Should Bernie still endorse Hillary?

[Barack_America]

Oh sure, I realize that it's *technically* Hillary's surrogates who have been flinging poo in Sanders's face, and those of his supporters...while Hillary says totally believable (*heavy sarcasm*) things like, "I have no problem with him staying in the race", and floating suggestions that she could make the party platform an ode to Sanders's revolution (yeah right).

But, c'mon. We all know better that she (and Bill) are truly behind these insulting decisions to stock the convention committees with Sanders foes, forcibly rewrite the Nevada caucuses to a result more acceptable to the Clinton camp, allow DWS to speak her vitriol about independents being unworthy of voting in Democratic primaries (or was her hatred of independents who caucus with Dems in Congress? I forget)...ETC.

In light of this clear, "you lost, fuck you for running" attitude emerging....

...Should Bernie still endorse Hillary Clinton, and (separately) should he still encourage his supporters to enthusiastically support her?

I'm particularly interested in any "yes" answers that don't involve "President Donald Trump" scare tactics. Let's presume there's still something for Sanders supporters to vote *for* in the Democratic Party, and discuss what that might be.

[Agschmid]

1. Yes, and he most likely will.

[Barack_America]

3. And...why?

That's what I'm looking for here.

I will accept, "to protect his position in DC" as an acceptable answer.

[Agschmid]

11. Why wouldn't he?

She'll be the nominee of the party, the party that he supports.

[Adrahil]

64. He says it himself.

"on her worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and President than the Republican candidate on his best day."

I'd say that establishes why pretty damned well.

[grossproffit]

2. I couldn't care less.

[Betty Karlson]

4. NO. He should get the nomination.

[yourpaljoey]

6. That's the Numbah One Ansa!

[Barack_America]

9. I agree, but, let's be honest here...

...the DNC is not going to nominate Bernie unless Hillary is removed as a candidate. It really doesn't matter if he manages to win the most pledged delegates or not. Nevada has shown us that they will mold the results of any election to benefit Hillary.

[Agschmid]

13. Hillary one the first stage of the caucuses.

How does one mold the result to support the winner when they won?

Should we just override the people who caucused?

[Barack_America]

15. They overrode the delegates who showed up to caucus for her.

By removing delegates who showed up to caucus for Bernie.

[Agschmid]

17. And those delegates overrode the voters.

The whole caucuse system is fucked.

But the drama abounding on this website over this issue is ludicrous.

[yourpaljoey]

16. Agreed. And the center will not hold.

This story is far from played out.

[OwlinAZ]

50. amen

[Adrahil]

65. Yeah, well, that ain't gonna happen, so yes, he will endorse her. NT

[YouDig]

5. He lost and he will endorse Hillary. Because he's not insane.

[Barack_America]

7. Refusing to endorse someone who has humiliated you and your supporters...

...is insane?

[YouDig]

8. Nobody humiliated anyone, it was a campaign.

And a pretty mild campaign at that. Bernie made some unfair attacks, and some of his supporters seem intent on helping Trump win, but despite all that it's really been a pretty civil campaign. A nasty campaign is what the GOP had.

Bernie's going to endorse Hillary. No doubt about it. He's not a conspiracy nut, and he understands the importance of beating Trump.

[Barack_America]

10. Bringing in roughly half of the votes, but only getting 3/75 committee requests...

...is a pretty strong attempt at humiliation.

[YouDig]

14. No. Nobody cares about that. Humiliation is when Trump said Ted Cruz's wife was ugly

and his father helped assassinate JFK. Politicking at a state convention is normal. And sometimes the politicking helps Bernie, but funny how no Bernie supporters cry foul when that happens.

[OwlinAZ]

53. What bs you spout

There is such a thing as honor and conscience. You may dismiss it but many of us will stay the course.

[Kittycat]

12. Not with open and unchecked cheating like NV on the table

[Karma13612]

21. I have to say, NV is looking a LOT like my last straw. People

Are free to vote for anyone they wish in the general, regardless of party affiliation.

The DNC could be creating a very unpleasant loss for Hillary with this "tough shi!" Attitude.

[Kittycat]

22. I was already over it, but

That makes me want to go to Philly this July.

