Why I Would Never Vote for Bernie Sanders, Ever

[ericson00]

If Bernie were somehow to steal Hillary's rightful nomination, whether or not he truly polls as well as a he does in a general, given never being truly attacked, I could not vote for him. Just as I can't vote for Trump, in part because of his disasterous economic plans and extreme protectionism, his lack of experience in government, isolationism, and "neutrality" on Israel/Palestinians, I could not vote for Bernie, who preaches an economic system that could not work in America given its large size compared to Denmark, etc., he barely has been anything more than a congressional apparatchik, also has no foreign policy experience worth talking about, sided with communist evil during the Cold War, and panders to the anti-Israel fringe of this country.

Hillary actually has experience, has an American worldview, and knows economics. If Bernie were the nominee, I stay home, at the least. I bet I'm not alone. Hillary's still winning the popular vote in this national contest by a mile.

[hrmjustin]

1. Nominating the second place finisher would be a disaster.

[ericson00]

15. it would scorn what will be nearly 60% of the party

by the time California and NJ vote. And not everyone is looking for Bernie's huge tax hike.

[Purveyor]

17. Already positioning for the 'indictment', eh? Interesting...indeed.

[synergie]

67. Ah, the right wing fantasy embraced by so many Bernie followers? Nope.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

5. WELL SAID!

Thank you.

[840high]

27. Exactly.

[immoderate]

101. Non-reactionary people may disagree, but I support OP's right to hold this opinion.

--imm

[mr_liberal]

3. Gary Johnson. nm

[ericson00]

14. id rather not; I don't buy Libertarian Ayn Rand business

or their zero taxes bit

[HERVEPA]

81. More straight Rethuglican than Libertarian then, eh?

[Redwoods Red]

4. Scoop Jackson, is that you?

[ericson00]

8. Scoop was a patriot, unlike some other people who sided with America's Cold War

enemies (cough cough Bernie)

[villager]

33. The "Defense" contractors Hoovering up your tax dollars sure thought so...

...all the way to the bank.

[Cheese Sandwich]

6. Hillary refused to acknowledge that Palestinians are human beings

[ericson00]

7. anyone who blows themselves up, and thus murders many AND avoids responsibility

like the Palestinian terrorists do (while yelling "Allahu Akbar" before they do it, just like ISIS), which Palestinian society continues to condone and promote, sure as hell don't act like human beings.

[7wo7rees]

12. Overstepping bounds here. Take this to the I/P forum.

Out of line!

[ericson00]

13. people posted about AIPAC in GDP

and that issue is only one issue mentioned in the OP.

[7wo7rees]

16. Does not make it ok, Ericson, not at all.

They did it so I can. . .... No, period

[akbacchus_BC]

20. So, was it ok for the US to invade Iraq and kill thousands of people, when the

Iraquis had nothing to do with 9/11! How do you explain that shit intelligence by Rice and that other asshole, whose name I cannot remember right now.

[Fawke Em]

25. You do know Palestinians are walled off like the Warsaw Ghetto, or are you stupid?

No one in Palestinian society wants to die.

God.. please help us not have Hillary as president if her believers think this shit.

[Cheese Sandwich]

29. It's nice when they show their true colors though

[Fawke Em]

48. Like I didn't know they thought Palestinians were sub-human to begin with...

Sigh...

Yeah... I guess it's nice that I know the bigot I'm dealing with today.

[Cheese Sandwich]

50. I understand people have different opinions but it's kind of troubling when people

think all Arabs are terrorists and stuff like that. Really not cool.

[Fawke Em]

53. We live in a very diverse neighborhood, so right now, everyone knows and loves everyone.

My son is fine and he's being recruited by some great schools in big cities.

But here's the rub: When some Hillary fan tells me that Trump is going to deport Arabs or Muslims without mentioning that she's ordered them killed, I sit dumbfounded.

[Cheese Sandwich]

56. Yeah. I don't know what she could order exactly, but certainly encouraged it

When there wasn't really justification. In my opinion anyway.

[Fawke Em]

59. Well, you see where I'm coming from, none-the-less.

[cui bono]

63. And a jury actually let that stand 4-3.

IOKIYSHRC

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[synergie]

70. Ye, it is. Thank you for obliging on so many different posts.

[Cary]

95. You have a solution?

Anything is possible, but I doubt that you would have any answer to the Middle East crisis.

