Is it time to begin planning a massive rally for democracy at the Philadelpha convention?

[imagine2015]

A rally to mobilize hundreds of thousands or more of young people, working class people, union members, oppressed minorities, progressive women and all those who want a candidate not controlled by big business and Wall Street to defeat Trump in November.

Hundreds of Thousands of Sander's Backers May Demonstrate At The Democratic Party Convention In July.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511683036

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

1. Partyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

Sounds like a good time.

I hope they do it.

[snowy owl]

70. No party, Time to get serious. Really serious. These are not frat events.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

100. You ever worked with Occupy?

I have.

Don't 'serious' me.

When I worked with them, lives were at stake.

Lighten up.

[rockfordfile]

121. I don't think so

The person that wins the Democratic primary will be the nominee. I will support and vote for that Democratic nominee.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

125. Not me.

If it's Clinton.

[RepubliCON-Watch]

126. Shhh. Not too loud.

You might make the privileged people angry.

[rockfordfile]

134. Then why are you here?

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

158. Where's here?

You mean this website?

Democracy. I like democracy.

[italiangirl]

137. Not me either

I am angry that the DNC put us in this position. I have lost all confidence in the Democratic Party and the behavior of the "Establishment" in this election. I am 85 years old and would not have any problem bolting if 'Bernie starts a new party. I always believed I would die with a "D" but not anymore. I am being forced to vote for a candidate who I do not support. I believe that Hillary Clinton is a hawk and will throw us in a war to prove to the republicans she is tough. Pulling the lever for her is just like having blood on my hands. For every body bag that comes home, I will feel responsible for voting for her. The guilt that I have to live with if I don't vote for her is profound. I should have never been put in this position, thanks to DWS for anointing her and now I have to live with the consequences. I pray every day that God will find a solution for this country. Hillary Clinton is not that solution.

[Ned_Devine]

2. As Napoleon Dynamite said, "heck yes!"

[NewImproved Deal]

3. Yes. With Boss Ed Rendell...

(Note his "Hillary" button) reprising the role of Richard Daley...

[link:|

[pa28]

4. If Sanders and his delegates are shut down in Philly like they were in Nevada? Absolutely.

They'll sweep us under the rug if we let them.

[Depaysement]

5. Occupy the Sequel

Bigger and badder.

[JaneyVee]

6. Your guy lost. Get. Over. It.

[morningfog]

11. Your gal can't clinch it until the last day of voting. Get. It?

[JaneyVee]

14. This race was over months ago.

[morningfog]

18. That's a lie. It's still going on. Hillary is not even called

presumptive yet, because she hasn't clinched it. It's not over. I know it chaps your ass, but that's the reality.

[tokenlib]

65. You did say "presumptuous" didn't you? N/t

[dchill]

79. Very.

[imagine2015]

30. Really? And Hillary still doesn't have enough pledged delegates to capture the nomination!

[snowy owl]

71. You get it so wrong. No over. Even if HRC nominee, it's not over. Why do you settle for so little?

The fight has just begun.

[bvf]

25. Nope.

You wouldn't even bother spouting that nonsense if you believed it. Not for a second.

Thing is, you're still trying to convince yourself.

[msongs]

7. lets see now the massive voter turnout has hillary ahead by 3 million votes. nt

[Ash_F]

16. Republican turnout has been much higher this cycle.

[CentralMass]

77. She has 1,716 delegates. Not enogh to secure the nominstion.

[pangaia]

151. Her being ahead by 3 million votes is a crock.

There is that little old thing called the caucuses...

[coffeeAM]

10. IN what alternative universe do true progessive women favor Clinton by these margins you refer to?

[mythology]

13. Are you openly making a no true scotsman argument

or do you not know that Clinton is winning women's votes by a wide margin?

[Gavile]

157. That's not true, especially among younger women

[politicaljunkie41910]

21. In what alternative universe do YOU get to define who is and is not a "TRUE PROGRESSIVE WOMAN"????

[JimDandy]

78. Anyone who supports Hillary after what she did in Nevada yesterday

can't call themselves a progressive and be believed. PERIOD.

