Philadelphia will NOT be a repeat of Nevada.

[MineralMan]

That simply won't happen. By the time the convention gets underway, the delegates who are actually there to nominate a candidate for President will have been selected from among all of those folks in every state who have participated in conventions in those states. At each level, fewer and fewer people go to the next level.

In Philadelphia, the guy who called Senator Barbara Boxer a "bitch" will not be one of those delegates. In fact, the delegates will all be people of dignity and responsibility. It's very difficult to become a national convention delegate. For example, Nevada sends just 35 pledged delegates to the convention, along with eight unpledged superdelegates. That makes Nevada's delegation one of the smaller ones that will be there. Those 43 individuals will have been winnowed down from all those folks at the county and state conventions. Most will be recognized leaders in the Democratic Party organization, and there will also be those superdelegates, who are either Democratic elected officials or DNC members.

There won't be any shouting of "bitch" at anyone. There won't be any rushing down to the podium to yell and disrupt. That simply won't be tolerated. At the national convention, such behavior will lead to disqualification of that delegate and replacement by an alternate who will vote the same, but might be better behaved.

The agenda will be followed. Votes will be held. Rules will be adopted, as will the Party platform. A presidential nominee will be elected and then a vice-presidential nominee. Then, everyone will return to their states and we'll all be looking forward to the general election. The whole thing will be televised, too. We can all watch, if we have the time and inclination.

But, there will be no unruly, loud, ugly disruptions on the convention floor. At the National Convention, people who manage to be delegates there are civilized people. It will all go just fine. Hillary Clinton will win on the first ballot, since she will have the majority of pledged delegates and the superdelegates will vote with them.

No drama. No outrage. No disruption. We'll just select our party's nominee.

[aikoaiko]

1. LOL

[MineralMan]

4. Do you find that amusing?

Does it make you laugh?

[lostnfound]

55. +1

Sadly cheering the subversion of honest democratic process.

[onehandle]

2. Anyone online planning a 'floor insurrection' for the convention is a fool.

Not a chance this happens in the building.

[MineralMan]

3. Absolutely right.

The floor is going to be off-limits to disruptors. Just the thinning down of those who will be there from every state ensures that.

I think some people think they're going to go there and get inside the venue. I saw some people say they were going to get "tickets."

Funny stuff.

[WhiteTara]

7. It's virtually impossible to get into the convention

without credentials. Having been a delegate to the California convention, there may/will be protests outside but they won't make it to the floor.

[Trust Buster]

5. Violent behavior in Philadelphia will be met with plastic handcuffs and rides to jail.

The city of Philadelphia will be moving current inmates to the suburbs so that adequate space is available.

[MineralMan]

8. Given the concern about terrorism, you're absolutely

right. The area around the convention venue will be locked down tighter than ever before. The sheer number of law enforcement people in Philadelphia is going to be astounding to many people.

[Fawke Em]

9. Protesting isn't always violent

In fact, most Bernie supporter protests aren't violent.

[StarTrombone]

17. Most demonstrators in '68 Chicago weren't violent either

Until Major Daley and the Democrat big wigs decided that the optics weren't good and tried to move us back into the park

We couldn't get on the convention floor either

But someone did

Those aren't dirty hippies beating Rather

[timmymoff]

29. let's sing it together

In the land of the fees and the home of the caaaaaaaaaaaaaaged. yay wooohooooo yay more private prison money please.

[lostnfound]

56. It will be thematically correct with the kind of prison state that both Republicans want. Nt

[NCTraveler]

6. There might be a little outburst here and there. We are Democrats after all.

Overall you are right.

Winnowed? Definition doesn't fit but I did learn a new word today. Thank you.

The fun game will be if we can tell the protestors outside apart. I bet it's going to be more difficult than you might think.

[mmonk]

10. No, Chicago.

[MineralMan]

11. No, it won't be Chicago, either.

We learned that lesson, I'm sure. People who come there planning to disrupt are going to find very limited opportunities to do so.

[mmonk]

31. Those oblivious to the tide of history

that surrounds them will be swept away by it.

[mmonk]

66. No. A warning from history is not a threat. Usually it is a lesson.

[auntpurl]

12. I'm from Philadelphia.

Philly police and security services DO NOT play. There will be no violent scenes at the convention.

[MineralMan]

14. They'll be backed up with the FBI, TSA and Federal Marshals, too.

The PA State Police will also be assisting.

I think the situation will be well in hand.

[mmonk]

21. It will be an interesting display.

He who does not know history is doomed to repeat it.

[MineralMan]

23. Often, knowing history helps avoid repeats of it.

I think that'll be the case in Philadelphia, frankly.

[HumanityExperiment]

13. Lesson from '68 convention...

so easily forgotten by establishment DEM folks

this is the 'new narrative' establishment DEMs will posts/craft incessantly...

they just do NOT get it...

Do you really believe mass media would NOT LOVE to broadcast this slow motion train wreck coming at convention when neither candidate will have enough delegates at convention and SDs will need to come into play to push one or the other over the line?

WOW... either establishment DEMS are being willfully obtuse or blindly ignorant.. take your pick

[auntpurl]

16. Yes, the mass media would love to broadcast a train wreck.

Which is exactly why the party will not let it happen. Everyone is going to be holding hands and singing kumbaya including Senator Bernie Sanders when Hillary is nominated. You can bookmark this post and mock me later if I'm wrong.

[HumanityExperiment]

37. Establishment has no control...

The lesson wasn't learned... taking a page from current events

If you get this.. Philippine President-elect Rodrigo Duterte and Trump is GOP nominee and all the other crazy political events throughout the globe in terms of extreme shifts then 'the party will not let it happen' narrative isn't believable...