[seekthetruth]

39. HOLY CRAP.

The Palestinian people suffer a great deal. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[lancer78]

65. Neither do the Israelis

by bulldozing Palestinian homes for their settlements. "The final solution for the Palestinian problem."

[leftynyc]

68. You DO realize

that the actual final solution was a MASS GENOCIDE. That you compare that to bulldozing homes is the reason you're losing on this issue with the vast majority of Americans. Hyperbolic bullshit doesn't sway anyone. I see a lot of people on this board fooling themselves on this issue - until the Palestinians show ANY interest in a peaceful solution with Israel, they will continue to suffer. As long as people like yourself continue to pretend if they just wait a little while longer - perhaps the magical unicorn fairy will get them a state, they will continue to suffer. Until they stop voting in terrorist organizations as leaders, they will continue to suffer. It's really not that complicated and most Americans are perfectly fine with Israel fighting against hamas.

[COLGATE4]

86. This is becoming Godwin territory now on DU. The

use of 'Final Solution' in this context is totally offensive. Another DUer belabored me for criticizing a former Greek Finance Minister's calling the refugee centers for those fleeing Syria "Concentration Camps". In another post here in this thread there is the startling assertion that the Palestinians are walled in 'like the Warsaw Ghetto". Using Nazi imagery as a club to bash Israel is not the bottom of the barrel - it's below the bottom of the barrel.

[leftynyc]

87. All it does is prove

they don't know dick about the I/P issue. If Gaza is like the Warsaw ghetto, perhaps there may be a picture or two showing that. Did the people in the Warsaw ghetto get to vote for their leaders and vote in a terrorist organization? It's why they keep losing on this issue - they refuse to see what's right in front of them. They can shriek about nazis every single day, it'll never get the Palestinians a state. The only thing that will do that is sitting down with the Israelis.

[COLGATE4]

88. As long as the Palestinian's "leaders" are convinced that the best

tactic for them is to sit back and wait for Israel to make more (and more, and more) concessions without offering a damned thing in return I don't see any chance for progress. Their leaders are totally indifferent to the conditions their people are suffering. Cynically, they see this as beneficial to the eventual goal of pushing the Israelis into the sea.

[leftynyc]

89. The reason

the Palestinians sit back and wait for someone to save them is because so many of their supporters have told them to just suffer a little while longer while they try and figure something out. It's time for them to realize most of their supporters don't care one whit about them and are only anti-Israel. If they don't sit down with Israel, they wont get a fucking thing. Which would be exactly what they deserve. They keep electing leaders who are thoroughly corrupt (Abbas) or terrorists (hamas) - it's like they can't get out of their own way and there isn't a Sadat among them.

[COLGATE4]

100. I agree. But remember that Sadat was Egyptian. The Palestinians have "leaders" like

Yassir Arafat or Hamas. Therein lies the difference.

[leftynyc]

102. Of course

but they've never had ANYONE who showed the vision and courage that Anwar Sadat (may he rest in peace) did. They just keep electing corrupt assholes and terrorists - and then people on DU wonder why Americans strongly sympathize with Israel rather than the Palestinians. It's right in front of their faces and they refuse to see it.

[COLGATE4]

105. There's that old saying about 'none so blind as they who

will not see". It's particularly fitting here. I think that at least some Palestinians believe that victimhood becomes them. They spend their time dreaming pipe dreams of the great day when the trumpets blow and all the Jews are miraculosly pushed into the sea. Until then, they go on about their daily lives, content in the knowledge that their leaders would rather use building supplies to build new attack tunnels rather than repair crumbling infrastructure and celebrating the odd knifing of some unarmed Israeli civilians. And never once do they think to question why all their Arab 'brothers' sit back silently and watch them twist in the wind. It's mind boggling.

[Bluenorthwest]

91. That's some extreme and eliminationist talk, Palestinians are not human beings? Lord.

You think that makes Hillary look better? Her Church is anti gay, she offers no criticism of that but she objects to her Church having any hint of support for Palestine along with Israel. It's a layered bigotry parfait.

[ericson00]

93. the Palestinian population has skyrocketed in every time interval

be it years, decades, quarter-centuries, half-centuries, centuries, etc. What "eliminationism?"