And if you're still going to vote for her after that, you have truly lost your way. Leave the party to us who care about democracy, principles, fairness and justice.

[sturnz0r]

136. Lol, leave!

Hill's campaign actions are Indefensible, and you just confirmed it to yourself

[pangaia]

152. Every progressive woman I know supports Bernie.

[uponit7771]

89. so priliveged

[uponit7771]

92. My bad, I thought I was replying to JimDanddy's post... it's late...lol

[leftynyc]

109. Good thing

anonymous posters on the internet have jack shit to do with who gets to decide who is a true progressive.

[JaneyVee]

17. And union members!

[sadoldgirl]

46. No, only their supposed leaders!

[redstateblues]

56. 35 year Rank and file Union member here for HRC

[tokenlib]

66. Sorry to hear that with her record on trade..

you can't educate your fellow union members on the evils of the trade agreements promoted by the Clintons and their friends and the repercussions and then go work for them. At least I can't with a clear conscience.

[imagine2015]

31. Not among the youth and independents who will decide the general election.

[northernsouthern]

80. Like this poor nice lady...

[uponit7771]

88. +1

[One Black Sheep]

9. I hope so, lots of excitement and front page grabbing headlines

this is what democracy is all about. The real power lies in the people, not the elites or the establishment...sometimes, they may need to be reminded of that.

[coffeeAM]

12. I think this is gonna be bigger then any of us of realize..

[Whimsey]

20. Do you know how to spell Reagan?

Or are you being ironic? If so, I do not get the irony.

[Merryland]

102. it's too early for typomania

great nitpicking, though

[Whimsey]

112. But never too early for sarcasm!

[Whimsey]

15. If the popular vote

determines Hillary is the democratic nominee, why do you need a massive rally for democracy? Hasn't democracy determined the winner? Or are you like most revolutionaries? It's only truly "democratic" if you win. That is not democracy, that is oppression. Or maybe it is socialism.

[Ash_F]

19. ...

[Beacool]

23. You forgot the most important equation: VOTERS!!!

A concept that some of Sanders' supporters appear to conveniently ignore.

[Ash_F]

24. People can vote their conscious

The media and pundits have none.

[Ash_F]

29. Thanks

[Beacool]

32. People HAVE voted, and more have voted for Hillary than for Sanders.

That's what so many of his supporters can't seem to accept.

For crying out loud, he is NOT going to be the nominee!!!

The super delegates switched to Obama in 2008 when he was only ahead by 102 pledged delegates. Why would they switch from the candidate who they support already when she's winning by a country mile on both counts, pledged delegates and popular vote???

It's just crazy.......

[Ash_F]

33. Not all of them.

[Beacool]

41. Yes, but he no longer has a path to the nomination.

Hillary's pledged delegate advantage is almost triple what Obama had in 2008.

[tokenlib]

67. Is that open primary voting or closed?? N/t

[Beacool]

75. The process is the same as it was in 2008 and other prior elections.

[rockfordfile]

133. These people are not really Sanders supporters. I think they're actually right wingers

These people are so far out there.

[Whimsey]

26. Loser's response

Have you ever taken economics or polysci? All institutions work perfectly in theory. People are the corrupting factor. All revolutions have resulted in the winners bullying, destroying and displacing other members of society for their own personal gain. I do not see the rhetoric of Bernie supporters, or their actions, as being anything different. Modern history, French revolutionaries went after the elites, but then the middle class, and then their own class if they did not agree. Stalin did the same.

Bernie supporters make clear they will take whatever action is necessary to WIN. NOT to achieve JUSTICE. Bernie has raised and spent way more than Hillary - why isn't he winning if his message is so pure?

Probably because it isn't. Why is he refusing to release his old tax returns? Is it something to do with his wife's payments from the schools she destroyed? His income? Their contributions? Did they contribute to the Clinton Foundation? That would be a hoot, wouldn't it?

Start calling for the Sanders' disclosure. Hillary certainly disclosed all of hers.

