Wow Hillary is not going to break 40%?!??!

[berni_mccoy]

That's pretty bad that her message doesn't reach the working class of the rust belt. She better go back to Wall Street to see if they can get her some more money. Maybe that will help.

[scscholar]

1. It's WV...

so I wouldn't put too much stock in the result.

[Tarc]

2. Wow Sanders is 14% off his target?!??!

That's pretty bad for the rest of the states, as their % just goes up and up!

[berni_mccoy]

5. Tarc tarc tarc tarc tarc...

Always seeing shit for sunshine.

[Tarc]

8. I see the big picture, bro-bro

Nominations are secured with delegates.

[berni_mccoy]

10. You see only what you want

And that's the fantasy Hil has sold you.

[Tarc]

24. How's that pledged delegate hole looking? 285 by tomorrow?

[Renew Deal]

44. The lack of self awareness in your post is too much.

[Craig234]

53. delegates

Delegates are secured (by Hillary) with corrupt big donor money, free national media for 25 years getting low-information Democrats to vote for the name they recognize, and adopting phony progressive policies for the primary season. Congrats on that.

[Tarc]

54. You hit all the buzzphrases on your talking points sheet

[Craig234]

55. So that's how you try to attack the truth

Talk about talking points - throw out a buzzword when you can't answer. No talking points in the post.

[Number23]

27. Yep. They both missed their targets by 1. But when you're leading by damn near 300,

being off by a delegate or 100 doesn't mean nearly as much as some folks want it to.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/delegate-targets/

[itsrobert]

3. That's plenty

Bernie needs 70 percent. It's over.

[Fawke Em]

6. For some reason... I'm not worried.

[Fawke Em]

4. I'm a huge Bernie supporter, but coal country isn't the rust belt.

We're Appalachia.

I live in East Tennessee and spend time in western North Carolina. If you'll look at those heat maps of Bernie v. Hillary votes, you'll see this swath of votes (in the green) that now run up the Appalachian Trail in the South up through West Virginia.

Want to know about us "hillbillies?" We were against slavery. We were against the KKK. We were also considered "less than." We are mostly Irish/Native American. We are the last vestige of union workers in the South. We are FDR Democrats.

[votesparks]

7. What she said

Grew up in East Kentucky. Appalachia Represent!

[Fawke Em]

13. I'm a she. A 46 year old she!

Hillary should be my wheelhouse, but, no. She's too conservative for these times. Incremental fixes won't help climate change.

What part of Kentucky? I want to come up there and help? I'm in Knoxville.

[votesparks]

20. Sorry

Large part of my childhood spent in Corbin, Campton, Louisville. My parents still live in Frankfort, and I live in a displaced Appalachian zone, Dayton, Ohio.

[Fawke Em]

23. Yes! So many people moved from here to Ohio and Michigan to find work when I was a kid.

I only wish my Dad could have lived long enough to see Bernie. My Dad was one of the original CAD-CAM operators in this county. He helped develop the Flip-Fone from the 80s for GTE! He kept losing jobs to NAFTA. He finally got tired of moving and gave up. He took a manager's job at Home Depot for half the pay just to stop moving.

He would have loved Bernie. I know because my step-Mom not only voted for Bernie in Huntsville, AL, but volunteers. It brings her closer to the memory of my Daddy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

32. NAFTA is precisely the nexus that links OH, WI, PA and MI to Appalachia.

and it is the gift that keeps on giving...

[votesparks]

46. Empty homes in my hometown

http://www.lotlinker.com

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. I know, Dayton is not doing well

neither is Flint... or for that matter... the shoe leather industry in the state of Hildago in Mexico. And it is for the same reason. NAFTA.

[berni_mccoy]

9. My father grew up outside Charleston

My Uncle owned several coal mines. WV was the Dynamo for the rust belt, namely Pittsburgh steel.

[Fawke Em]

26. I apologize. I see what you mean, now.

Yes. Northern WVa. people STILL commute to PA to work.