[akbacchus_BC]

19. You cannot argue with that kind of mentality. It boggles the mind!

[synergie]

69. Bernie told them to shut up, effectively treating them as if they were not human beings.

Why would anyone have to acknowledge specifically that a group of people were "human beings"? Did you have some doubt that some people are not? What an odd thing to say, given how odd your attempts to find something to criticize, that us saying something.

Why do you doubt the humanity of Palestinians, is it just because your dear leader yelled at some that "protested" his speech?

[Hortensis]

108. Hillary's known around the world for living a humanitarian LIFE.

And, of course, as an ex- U.S. Secretary of State she's extremely knowledgeable about all the very, very complex issues swirling around those poor Palestinians.

IMO, only profound ignorance combined with nastiness -- or a wish to appeal to it -- could produce such a silly statement. Cheese Sandwich, what's your agenda? Are you using the Palestinian tragedy in hopes of hopes of converting people like me to left-wing anti-Zionism? Hillary of course presenting right-wing Zionism in this phony scenario?

If so, too late. People like us are against all evil-promoting, troublemaking factions around the world, never against whole nations or whole peoples. Whether hard conservative or nasty far left or right, if they want to hurt other people, it doesn't matter what labels they wear, or what nation they operate in, we're their enemy.

That includes all anti-Israel forces, anti-Semites, and anti-Muslims, with of course anti-Palestinians, right here in America.

[shenmue]

94. Lie

[bvf]

9. You sound upset.

Good.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. Alas I will not pressure you to vote for any candidate

This is a choice between you, your pillow, your wife, your husband, and your pets... if you want to share that much. For the record I do, my pillow, the conure and my husband knows my choice, I know his.. we don't go around publishing it.

This is an adult choice. So stop pressuring the rest m'kay. Respect that adult choice, and if you chose to sit it out, the more power to you.

And in fact, I am actually recommending YOUR POST. I fully agree with you making that adult choice

[akbacchus_BC]

21. Nadin, let them vote for Trump and then they will realise what a dick they voted for.

Some people need to reach the bottom of the barrel and like the GOP, they will pull themselves up with their boot straps. If Mrs. Clinton is the nominee and they do not want to vote for her, let them be. It is always the lesser of two evils but I know that Mr. Sanders will be a big influence on her platform and perhaps she will not be the Wall Street Girl that she is and really fight for the working class and poor people. Every effing politician mentions the working class but none of them address the plight of poor people!

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. The difference between the OP and you and me is that we really do not care

if they threaten to vote or not. That decision is mine and yours to make, and the vote (we still pretend) is private and secret.

As to the rest, well... what can I say.

[akbacchus_BC]

24. You do care as well as I do, but enough is enough. They can use their civic rights and vote for whom

they please. Ultimately, it comes down to common sense, the GOP is never for the poor people of America. Trump wants to build a wall, deport millions of people rather than declaring an amnesty. To be honest with you, am confused why the GOP is so short-sighted. I cannot believe how different the two parties are -- one is humane and the other is inhumane!

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. Well you should read Thomas Frank's book

the Ds (as I predicted years ago) have become a center right party... my friends in the GOP are a far right fascist party.

But that is neither here or there. Who I vote for is my business and nobody else's and who the OP votes for is his business, and nobody else's. He wants to sit it out. sure. It is his right and choice.

[akbacchus_BC]

31. Nadin, never heard of Thomas Frank but will read the book.

Of course, we vote for the person whom we identify with.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. Here

https://www.amazon.com/Listen-Liberal-Happened-Party-People-ebook/dp/B012N992EK?ie=UTF8&btkr=1&redirect=true&ref_=dp-kindle-redirect

You might remember him from What is the matter with Kansas

[slipslidingaway]

11. Almost engaged, but best just to let it sink. nt

[Scootaloo]

58. Nah, it's funny watching Sisyphus chase his boulder downhill.

[nadinbrzezinski]

62. You will have to patiently explain that to the OP

am afraid

[akbacchus_BC]

18. You are entitled to your opinion and to whom you vote for, that is your civic right.

Thanks for sharing your animosity towards Mr Sanders. Democrats will vote for Mrs. Clinton as she will be the nominee. I have no idea why you are being so divisive. Do carry on but do not run for public office with that kind of attitude. Amen!

