2016 Postmortem
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Nevada Democratic Convention voters prohibited from voting for Bernie Sanders say their voter registration was switched illegally without their knowledge.
Purged Nevada Voters Say Registration Was Unkowingly Switched
It doesnt need to be said, but mainstream media will not be reporting this. The Nevada state Democratic Convention on Saturday was pure, unadulterated chaos. From the very beginning to the very end, delegates who supported Bernie Sanders say it was essentially a one-woman show controlled by state chairwoman Roberta Lange.
Those media outlets that have seen fit to publish stories about the contentious convention are only telling one side of the story. And that story goes something like this: Delegates who showed up at the convention were not registered as Democrats by the May 1 deadline.
RawStory ran what amounts to a generic story with few details about why those delegates were denied entry by the credentials committee.
Reports have emerged that several people who were county convention delegates were either not on the rolls as being a delegate, were unregistered for unknown reasons, or had their party affiliation changed between the county conventions and the state convention on Saturday. One delegate uploaded her Clark County credentials, with a letter and her name badge as proof that shed been a delegate.
She then wrote that despite having participated in the county convention, Nevada convention officials denied her access. Roseann Pascoe Blackburn gave a brief description of what happened to her.
Nevada Democrats have no record of me being a county delegate, which in turn excludes me from the state level despite me having proof.
https://nvdemconvention.wordpress.com/2016/05/16/purged-nvdemconvention-voters-say-registration-was-illegally-switched/
This will comeback to bite!
djean111
(14,255 posts)Should be horrifically interesting, the GE. If the nominee is Hillary, both sides trying to out-cheat the other. I would not even bother watching that mess on TV.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)If that happens: sabotage it. Until then: keep fighting for Bernie!
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)tampering?
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)When will DU:Bernie stop believing the latest anonymous tales of corruption and deceit?
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)And I heard about it from an individual I personally know who attended the caucus who is extremely reliable and well trained to understand the legal details involved.
So I believe the Bernie supporters' accusations are not totally unfounded.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)of the Nevada State Convention. They are all available on Youtube now.
The most egregiously corrupt part of that whole convention was when the Chair created a "temporary" rule to make the results of all the delegate voting at the County Convention level in NV null and void because it didn't favor the chair's candidate.
That "temporary" rule is very reminiscent of the Bush v Gore SCOTUS decision in 4 ways:
1. The court, like the Chair above made the ruling to "elect" their candidate;
2. The two rulings were deemed "temporary" and not to be used in any other decision;
3. The corrupt decisions were openly displayed to the whole world in all their naked guile and
4. Both are unprecedented in the history of the US.
Unprecedented.
No other State Dem Party has ever declared the legitimately arrived at delegate counts of their 2nd tier convention to be null and void and to instead use the delegate count from the caucuses because it favored their candidate.
Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)doesn't appear to be anonymous...
greiner3
(5,214 posts)I used to enjoy reading your posts. WTF happened???
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Doing such a thing requires hard evidence.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)Hillarians try to spin it, but the facts are that people registered as Democrats for decades are finding their registration switched. It's not happening to Hillary supporters and other Republicans.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)voter lists. That is how whoever is doing this knows what voter registrations to flip.
mythology
(9,527 posts)The endless conspiracy theories are just sad.
yellerpup
(12,253 posts)If they could get in, so could others.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Also, claiming that 200 were purged. Wasn't it 64 were in question and 58 that were denied because they didn't follow the rules?
The facts don't add up with this blog at all.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)The fact that this story is still developing will lead to conflicting storys.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)65 Delegates is also false. 58 was the number. This blog is very flawed. C'mon, it was put together yesterday, It's not a vetted news source at all.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We need an independent investigation of the problems with credentials, voter registrations and overall fairness in this primary.
Is this some sort of abuse of power by Party officials, inexcusable sloppiness or unavoidable and normal error?
That question needs to be answered. We need a team of half Bernie and half Hillary supporters to investigate and explain these problems. And it needs to complete its work before November.
No whitewashing allowed.
raging moderate
(4,305 posts)They do have a history of doing things like this. Could we have some infiltrators here? Maybe both sides?
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)mismanagement at that by the Hillary supporters in charge of organizing the convention.
Read Non-Violent Communication by Rosenberg.
The appropriate way to organize that convention in the contentious atmosphere that remained after the caucuses and the accusations of fraud and unfairness during the caucuses would have been to call the two sides together, the supporters of Hillary and the supporters of Bernie BEFORE THE CONVENTION, hash out rules that would give each side the opportunity to be appear and be heard (the two basic elements of due process in our legal system and society) and demonstrate on stage solidarity for November. The time to get the disagreement about rules and about who would be allowed to vote and be heard was BEFORE THE CONVENTION, not during it.
The mismanagement by those in charge and they were Hillary supporters makes me wonder about Hillary's ability to manage the government should she win the White House.
