2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen Hillary Clinton Locks down the Nomination,
I expect a long line of people more than ready to "hold her feet to the fire." I'm not sure I think much of that image, though, if I think about a woman's feet and a fire. It brings to mind some very ugly pictures I've seen, so I hope that is not an expression that is used in relation to Hillary Clinton.
I fear what we're likely to see in imagery as she begins her run for the general election. We have not done very well with women seeking top leadership positions in this country, and I'm afraid any such fire references are likely to burn out of control. It's a serious concern, I think, and a justifiable one.
I suggest that people come up with another metaphor. Truly.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)TransitJohn
(6,932 posts)I predict any and all criticism of Mrs. Clinton will be labeled misogynistic. It already is.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)I can make suggestions, though, which is what I'm doing. If you object to suggestions, I don't know what to say to you.
But, I have no power over anyone at all.
rock
(13,218 posts)The misogynists deny it.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)HRC the republican light alternative
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Same thing different words. Same responsibility of the people in a democracy.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)a common medieval torture technique. It's an ugly image that I've always disliked seeing, due to its historical roots.
I've always found it offensive when talking about politicians of one's own party, or anyone, really.
Holding people accountable is certainly a valid concept, and is perfectly acceptable and without any references to torture.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)I also believe that he didn't intend us to torture him when he said it.
Although he did refer to torturers as "patriots".
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)I doubt MM has ever had a problem with references to how Clinton held up to her "grilling" in Congress.
This has got to be, without a doubt, one of the stupidest OPs I've ever read on DU.
oasis
(49,401 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)oasis
(49,401 posts)"Clinton Prosperity ll".
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)oasis
(49,401 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Is that a yacht?
oasis
(49,401 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)TimPlo
(443 posts)The stock prices for some large military companies so a decrease in growth. So we need to send troops into Syria ASAP.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)leveled at Hillary in the coming four years, if she wins, will be labeled "mysoginistic" by someone here, whether it is or not, just like so many criticisms of President Obama have been labeled "racist." Yes, some criticisms, particularly by our right-wing friends, obviously are and have been, but I can imagine that word policing will definitely ramp up here in the coming months.
If by "holding one's feet to the fire" is supposed to reference burning at the stake, there were many males whose feet were held to the fire, as well.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Look it up.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)still isn't gender specific, which was my point. To say that we will hold Clinton's, or anyone's, feet to the fire doesn't imply misogyny.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)It's a common idiom. We're talking about someone who aspires to be CiC. I'm sure you're oblivious that your post is inadvertently sexist.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And she will break all her promises?
Boo hoo.
Arkansas Granny
(31,525 posts)Hillary has probably handled more scrutiny of her actions than most, if not all, of her male counterparts.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)When the figure of speech means, "Hold them to their promises".
Typical dishonest Hillspeak.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)Team Clinton is a sensitive bunch. something tells me they're going to have to retreat to their safe space with their binky once that mean old Mr Trump starts in on her. I said "butt hurt" in a post and got it hidden... I posted AN ACTUAL UNRETOUCHED PHOTO of HRC in an Orange Pantsuit and it was hidden. I've never seen a bigger bunch of babies in my entire life.
They better grow another layer of skin real fast or they won't survive the barrage Trump's billions will unleash on Her Majesty. Bernie has never even tried to lay a glove on her, and they act like he shanked her with a shiv in the prison yard...
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Remember the Benghazi hearings? She did just fine.
bvf
(6,604 posts)as doubleplusungood.
What a stupid OP.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)once Trump unleashes his BILLIONS in attack ads on HRC. They have cried like babies over every slight - real or imagined - coming from Bernie, and hasn't even tried to take swing at her.
Trump will have no mercy. Clinton may be tough, but Lord knows her supporters are going to flip out once they encounter real negative campaigning.
And yes, HRC supporters.... It is coming...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)Sivart
(325 posts)This phrase - "holding one's feet to the fire" - has been around and used regularly for my entire life. USED REGULARLY. I am 44 years old.
I have heard this saying in a bazillion different contexts, and not once.....NOT ONCE.....have I ever seen or heard anyone even slightly hint or suggest that using the phrase is or could be considered sexist.......UNTIL NOW.
There is not going to be fainting couch big enough for you guys if she actually wins the presidency.