[Fawke Em]

23. Don't you know you're just voting for Trump!

You're not really a liberal. You're not really a progressive. Can't you see how NOT voting for the Democratic nominee is stupid, dumb, insane, idiotic, voting for the Republicans, etc.


Pssst... I don't give a shit who you vote for. I'm just dosing you with the "medicine" you've given Bernie supporters.

[akbacchus_BC]

28. You do realise that thousands of like minded people go to trump rallies. That is how they are!

Did you see Kamau across America where the KKK said that inter-racial marriage was worst than a murder. Some Americans are ruthless and I never thought that shit still existed.

[Eric J in MN]

30. Bernie Sanders opposes boycotting Israel.

He said that most countries do bad things and singling out Israel to boycott is anti-Semitic.

That's not pandering "to the anti-Israel fringe."

[akbacchus_BC]

37. No matter what you say, the anti-Bernie people will find something to crucify him for!

Just let it be! Mr. Sanders has poured his heart and soul into this campaign to let Americans know that he is with them and if that is not good enough, I have no idea what else he needs to say. An honest politician with no baggage is asking for Americans to support him to realise their dreams! He is fighting for change in America which no other mainstream politician went there.

[Lazy Daisy]

32. Stand by your convictions

it's the best way. Now, can you let the other Hillary supporters know to give the same space to those who feel the same way about Hillary? Or will they say you are a damn fine Democrat while those who won't vote for Hillary are *fill in the blank with offensive name*?

We all do what we think is right.

[CobaltBlue]

35. ericson00—I share none of your positive thoughts on Hillary Clinton—and I support Bernie Sanders.

[seekthetruth]

36. Please do not call yourself a progressive.

An American worldview? Fascist. That's fascism, and it has no place here. Ideas like that gave us slavery, slaughter of indigenous peoples, and Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

I do not want war, therefore Hillary is not my choice. I want to try to repair the environmental impact we've had on the earth. Hillary is unable to lead us there.

You're now a neoliberal. We have nothing in common other than the social issues.

Create a libertarian party.

[leftynyc]

98. Thankfully, YOU don't get

to decide who is and who is not a liberal and it's sanctimonious bullshit to think you have the answer to that question.

[Ash_F]

38. He's not going to steal anything

If Clinton gets indicted or something they will give it to Biden. Don't worry.

[akbacchus_BC]

41. I do not think it will work that way. Biden is not interested in the Presidency.

I have no idea why Mrs. Warren did not run but on hindsight she knew Mrs. Clinton was going to run and did not want to upset the applecart. Gosh, I just hope it is not a trump presidency, then the world would be screwed! That tv personality would be on fauz news as incompetent and then CNN and MSNBC will be fucked for promoting that asshole! Sorry for the expletive, but that is how much I dislike trump.

[Ash_F]

44. Biden knows who is who in D.C. and is an insider

He has been close to Obama these past 8 years. He would reluctantly take over. The party leadership does not want Sanders.

[akbacchus_BC]

47. Ash, you responded to yourself. Just wanted you to know!

[whatchamacallit]

40. A HillyBro

[akbacchus_BC]

43. I think Eric is from another planet, guess which?

[Scootaloo]

42. What a truly weird post

If Bernie were somehow to steal Hillary's rightful nomination, whether or not he truly polls as well as a he does in a general, given never being truly attacked, I could not vote for him.

First off, our language has these things called "paragraphs." The point of a paragraph is to use multiple, separate sentences to convey an idea. You have instead tried to use one sentence to convey many ideas. This is backwards. Stop it.

Second, if Bernie wins the nomination, it's not stolen. We're also a democracy, and do not deal in heirs-apparent. "Rightful" is not a proper adjective in our system of elections and nominees.

Just as I can't vote for Trump, in part because of his disasterous economic plans and extreme protectionism, his lack of experience in government, isolationism, and "neutrality" on Israel/Palestinians, I could not vote for Bernie, who preaches an economic system that could not work in America given its large size compared to Denmark, etc., he barely has been anything more than a congressional apparatchik, also has no foreign policy experience worth talking about, sided with communist evil during the Cold War, and panders to the anti-Israel fringe of this country.