No need to 'mock' just point out the realities

Just take in all the posts from HRC and her supporters about NV alone... the establishment is rightly freaking out behind the scenes, trouble is they can't avoid their own situation that they've created... the rules, the SDs, the media... it's all coming to a head and they are powerless to stop it

[azurnoir]

15. That's what I hear because in Philly these guys do more than stand guard

sort of like they did in Chicago

[MineralMan]

19. Do you know who called in the Las Vegas Police?

It wan't the Nevada Democratic Party. The venue itself called them in to get those people out of their building once the convention was adjourned. The convention outstayed its welcome and needed to vacate the venue. I assume they did vacate peacefully.

[azurnoir]

22. Really it doesn't matter who called them in, they were there

[kiva]

34. Outstayed its welcome?

No, outstayed the rental time of the venue. Why? Incompetent planning.

[azurnoir]

41. No it's not it's a John Fitzgerald Kennedy quote

oh and welcome to DU you've been here 24 hours and you're going to tell me about my sig line -thanx

[azurnoir]

44. the only twisting it is you after 24 whole hrs of being a DUer

but somehow you seem to be quite familiar with us, whyever is that ?

[azurnoir]

46. am I am planning to what? how on Earth would I do that? your post makes little sense

[azurnoir]

48. this is your 4 accusation that I am inclined towards violence

and I am not in Nevada

[azurnoir]

51. There is no threat of violence in sig line it is a JFK quote

however if Trump were to become POTUS we might just see violent revolution

[azurnoir]

53. No would you?

[azurnoir]

57. you already stated your opinion remember? I need not add anything more as in my 10 years on DU

I have never advocated violence

Jezebel Jackson (33 posts)
52. You'd like that wouldn't you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1974335

[azurnoir]

62. is that the 4th or 5th time you've stated that as though it were fact

in the month it's been my sig line strangely you're the only one who see's it this way

[brooklynite]

18. spoilsport...

[MineralMan]

20. Well, I don't want all those Redditers to be too disappointed

if they show up there.

[Bobbie Jo]

35. You mean GO somewhere?

Highly unlikely.

Can't I just do this thing from my phone?

[MineralMan]

36. No problem.

Just text "Feel the BERN!" to 7734. That'll work.

[Codeine]

42. Ha!!!

For the win, sir!

[whatchamacallit]

24. MM's wistful fantasy presented as fact

More hall monitor prognostications...

[MineralMan]

25. Nah. It's my prediction of what will happen.

I predict, also, that you will be unhappy with the results of the convention. What do you think the odds are on that prediction?

[whatchamacallit]

27. They're pretty good

While we're at it let me make a prediction; you will live to regret your part in giving us a Trump presidency.

[Cosmic Kitten]

26. HA HA, Philly will be either a militarized zone or a riot zone

This will not end well for the Establishment.

[MineralMan]

28. Oh, I see.

We'll all get to watch, won't we? I'm especially looking forward to Bernie Sanders calling for a suspension of the rules and a nomination of Hillary Clinton by acclamation. That'll be great!

[DrDan]

30. an on-line revolution? Pounding those keyboards. Social media ablaze with screams of CONSPIRACY!!!

Not going to happen. The convention will be civil. Hillary becomes the nominee on the first vote. Bernie will endorse.

[auntpurl]

33. They'll be like 20 dudes there

Outside, all pumping each other up about the revolution.

[DrDan]

64. all angry and laden with the latest conspiracy

[auntpurl]

32. You sound like you're really hoping so.

Fingers crossed! Nothing like a real media shitstorm at OUR party's national convention, eh?

[NuclearDem]

49. When you don't get what you want democratically, threaten violence.

The motto of militias, anarchists, and terrorists everywhere.

[brooklynite]

68. Might want to start scoping out some park benches...

...the hotels will all be filled with Democrats.

[underthematrix]

61. I don't want any black people to participate in any protests because

we'll either end up dead or in jail. I'm going to be tweeting about this as we get closer to the convention. My message to my black brothers and sisters who support Bernie. Remember you are black and you are more likely to be perceived as dangerous, violent, more likely to be arrested, more likely to be convicted and more likely to do more time than your white counterpart. Don't do it. Instead go study for your college entrance exams or help people register to vote. DO NOT get involved in any protests at the convention! Just NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO. Let the "other" folks do that.

[Biaviians]

63. The word 'fracking' is more offensive than 'bitch'

[davidlynch]

65. Does this imply that what Roberta Lange and her ilk did in Nevada was fair?

This OP makes a case that the powerful will simply have their way in Philadelphia because dissenting opinion will be excluded. Is this something that should be celebrated?

In focusing on someone calling Barbara Boxer a bitch, OP completely sidesteps the main questions: should Roberta Lange and her ilk be permitted to abuse their power to change the rules so that Hillary can be given a win?

But to understand this, you have to know the three-tier system in Nevada and how Bernie had won second tier. If these rule changes had not occurred, Bernie would have effectively won Nevada.

Is OP saying that what occurred in Nevada is ethical? Would everything have been fine if not for unruly Bernie supporters?

[joshcryer]

69. Well, plus the states don't pay for your trip to the convention.

So by their nature most national delegates have some measure of support (I should say that some of the poorer ones do do fund raisers to great success, it's just not the norm).

To get to the convention you gotta be pretty connected, even with the affirmative action aspects of the delegate selection process.

[MineralMan]

70. That's why I don't usually run to be a

state convention delegates. They're always held away from the Twin Cities, and last more than one day. I can't afford to do that most of the time. So I leave it to people who can.

[joshcryer]

71. I tried being one.

But when I found out I had to eat all the costs I was like WTF. Not saying it's not possible but it takes a certain kind of dedication. The kind of dedication a guy who calls a highly treasured liberal senator a bitch probably doesn't have.