[strategery blunder]

16. When VA seceded from the Union, WV split off and was admitted as a state.

I'm fuzzy on the details, as I've never had a chance to visit the region, but I'm sure an Appalachian DUer will be happy to fill in the blanks.

[NWCorona]

22. Some of my best friends in the service were "hillbillies"

What you say doesn't surprise me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

31. I will add this

if I were the Clinton campaign, I would be worried about the rust belt though. There are some similar dynamics this year over there.

And I will add this about Appalachia. It is the home of the Union movement (most folks do not know the tie of redneck to the union movement), but dang it, they have gotten it with both barrels from both the North and the South for being Scott Irish. Yes I am familiar with that history.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

42. My Sis-in-law says hill folk.

[Zynx]

11. Meh. Obama only got 26% of the vote there in 2008 in the primary. He did fine.

[Barack_America]

34. Remind me who got the other 74% that year?

[Zynx]

50. No one, actually. Hillary got 67%, but it was a protest vote.

They just really didn't like Obama. It wasn't that they liked her.

If we want to get into the game of that she's lost states she won last time, she's also picked up states she lost catastrophically last time.

[msongs]

14. 10% of the vote is for neither bernie nor hillary...but for who? nt

[JoePhilly]

15. So Bernie has taken the lead???

[Barack_America]

19. By a bit. But Hillary is still winning one county...by 18 votes.

[Fawke Em]

29. Bernie just took Charleston..

[JoePhilly]

49. Wow ... he's got the nomination all locked up.

[jillan]

17. 36.8% right now. 60% reporting.

[Jitter65]

18. Really doesn't matter about +4 or 5 delegates for Bernie.

Nebraska proves once again that when there is a primary and not a caucus the only Dems get to vote, Hillary wins hands down.

Remember, the people who are voting FOR Hillary now, will be voting for her in the GE. The people voting for Bernie now as a protest against Hillary will NOT be voting for Bernie in the GE should he win the nomination. It's just a fact and W.VA is only one example.

[Fawke Em]

35. Exactly.

I think it's a measurable example that the rest of the South really wasn't. Most of the South was early and had VERY open primaries. I know my whole neighborhood is still sporting their Bernie gear, but I live in a very unionized side of town.

[morningfog]

21. And may not win a single county. Only leading in one by 17 votes.

[SheenaR]

28. I could be wrong

But wasn't this one of her best states in 2008? My how things change and her supporters now smear the state

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Yes, yes it was

[SheenaR]

39. Wow

67% win to not even carrying a single county.

[Adrahil]

30. And Bernie will STILL miss his vote share target.

Yup. That's how far behind he is, and it got worse tonight.

[Fawke Em]

36. And Hillary is STILL under a criminal investigation.

[Adrahil]

38. LOL. SO predictable.

Can't counter with math, so ATTACK!!!!

[JimDandy]

33. Something is going on with 10% of the total votes.

A Paul T Farrell, Jr. is supposedly drawing a substantial number of the *other* total. Maybe he is really earning them. I don't know because I'm not familiar with the political landscape there. But, WV is using touch screen voting machines, which have been notorious in the past for being so poorly calibrated that votes can get tossed to another candidate whose name is next to the one the voter intended to mark.

[nadinbrzezinski]

48. That happens from time to time

[JumpinJehosaphat]

40. By my count Sanders needs to win an additional 127 delegates above his targets to secure the

Majority of pledged delegates. Very doable!

[Skid Rogue]

41. Doesn't she need to break just 20%...

in the remaining states to keep her win? So, didn't she double what she actually needs?

[litlbilly]

43. Only if you add sd's like the M$M does all the time. And that is wrong.

[onenote]

45. and Obama didn't break 26 percent in W.VA in 2008.

Suggesting that West Virginia isn't a bell weather state. Rather, it is a state in which a woman will handily defeat a black man, and a white man will handily defeat a woman.

Whoo-de-fucking-do.

[GreatGazoo]

52. Bill Clinton won the GE in 1992 with only 43%

Hillary will need someone running third party like Perot did.