[BillZBubb]

155. Project much, Brock minion?

Hillary and her supporters are the ones doing whatever it takes to win. Every irregularity that has occurred in the primaries has benefitted Hillary. Surprising? No.

Hillary supporters FEAR justice. They deny that she is even under an FBI criminal investigation.

Why doesn't she release her Wall Street speech transcripts if she and you are so interested in openness? Or her emails? Why is she refusing to do so? Is it something to do with her kissing up to the big moneyed interests? Did she tell them not to worry, if she's elected, she's on their side?

Let's see you start calling for Hillary's disclosure of her emails and her speech transcripts.

[Whimsey]

159. Brock who?

NO presidential candidates before were expected, or released, transcripts of speeches they made while a private citizen. But every presidential candidate in recent history have released their tax returns going back at least five years . . . .Except SANDERS and TRUMP. What do they have in common? Trump has apparently released a "tax summary" that shows in a recent tax year he earned 1.7 million for speeches. Why isn't Bernie going after him?

You only claim a primary event is an irregularity if Bernie doesn't get what he wants. He and his supporters are poor losers. And two delegates when he is behind by 275 is a crybaby issue. It's like all of you Bernie supporters played high school sports and the only issue that mattered was winning. Good sportsmanship is irrelevant. And if a ref makes a call against your team he should be labeled the enemy. GROW UP and live in the real world. Shit happens. Hillary won back the delegates she won in the original caucus. Go cry me a river.

And all of her e-mails have been released, and she is not under a criminal FBI investigation. Read the paper instead of the Bernie blog. Why do you think he blew off the issue to begin with? Remember the Iowa debate?

[imagine2015]

34. The primaries have been rigged and not very democratic at all.

Haven't you read the facts regarding how this primary season was rigged by top party officials to stop any liberal candidate like Bernie from getting the nomination via a democratic vote of the people?

[Whimsey]

44. What facts?

Opinions are not facts. Cite your facts.

[COLGATE4]

60. Crickets,,,

[snowy owl]

73. NY, Nevada and do the rest of the HW yourself. You haven't been paying attention obviously.

[Whimsey]

97. Lazy response

Clearly you can not support your statements.

Clearly you are a newbie to the election process.

Sorry you don't like the primary process - it was not set up to elect non-party members.

You could have started your own party.

Then you could act like Leslie Gore!

[leftynyc]

110. NY?

You mean here entire blocks and buildings were purged which, no doubt, would have led to an even bigger Clinton win? She cleaned up in the boroughs.

[Txbluedog]

22. Is Sanders going to fund raise to pay for these "protestors"

Because if you expect people to show up in Philly on their own dime, it's going to be a rally of tens not thousands

[imagine2015]

35. It won't be funded by Wall Street and corporate executives like Hillary's staged campaign events.

[COLGATE4]

61. No. In fact, it won't be funded at all.

[Andy823]

128. I don't know about that

I am sure Karl Rove might chip in a few million to help his trolls cause more problems, this time at the convention.

[COLGATE4]

149. I wouldn't put it past him, for sure.

[djean111]

142. That would actually not be any of your business, would it?

No one is asking you for money.

[tritsofme]

28. A protest against the majority of voters who had the temerity to oppose Sanders....

Uh huh...

[imagine2015]

38. A majority of voters were not allowed to vote in most of the primary contests.

And less than 10% of registered democrats participated.

[Whimsey]

48. Parties

are established to elect party members. States make the rules on primary elections and they want to elect party members. Bernie has never been a democrat. Why would you expect democratic party members to support a non-party member? It is the same thing with Trump and republicans.

If Bernie had been a party member, he would have had many supporters within the democratic party. He voted against Hillarycare, for god's sake, the democratic party's first real attempt to designate healthcare as a basic human right. It took him twenty years to finally vote for Obamacare. Guess he realized sometimes you actually do have to vote for incremental change to achieve the big stuff.