[Karma13612]

45. Oh if only, I sooooo wish I could go.

Please make sure to be cautious in crowded places, watch your back, bring goggles for pepper spray, and keep your convictions strong.

Like many many others, I have to work and couldn't afford to take the time off, or even get the OK. Vacation schedules are made out back at beginning of the year, and those weeks are booked way before the schedule gets to me.

I will watch the action on line (as I doubt the revolution will be televised).

Best of luck if you do go.

I will support any way I can from the arm chair!

[chervilant]

18. There are

hundreds of thousands of people in this nation who will NOT vote for Hi11ary.

Sad that the Democratic Party du jour thinks pushing her down our throats is going to work somehow.

[Metric System]

19. Millions more people have voted for Hillary. What part don't you understand?

[Kittycat]

23. Baltimore decertified

Irregularities in NV, IL, NY, AZ, etc, etc... What more don't you understand. Seems she can only win by cheating.

[Metric System]

26. Why are there only conspiracies when Bernie loses?

[Kittycat]

32. I didn't say anything about losing

I said cheating. Because rules don't apply to Clinton's.

[Metric System]

34. Yep, Bernie's losing so it must be due to cheating. Reality check: Democrats want Hillary as the

nominee. I know Sanders supporters refuse to accept this and believe everybody hates her.

[Karma13612]

46. +10 eom

[Adrahil]

66. She won Maryland by 30 points.

And it's not like every public poll didn't show him WAY in front there.

This move by Sanders supporters to shout "Cheating!" at every loss seriously undermines their credibility.

I'm not saying there weren't irregularities, but I have YET to see even a shred of evidence that there was an orchestrated effort to actually cheat anywhere. This sounds a whole lot like the Climate deniers shouting CHEATING at climate scientists because of some data irregularities when the REAL reason is that they don't like the answer.

[chervilant]

25. Really?

"What part don't you understand?"?!?

I don't have the time nor the inclination to explain to you how astonishing it is that so many "Democrats" support a disingenuous corporate shill who's under investigation by the FBI.

Good luck with that, and please don't complain if we end up with "Tiny-Hands" Trump.

#NotMeUs

#DropOutHillary

[Metric System]

27. Good riddance.

[OwlinAZ]

51. nope

[chwaliszewski]

20. Absolutely, he should endorse Hillary...

and also ask his supporters to do the same. For the same reason that if the tables were turned, Hillary should/would endorse Bernie and ask her supporters to switch their support to him. That's the way it works, like it or not. Whether his supporters will do just that is another question. I, for one, can't force myself to vote for her, Trump or not. I'll be writing in Bernie's name on the GE ballot here in WA state because for me, it's the only conscionable thing to do.

[djean111]

39. I am exactly with you.

Bernie's supporters are not minions. Hillary's supporters cannot comprehend that.

[snort]

42. I'll be doing the same here in Oregon.

Bernie will be writ large upon my ballot. Good luck America.

[dana_b]

71. at first I was rolling my eyes but

you're right. He will support her (IF she is the nominee!) but I don't think he expects us to do so. He may suggest it, but I don't think he will lecture us. It's not his way.

And I'm with you regarding the rest of it.

[HereSince1628]

24. Bernie has promised he won't run outside the party, although he hasn't promised more

he may. It is after all else, -his- choice. I respect him enough to let him make that choice. After he does, I'll have to decide how to deal with that choice.

[PowerToThePeople]

28. I hope he does not

Because when he wins California in a landslide, it will not be a concern.

Bernie 2016!

[Metric System]

29. LOL

[PowerToThePeople]

30. Yes

Hillary IS a joke.

[Karma13612]

47. Love your downward H arrow. that is worth a few extra recs!! +100 eom

[PowerToThePeople]

58. Not mine

I stole it. I could link the site that I found the graphic, but will not.

It can be found. I won't vote Hillary.

[Karma13612]

67. No prob. /// Nor will I unless things change drastically. Eom

[cantbeserious]

31. NO

eom

[Merryland]

33. I hope he doesn't

but whether he does or he doesn't, I've already made up my mind. Bernie or stay home.