Is she going to try to be as heavy-handed as her surrogates in Nevada were? Will she be better organized than they were? Will she include those who disagree with her about rules or other secondary matters or will she be able to unify people, to bring them together?
I think she has only a few months to prove her ability to organize and work with people with whom she has serious disagreements.
This Nevada caucus puts her ability to govern in doubt.
I am a Bernie supporter, but as I watch Hillary's campaign, I am more and more doubtful that she can make a good president. She has made no attempt to work with Bernie or his supporters on even just bringing the Democratic Party together. She has been unable to deal with the fact that some don't like or agree with her.
The primary and most important ability that a leader in a democracy must have is the ability to work with people who hate him or her and to deal calmly, capably and with tolerance with those who disagree, even loudly, with you.
Hillary has not shown those abilities. Bernie has.
Bernie is the capable leader here. Hillary is not.
Those organizing the Nevada caucus should have worked to coordinate with the Bernie supporters prior to the caucus. And they should have done it graciously and patiently. That's what leaders do. They didn't. They failed not only the Democratic Party but the entire nation.
No excuse. This is rudimentary organization. You don't go into a meeting like that without knowing what is going to happen from the first moment to the last in terms of handling the dissension.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)one way or another. They no longer give a shit about even appearing legal. This is occurring all over the world if you can see the connections. They just removed another democratically elected leader in Brazil. They are threatening Columbia with sanctions if Columbia produces a generic drug that an American Corp wants protected for profits. This is a global phenomenon.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)And I probably need to just leave it at that...
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)I came to the realization that is in fact NOT my fault. I have been fighting for 35+ years resulting in great harm to my well being. The fact that we seem to be losing to the forces of evil does not mean we are spineless or we let them. We have to treat ourselves a little more gently and a little less harshly.
snort
(2,334 posts)and I'm filing my teeth.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)THIS is what has enabled never-before-seen electronic Voter-Affiliation-Switching we see having happened here in Nevada (among many other states), and what is currently happening in California right now:
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This is the tool and the means that has enabled massive countrywide Voter-Affiliation-Switching and neatly explains why we have not seen this form of massive voter suppression before this election. We are seeing the results unfolding of which this experience in Nevada is a part. If this did not scare or concern you when Congress funded it, it should certainly give you pause now with the extensive evidence across the country of this new form of voter suppression, electronic Voter-Affiliation-Switching.
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Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)smartphone & tablet accessible Microsoft app distributed for use in Iowa used APIs embedded in the new central electronic voter registration software for voter registration verification and correction. So, yes, gateways exist.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)I didn't know about this. I was trying to figure out how so many likely Sanders voters were having their Democratic voter registration switched off. Bribes to local officials or to employees of the many private companies now involved in our s/elections? I knew computerization could make it easy. But this...THIS! I wasn't paying attention to the RW morons in Congress (not so moronic, it seems).
...new central voter registration software is in place now. This new integrated central voter registration software required states to install ES&S central vote tabulators running GEM$ vote tabulation software with which the new central electronic voter registration software integrates.
ES&S has far rightwing connections that would make innocent liberal Clinton supporters' hair stand on end! They are Evil Incarnate! THEY are rigging it for Clinton?!
Well, this explains Trump--the clown foil for this Kabuki Theater production.
OMG.
Kip Humphrey
(4,753 posts)is not what it was unfortunately).
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)People who steal elections did not win them.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Is Hillary capable of leading the country. I doubt it now more than I ever did.
I'm not being sexist. I'm a woman and I know how things have to be organized.
The Hillary and Bernie supporters should have sat together before the opening of the convention and agreed to share the time on the stage in a way that would give each side the opportunity to be heard and participate. That was not properly done.
This was a failure of organization.
And the reason for the lack of organization is the lack of respect on the part of Hillary supporters for Bernie supporters.
This lack of respect is harming the unity of the Democratic Party and is likely to harm the nominee in November.
Hillary is at fault on this because she is treated as the presumptive nominee.
Time for Hillary supporters to show some respect for Bernie supporters. That Nevada convention is not going to be forgotten. It was a demonstration of heavy-handedness, the inability to deal with people with whom you disagree and incompetence. The Hillary supporters in charge of the Nevada Party need to resign.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)-none
(1,884 posts)Just because no one is rioting on message boards and blogs, does not mean nothing is happening.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)(love this picture someone posted yesterday)
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B Calm
(28,762 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)but all of these people participated in two previous caususes. They must have signed in at those. What happened to that paper work?
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)the other was registered Repug and siad changed to Democrat, but that is just what is being said, doesn't have to be fact. When this was checked out in another state, every instance showed voter error.
Instead of just accepting these stories as fact, I will wait for an investigation to see if this goes along with the other accusations when Sanders loses that amount to nothing and is voter error, or shenanigans.