He could have started his own party for this election. Why did he choose not to? He would have avoided the primaries and been on the stage for the general. Why? Because it takes tremendous organization, a committed base, and a real desire to change the world. Bernie has none of these. He was unknown before the primaries. Why do you think he still gives the same stump speech instead of specifics on how his plans would be implemented and who would pay for them? Because the cost to middleclass taxpayers and young people will be staggering.

I would love to see a condensed election cycle, and I have no problem with a top two primary system. No states do that at the national level. It would cut cost and time.

Imagine that.2016

[redstateblues]

57. That's a lie

[Whimsey]

98. too bad you have no facts to back up your position

[savalez]

139. You reject facts so why bother?

[Whimsey]

150. ooh! Burn! Or is it . . . Bern!

You do not know any facts.

[uponit7771]

94. BULL FUCKIN SHIT!!! .................. thx

[Whimsey]

99. you either

[WhiteTara]

132. To vote in a PARTY primary, you must be

part of the PARTY. I know that this is the first primary for many, but ignorance is no excuse.

[uponit7771]

93. +1

[Corporate666]

36. To accomplish what?

Bernie represents the extreme left of the party. Most people are much more moderate. Clinton has no reason whatsoever to court Bernie supporters who refuse to follow their leader in capitulating to the superior politician. She needs to court people who are more centrist. Not to mention, the people who would get out and protest aren't going to vote for her anyway - so why should they be given any heed whatsoever?

They shouldn't.

Let them protest. Let them whine. Let them wallow in sour grapes. Let them spend their time airing conspiracy theories against the Clintons like the most right-wing groups did back in the 90's. They are, by their own choice and actions, excluding themselves from the democratic process, and they should just be ignored until they go away.

They are irrelevant.

[coffeeAM]

58. It's not 1995, the days of the blue dog democrat are over...

[Corporate666]

59. Considering Bernie has been roundly rejected by the voters, apparently not

...sort of like a boxer who just got knocked out saying in the interview "I just proved I am the best in the world".

Err, no you didn't. You just proved your plan failed and you lost.

[Merryland]

104. "roundly rejected by the voters" ?

that is such bullcrap I don't know why I'm wasting my time responding but it pisses me off to see it ad nauseum.

[Corporate666]

114. Yes, you're right.... I forgot "BernieMath"

Where being hundreds of delegates behind, millions of votes behind, having zero realistic chance of winning the nomination, and losing most of the largest and most important primaries equals "winning!"

The people have spoken. Bernie's platform has been REJECTED.

[pinebox]

68. The extereme left? LOL

When most of America agrees with his policies?
Sorry but things like free education, universal health care and a living wage are hardly the extreme left.

And sorry but this isn't irrelevant.

[Beacool]

37. A million people can show up and the result will be the same.

Hillary will be the nominee. The super delegates will not subvert the will of the people, no matter how many match-up polls the Sanders campaign can bring up.

Funny how for a group that has spent its time bemoaning how the electoral process functions, they are so willing to ignore what the voters want.

So "democratic' of them........

[imagine2015]

40. The voters clearly don't want Hillary. Trump will crush her. Bernie will defeat Trump.

[Beacool]

43. The voters????

Early match-up polls during a primary season mean squat. I'll worry about them after Labor Day.

[Whimsey]

50. Cite your facts.

[NanceGreggs]

52. She's far ahead in votes ...

... because the voters clearly don't want her?

[redstateblues]

54. LOL. Bernie can't even win the nomination of his own party

And he's been treated with kid gloves. The Rs would just loop the video of Bernie promising to raise taxes on the middle class. The last Dem to do that ,Mondale, won one state.

[lunamagica]

81. The voters have Hillary in 1st place with 12.6 million, Trump 2nd with 10 million, and Sanders 3rd

with about 8 million.

Looks like the voters want Hillary

[uponit7771]

90. Only in Unicornia does this type of thinking exist

[sadoldgirl]

47. Right,just like Humphrey won the election.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

82. Yeah, because Bobby Kennedy was murdered right after winning the CA primary, and they put up Hubert

Hubert Humphrey the warmonger, and lost to Nixon in 1968. Nixon was a warmonger too and sabotaged the Paris Peace Talks. Ignored the millions of protesters. Eventually was forced out of office and forced to withdraw from Vietnam.