[Metric System]

35. You must live a charmed, privileged life if a Pres. Trump would have no negative impact on you.

[Karma13612]

48. we aren't playing that game this cycle. The line is being drawn.

Sadly, the line is being drawn by the actions of the DNC, with things like Nevada, etc.

I won't say it is Hillary's doing. But I have noted that she doesn't seem too fussed about any of the irregularities being brought to light. As the old saying goes, If you are winning, keep your mouth shut.

You will get your Hillary nomination, but you will not win the War.

You will not have enuf people voting in the general to have Hillary as president.

It is going to be very ugly.

[Dem2]

36. It doesn't matter what a bunch of whinging Internet Warriors think

And he will endorse her of course, because he is a grown up.,

[Zynx]

37. If we want to get into surrogates, how about crazy Sanders surrogates like Sarandon, HA Goodman

etc?

Be mature about this.

[Smarmie Doofus]

38. I don't think it matters much.

People who supported his run are ... pretty much by definition..... capable of thinking for themselves.

The senator will do what he has to do... or wants to do; we who back his effort will do what we think best.

Not many of us think of Bernie as some kind of political god to be worshipped, followed and obeyed.


That's not what this campaign was/is about.

[99Forever]

40. His choice not mine.

I do not ever vote by endorsement, not even his.

[Lizzie Poppet]

41. At this point, with all the Camp Weathervane shenanigans?

Hell no.

[Tarc]

43. Unlike some (the word SOME) cannot be emphasized enough) of his supporters

Sanders sees the long game ahead, and is not going to get bogged down with in-party pettiness.

Yes, he will endorse and campaign for Hillary in the fall.

[beachbum bob]

44. you can't have any intelligent answer that does not include "trump" or "conservative"

.......sanders will endorse and support hillary HE KNOWS what is at risk and hopefully most of his supporters do too...

[OwlinAZ]

49. If he wishes.

Many of us will certainly not.

[JoePhilly]

52. He will.

He'll say its the only way to continue to make progress on the things Democrats care about.

Pretty simple.

[asuhornets]

54. HE WILL ENDORSE HER...N/T

[DebDoo]

55. No. He should not. Will not. And never was going to. He said he'd make sure trump doesn't win, not

That he would endorse her. I think his plan has always been to go on attack of Trump but I doubt he ever planned on endorsing her. She represents everything he's against as much, but in different ways, as Donald Trump.

[doc03]

56. Of course that is a f---g stupid question. n/t

[pinebox]

57. Not a chance in hell after last night in NV

[NorthCarolina]

59. No, he shouldn't. Not to worry though

because she enjoys the backing of major vote getters like Kissinger, the Bush clan, Cheney, and high rollers like just about anyone who makes their fortune on Wall St.

[amborin]

60. No, Never! She represents the antithesis of the core values that Bernie represents

[Jackilope]

61. No. Neither should we.

Our voter integrity is clearly a joke. What I've read in CoffeeCat's experience as well as reading about the dirty, dirty tricks in NV alone indicates this primary is being stolen.

Shame on any and all of us for allowing this to happen or to enable it.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

62. Like everyone else he should make his own decision regarding his support.

Hopefully, like everyone else, he should make it based on his own principles.

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost. John Quincy Adams

[franannjo]

63. knife in the back.

After someone makes a huge effort to knife jou in the back,should you thank those people and than enthusiastically support them.
Leave them be. They hang themselfs. May just be, the establishement needs to stop theyr corruption.

[whatchamacallit]

68. Won't make any difference what he does

My nose is ring-free.

[tokenlib]

69. Bernie should consult with his supporters!

Bernie has always said it is about US, and not him. He should consult with his supporters and make a decision.
And then act on it when the superdelegates make their choice.

[Turin_C3PO]

70. Yes...

And he will. He'll endorse Clinton because he understands the absolute horrific danger of electing the pseudo-fascist Donald Trump to the highest office in our land. He understands the peril of Republicans possibly controlling all three branches of government. He understands that at least one Supreme Court space is open and more are likely to open up in the next few years and that a conservative court would return us to 1890's. Lastly, he understands that the only way to enact a truly progressive movement has to be done within the current party structure.

[pampango]

72. Yes and Hillary should endorse her opponent if she loses. n/t