Making one sentence as large as a single paragraph does not make it a paragraph. Nor does it convey information any better. Here, let's break this breathless mess down into compartments.

Just as I can't vote for Trump,

This should actually be part of the previous sentence. "I could never vote for him, just as I can't vote for Trump" is a valid sentence that conveys an idea - a stupid idea, but it's an idea. "Just as I can't vote for trump" is not a valid sentence, unless you're talking about someone you know whose name is "Just as I."

in part because of his disasterous economic plans and extreme protectionism

I'm not certain that you know what these words mean. Maybe you ought ot spend some time making an argument for why you think Sanders' economic plans are "disasterous" (disastrous), or a case for how you come to the idea that he favors "extreme protectionism."

and "neutrality" on Israel/Palestinians,

Having read some of your other posts on the subject, I think it's safe to say that your idea of what is "neutrality" and what is mine are like, radically different. I encourage everyone else to also look up Ericson00's posts on Israel / Palestine. or Arabs or Muslims in particular. Or Jews who don't agree with him. it's quite an exhilarating ride, though most of it is as poorly-formed as this post.

I could not vote for Bernie, who preaches an economic system that could not work in America given its large size compared to Denmark, etc.,

Interesting combination of baseless assertion and non-sequitur there. Don't worry, you have time to google those words up and see what they mean.

he barely has been anything more than a congressional apparatchik

By which you mean he's been a congressman and a senator, yes. Please look up "apparatchik." I know that you think it's a derogatory term, and yes I'm fully aware of the coding you're using. But we're on a learning expedition here. Like I'm Dora and you're Diego.

sided with communist evil during the Cold War

Sometimes, I just have to blink at the shit people say.

and panders to the anti-Israel fringe of this country.

You... really don't know much about bernie's stance on Israel at all, do you? Man. Okay seriously. Take a minute and go look it up. Not from Arutz Sheva or Israel Hayom. Learn shit before you talk shit.

Hillary actually has experience, has an American worldview, and knows economics. If Bernie were the nominee, I stay home, at the least. I bet I'm not alone. Hillary's still winning the popular vote in this national contest by a mile.

So what, all of a sudden you can structure sentences properly? Wow, that was fast!

• Hillary does have experience. However not all experience is a positive. Condi Rice has twice the Secretary of State experience of Clinton, I'm not going to be picking up her resume and giving her a call anytime soon though.

• You may not be aware but there is not just one uniform "American worldview." You're going to have to define what you consider "an American worldview" if you want this assertion to have meaning, beyond being read simply as "murika, fuck yeah"

• I'm not so certain Hillary "knows economics." Again you are going to need to make a positive argument for your assertion to be meaningful.

Lastly, if you want to stay at home, go ahead. I'm sure there are some nice shows on. TiVo the third episode of Season 7 Walking Dead or something. Or vote Trump, if that's what you've gotta do. If you were hoping for someone to talk you down.. .well, shouldn't have used an absolute in your title.

Have a lovely day.

[akbacchus_BC]

45. Oh no, you fell for Eric's bait. He/She is only playing us on DU.

[Scootaloo]

49. Nah, falling for it is getting upset by it

It's more like "I let that moment sit for a second, and I tilt my head like a dog. And then I remember I have something to do, so I right myself..."

[akbacchus_BC]

51. Good for you! I used to get so upset with the negative commentary on Bernie and got banned!

Gosh, I was terrified that I would not be able to comment on DU. Am glad am back to be able to communicate with like minded DUers like you. It is so nice!

[Scootaloo]

57. Lots of practice

At this point in the race, it doesn't really matter. Either Bernie wins by an improbable inch, or he doesn't. So watching all these Hillary people fall over themselves to express how much they hate him is pretty amusing. What, is there an awards show?

[nadinbrzezinski]

60. I am having a blast as well for the same reason

it is performance art.

[merrily]

46. Dear Diary....

[akbacchus_BC]

54. Me too Merrily. The world would be a better place if Mr. Sanders is the nominee.

However, we know the results much to the detriment of poor people whom Bernie was trying to advocate for. You know what, honesty does not matter anymore, manipulation outweighs honesty and rich against poor, there is no contest, especially when the nominee is for the rich. Hope some kind of superior being is looking down on us and eventually enough will be enough! We are screwed as being poor!