The cops were busting heads open outside the convention in Chicago. I'm old enough to remember seeing some of that footage on TV.

[lindysalsagal]

39. Bernie Phili delegates: Check your party designation: Dirty tricks

might be changing you to republican without your permission.

Watch the convention leaders for rules violations. Bring reporters and catch everything on cell phones.

[Tarc]

42. The Sanders camp can either be outside the convention combating reality, or inside

and getting somewhat of a share of crafting the party platform.

Pick the direction that you think will advance your cause the first, and pick wisely.

[Peace Patriot]

84. "...getting somewhat of a share of crafting the party platform"? Lol!

Lol x 1,000!

Debbie says 3 committee seats, with Clinton chairs who will shut down those 3. "Crafting" is the word for it.

The reason for the NV Clinton Party and Barbara Boxer pissing all over Sanders supporters at the NV convention is that one million new voters will likely have been registered in California by the deadline May 23! We had 850,000 new voter registrations as of March, almost all of them Democrats. The biggest part of this flabbergasting surge of new voters in California is young voters (150+% increase!). A similar registration surge has occurred in Oregon.

Clinton is about to get demolished in the West. That is why the Clinton campaign is becoming unglued. I've never seen anything as crazy as what the Clintonites just did in Nevada. They didn't NEED to do it. They did it because they don't know how to stop Sanders. He may just clinch the nomination in CA and OR, but at the very least he and we are going to stop Clinton from doing so. She and you are going to have to pull a Nevada in Philadelphia in order to rig it for Clinton.

But you know that. Or maybe you don't. Nevada was the rehearsal.

Clinton and her supporters do NOT understand what is happening. 1968 is happening, when we had the slaughter of TWO MILLION PEOPLE in Southeast Asia and the deaths of nearly 60,000 U.S. soldiers shoved down our throats. Clinton enthusiastically supported the carnage in Iraq, designed the carnage in Libya and Syria, and sought even more carnage in Iran. She also supported and funded the murderous fascist coup in Honduras. She has Henry Fucking Kissinger as her friend and advisor, as well as Robert Kagan, architect of "The Project for a New American Century," Cheney-Rumsfeld's blueprint for world domination. And she is a Wall Street-funded plutocrat who is going to shove "free trade for rich" down our throats, along with all the blood she can manage in foreign lands that her donors want "destabilized."

We HAVE HAD IT! Do you get that? 71 year old working woman here, and Democratic Party member, voter and activist for over 50 years. *I* have had it! I STAND WITH THE YOUNG! Fini, kaput, it's over for Clinton. It's their world now, after all the shit that people like Clinton have done to it. It's their Mother Earth to save! It's their democracy to save! AND I AM WITH THEM!

And there are a whole lot of old geezers like me in the bright blue states of California and Oregon!

[Tarc]

101. Um, Clinton has already stopped Sanders

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as he has no possibility of catching up. Hate to break it to ya there, Wavy Gravy, but the primary is over.

[ladjf]

111. Fabulous post! nt

[rockfordfile]

130. you're not a democrat

you're not a democrat. actually you sound like a right wing nut. Southeast Asia? Vietnam war was a right wing conservative cause.

Why are you not protesting the republican convention?

[JoePhilly]

45. Set up voting booths around the convention center.

That will ensure the Bernie supporters don't show up.

[puffy socks]

120. Hahaha!

That is funny!

[JoePhilly]

135. Thanks!

[Recursion]

49. My God there are some bad instincts at play here.

If the left loses its shit and damages the party, the party is going to change its rules to lock the left out and focus more on the center, not the other way around.

[Whimsey]

55. Bernie's left

is the republican's teaparty And you are right it is scary.

On an upbeat note, parties have changed names and positions many times over the history of this great democratic nation. What's in a name? A rose would still smell as sweet. Berniecrats cannot destroy our party.

