiots.

[timmymoff]

24. i'm needing that history book with president gore please

[NCTraveler]

25. I have no clue what you are talking about now.

Bush stole the election. I thought the facts around that were well known. I stand corrected. Fuck Nader and the both parties are the same idiots. That really is the only thing positive that came out of it. Proof of their absolute stupidity.

[timmymoff]

29. # 17 will give you the answer you seek

you must've been pretty worked up to avoid reading such a short post.

[imagine2015]

6. No Gore actually won that election. Trump will leave Hillary in the dust if she is nominated.

[Cosmic Kitten]

12. Gore won? WTF? Pretty sure Bush was president?

And yes, Trump will stomp her into dust!

The DNC/DWS are getting good
at turning voters off.

[Herman4747]

26. Al Gore won. Then the US Supreme Court stole the election...

...by stopping the counting of uncounted votes.

[Seeinghope]

28. He was appointed! Big difference. When the Supreme Court steps in And stops the counting of

the ballots that is called an "appointment". Gore won the popular vote. If you were to take Florida and split the electoral votes in half, Gore wold have won. The only way that Bush could be President of the United States would be if the counting of the votes could be stopped.....and they were.

It was later confirmed that Gore would have "won" the election.

[One Black Sheep]

7. Hillary is about as inspiring as a lump of coal

in a stocking at Christmas time...no wonder all the young people vote for Bernie, and shun Hillary like the plague.

[Cosmic Kitten]

10. Yep!

[Arugula Latte]

21. "Stop asking for crazy things like affordable college, you brats!"

"Don't you know there are multinational corporations that need subsidizing?! Leave this to the grown ups. Oh, and you'd better stop being selfish and vote for me."

[intheflow]

19. Gore won, but I'd say Clinton is like Leiberman in that election.

The corporate Dem candidate hand picked by the DNC so the party wouldn't appear "too liberal". It was Leiberman on the ticket that siphoned so many people to vote Nader and make the vote close enough that the SCOTUS could give it to the Republicans.

[Cosmic Kitten]

22. Interesting thought.

The point is Gore was uninspiring
and could not capture a decisive victory.

Hillary would be a redux of Gore 2000

[pdsimdars]

27. Gore was brilliant, very far sighted.

[d_legendary1]

31. Boring, uninsightful, question dodger, poor decision maker, pro-war figure

I think you owe Al Gore an apology.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

32. From the looks of Nevada she's Bush 2000

[Betty Karlson]

33. No, if she gets the nomination, it is the end of the Democratic Party as we know it.

The damage this time would be along generational lines: the millennials will abandon the party.

[tandem5]

34. Nader on Gore: "there's no end to his betrayal... All I can see is this Pinocchio nose coming...

...He exudes a lack of credibility."

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/oct/21/local/me-40021

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. If the demographics remain the same as 00 HRC wins in a landslide.

[TwilightZone]

38. Agreed.

If anything, they're more favorable.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. The smart money has him a 3-1 dog.

Trump has confounded expectations before. I was wrong as were many when I discounted his chances in the GOP primary. However the general is different. If someone can show me how he can receive > 65% of the white vote I would like to see how.

The last CNN nat'l poll had him losing the non-white vote 81-15 !!! That is mind boggling.

[TwilightZone]

41. I never thought he'd be around this long...

but, as you noted, the primaries and the GE are two very different things. He's outdone expectations before, but this is the big dance.

I'm not sure there's any way to get the math to work for him if he loses 80% of the Latino vote, 90% of the black vote, and 55-60% of the female vote. Electorally, it looks just as bad.

While I'm ever-so-cautiously optimistic, I think there's a fairly decent chance that this is a massive blowout. A lot depends on GOTV and not getting complacent.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Gender is binary so if he loses women 60-40 he has to win men by a larger percentage as more...

Gender is binary so if he loses women 60-40 he has to win men by a larger percentage as more women vote than men.

Anything is possible. That's why oddsmakers make odds and people bet on them.

[TwilightZone]

37. Nah, Gore thought it was a good idea to not have a popular president campaign for him.

Hillary won't make the same mistake. President Obama is pretty clearly just waiting for her nomination to get involved.

Besides, Gore did pretty well - won the popular vote - considering how many of his fellow Dems badmouthed him all the time.

Hell, they're still badmouthing him.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. With 016 demographics Kerry, Dukakis!!!, and Gore are all winners!!!

In fact 84 would be a lot closer!!!

You are looking at an electorate that could possibly be 30-33% non white.

[Attorney in Texas]

42. Hillary is 40% Gore 2000, 10% Kerry 2004, and 50% Carter 1980.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

44. The Supreme Court could split on the issue.

Then the next president is chosen by the decision of the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals.

No problem there, right?

[lumberjack_jeff]

45. No. Unlike Gore, she'll get fewer votes than her opponent. n/t

[Cheese Sandwich]

46. The only thing that could possibly save her is that Trump is so horrible

She probably couldn't win against anybody normal.

[HereSince1628]

47. Does that make Trump a hanging Chad?

[JEB]

48. Lieberman would probably suit her.

[ViseGrip]

49. No because Gore actually won by 35K when Miami Herald counted all votes.

Hillary is going to L O S E.

[Tarc]

50. If a Sanders fan tweeted about an outrage but no one was around to read it...

...would it matter?

[Hiraeth]

52. Her choice of VEEP could cement this.

[BillZBubb]

54. Gore wasn't being investigated by the FBI.

Hillary will be Hillary.