[David__77]

52. I can understand that. I will vote for Sanders.

People have different ideas - I certainly understand voting for the person one supports.

[cliffordu]

55. Your vote will be missed.

That Denmark thing you said is bullshit.
Those programs would scale nicely here.
Maybe they should buy you a new script.

[cui bono]

61. "If Bernie were somehow to steal Hillary's rightful nomination"

What, exactly, do you mean by that?

How would he steal it? What makes it her "rightful nomination"? I'm trying to imagine the scenario you have concocted in your head and I'm not seeing it, so what do you think is going to happen?

.

[berni_mccoy]

64. You'll get over the butthurt

[jack_krass]

66. "The sun will come out, Tomorrow!, Tomorrow!'. I sing that to my kids when they

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Have a tantrum realizing they don't have contrrol over everything.

Dont worry, your pantsuit clad hero may still get her chance to come, see, and destroy our world, and even if she doesn't, she'll continue getting rich and fat on sloppy corporate leftovers.

[Hoyt]

71. I'd vote for him in GE, and I like many of his proposals. Just think Clinton gets us there faster

and is better qualified.

[JHB]

72. Is this an attempt at parody?

[mmonk]

73. The New Deal worked a whole lot better than this shit

we've lived under since both parties decided to work for the rich. The only thing Bernie would add would be free higher public education.

[Bad Dog]

74. Because a Trump presidency would be so much better.

There's not enough walls or wars, we need more.

I'm sure Trump is delighted with your sentiments, internecine spats are so much more important than keeping the Republicans out.

[jmousso75]

75. Why I Would Never Vote for Bernie Sanders, Ever

I guess we are even. I will never vote for another "third way democrat" again. No different than voting for a republican.

[HughLefty1]

107. Yep "Third Way Dem" is just another code name for GOPestablishment

It's all the same corporatist, lobbyist, elitist branding. If I cast a vote for HRC I am also voting for every one of the Clinton Foundation corporate donors. I still get to cast my primary vote in CA. All I can say is I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils. Not doing it anymore.

[cali]

76. What is an "American World view"?

I have come to a sad conclusion about Hillary supporters.

[nc4bo]

79. There are many times our "American worldview" is what those outside our borders despise.

So there is also that that sad fact.

[Thinkingabout]

77. The truth is Sanders will not be on the ballot in the GE and since I do not

Live in the same state I will never vote for Sanders.

[bahrbearian]

78. " Hey, everybody look over here, look at me, Look at Me!"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=324694&sub=trans

[Shadowflash]

80. Wait, wait, wait!..........

.........................


Nope, couldn't do it.

I tried to give a fuck about you and your opinion but, alas, I couldn't get there.

[gollygee]

82. "Sided with communist evil?"

Hmmm.

[PowerToThePeople]

83. Or because

You are a freeper troll.

You want me to pull up all your early freeper posts that should have got you ppr'd when you joined last July? I can.

So many of DUs HRC supporters are trolls. Simply amazing what is allowed on this board in the name of the inevitable one.

[LWolf]

84. "rightful nomination."

"steal."

"never being truly attacked."

"could not work."

"apparatchik."

And on an on.

The delusion is strong here. You need help.

[actslikeacarrot]

85. Don't give a shit.

But dammed if a certain percentage of Clinton supporters don't have a wargasm fetish. Jesus.

[One of the 99]

90. If you would refuse to vote for Bernie

and allow Trump to win the election, then you have proven that you have no principles.

[LondonReign2]

92. "Steal her rightful nominiation" BWHAHAHAHAHHA

What a child

[TSIAS]

96. That is your prerogative

I hope Sen. Sanders could earn your vote, but if you choose not to support him I can respect your decision.

[Orsino]

97. Meanwhile, in our timeline...

...Bernie Sanders has been a consistent and effective advocate for liberal principles. And he has no goatee.

[libtodeath]

99. Did I log into free republic by mistake?

[Tom Rinaldo]

103. I think saying every Hillary loss weakens her is much more truthful and insightful

Her problem is that so many people prefer Bernie to her. That is what elections are about. This is how the electorate makes its views known.

[Logical]

104. Why i dont give a shit......

[Iggo]

106. LOL...Thank you! I needed that!