[pinebox]

72. Ya it's soooo scary!

BOO!





You know what truly is scary, the fact that you support a candidate who is essentially a Dempublican. You call us the Tea Party Left and if you want to so, so be it but myself and millions more will continue to fight for what we see as bettering this country; universal health care, free education and a living wage.

If that's your "Tea Party Left" scenario so be it. I'll gladly have that over your corporate greed hack of a candidate.

Sorry but the Dem party was destroyed when the Clinton's came to power. FDR is rolling in his grave.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

83. Bernie is a Depression era New Deal Democrat.

Not a corporate democrat. Hillary is basically a moderate Republican. Like Bill Clinton.

You would have to be in your eighties now to remember when we had a real New Deal Democrat, Roosevelt, in the White House. He died in April of 1945 and was elected four times. The Repukes were so pissed that they passed a constitutional amendment limiting the President to two terms after that.

Bernie is in favor of the New Deal and also the Four Freedoms that FDR did not live to see enacted. And getting the claws of the greedy oligarchs off the economy. As FDR said about the ruling class, "I welcome their hatred."

[PATRICK]

87. OK you are scared

Anger and fear and kissing off almost half the elected delegates on national TV probably with more "platform" prejudice and a wider gulf than ever existed in 1968 will get you what exactly? It is not the Sanders' delegates who have the power to heal or divide if they are as is righteously proclaim,ed- the putative losers.

It sounds to me as if it is the Clinton faction or more properly the self proscribed party establishment that is determined to slaughter and divide the party of Roosevelt. They are afraid of the ideas not the man. Not it ios "our party" as if you have already excommunicated the challengers!

Saves people the angst of choosing to walk out en masse, doesn't it? No one has ever dismissed a competitor's delegates like that before. People even have kissed and made up with George Wallace AFTER his third party attack. Of course he was a right wing Southerner of sorts. Then there were the Dixiecrats who nailed the heavily lidded coffin of Democrats trying to run against war hero Eisenhower. Humphrey made himself a name by dissing them on their way. But those were right wing Southerners too.

Now Moneycrats are trying to lecture FDR Democrats, or is it really all about Hillary, their sole and best champion? A bitter campaign under the present circumstances is childish. So is Trump the Terrible par excellence.. Can we find mature ways to get it together? Maybe not if all we want if fluff and corporate giveaways in a global crisis.

[pinebox]

108. "Moneycrats", I like that, will use XD +1

[Thinkingabout]

51. As Michael Moore said together we will beat Trump.

[snowy owl]

74. After he said he's for Bernie along with Maher. Smart people with integrity are always for Bernie.

[Thinkingabout]

96. Yes and he understands a Trump presidency will not be progessive.

[rockfordfile]

124. They will also support Clinton if she is the nominee

[Gomez163]

53. Stay away

[brooklynite]

62. Will there be a drum circle outside my hotel room? I might get home late some nights...

[msanthrope]

144. The larouchies are gonna get all the best tent spots. Just like Occupy Philly. nt

[brooklynite]

145. I'm thinking they'll want to bunk down in Franklin Square...

...it's less convenient, but Rittenhouse Sq is a little too 1% for their comfort.

[msanthrope]

146. Seen Franklin Square lately? No way Philly let's them congregate on the playground and shut down

mini golf.

[brooklynite]

147. Isn't the point to annoy ordinary people?

[msanthrope]

148. Ordinary people in Philly are Eagles fans. This might get fun. nt

[CobaltBlue]

63. imagine2015—Engaging all, including young, voters is important.

[highprincipleswork]

64. Yes, it is more than time. As much as can possibly be done.

[snowy owl]

69. Hope so. Only way Progressives can move country is by huge turnout like million-man march under King

A massive demonstration of progressive values would kick ass like nothing else. So big, it couldn't be ignored by media. Will it happen? A call to progressives nationwide is necessary.

[Txbluedog]

76. Maybe a call to these peop,e was necessary to get them to vote in the primary

Too late now

[rockfordfile]

122. What does that have to do with anything?

[ProgressiveEconomist]

103. As in '68? Riots

that will offend the world and throw the GE to Trump, just as 1968 goings-on in Grant Park have Nixon a mandate?

And what lack of "democracy" are you talking about? The power of superdelegates? Superdelegates were added to the mix after an egoistic "antiestablishment" tiny -state Senator, George McGovern, seized power over the Democratic Party and led it to devastating GE defeat in all but two states.

IMO, Bernie Sanders is following the McGovern model to a tee. The "establishment" he rails against is precisely the downticket Democrats a real Democratic Party leader needs for a successful administration. IMO Bernie's campaign has been a ploy to ensure Republican control of Congress and the USSC since its inception last year.

[HereSince1628]

105. IMO, the only demonstration that counts is replacing the bums

Complacency works against us, but so do demonstrations that are confused with action.

The turnout at Sanders' rallies is plenty enough demonstration that a significant portion of Americans have had it with government that doesn't work for them. Be heartened by that, move on to the next stage...this ain't rocket science.

Identify the bums, offer alternatives that promise to serve the people, work together to get the alternatives elected.

At the national level ~30 alternatives to swing the balance of power in the House and ~8 to swing the senate. The capacity to swing votes brings influence/power inside the system.

[J_J_]

106. reddit is already organizing

https://www.reddit.com/r/berntheconvention

And I am sure the Hillary people are already working on plans to squash it.

First set up 'free speech' cages

Pretend that Bernie people are violent so you have an excuse to beat them up

Hire Academi (Blackwater) to beat the crap out of people and the media will happily play along and blame the victims.

[MineralMan]

107. Knock yourself out.

Hundreds of thousands, you say? That seems doubtful to me. Very doubtful. Maybe a couple thousand.

But, if those hundreds of thousands do go to Philadelphia, they're going to need places to stay, places to use the toilet, and some organization to work around the obviously tight security that will be in place near the convention venue. Who's going to organize this protest?

A few thousand will show up, organization or not. They'll represent a very, very broad range of political opinion. They won't all be on Bernie's side, either.

Someone needs to think this through really carefully, I think. Good luck with that.

[Txbluedog]

118. Think this through is not a BS supporter strong suit

[msanthrope]

153. if someone named Kristinn offers to organize the porta potties I'm

gonna get suspicious.

[workinclasszero]

113. A massive turnout at the ballot box would have been way better.

Just sayin.

So you couldn't get these people to the polls but they will come to riot at the convention in Philly?

[Scurrilous]

115. All aboard!

[TheFarS1de]

116. Let's just keep going with the free wars idea .

Much more beneficial to a societies advancement ......

[Txbluedog]

117. Minorities, women don't vote for Sanders

Why would they attend a rally for him?

[azmom]

119. I'm both, so you are wrong.

[nadinbrzezinski]

141. Any other absolute points you would like to make?

[djean111]

143. I am a woman. I support Sanders.

I have never yet met a woman who supports Hillary.
For someone who says"they are in college, or work at a college, you sure seem to have a very low-information view of, well, everything.

[rockfordfile]

123. Why don't you do that in Cleveland?

[Freddie Stubbs]

127. It Sandersnistas can't be bothered to show up to vote in primaries, why would they travel to Phlly?

[brooklynite]

129. Here's the Occupy protest at Charlotte...

Should we expect something better?

[NCTraveler]

131. That will probably make it the most uncomfortable day of Sanders life.

Your just going to be mixed in with protesting Trump supporters.

[Andy823]

138. Maybe thats the whole idea

It would make the Democratic convention a nightmare, which would help the republicans in their effort to make Trump look "acceptable". If republicans can get a bunch of Bernie supporters to show up and protest, then get some of Trumps goons to show up, I am sure there would be trouble, and trouble is what karl Rove and the GOP want to see at the convention.

[reddread]

156. inside yes. outside?

a vigil. completely non-violent.

this is absolutely imperative.

if that cannot be achieved, you might as well put on your uniforms and start swinging batons.
because they sure will.
and you know who will be blamed and brutalized for it.