2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHow do you think Sanders could fit into a Clinton Administration?
Do you think Bernie has a role, or should have a role, and will have a role in the upcoming administration?
If there is some great miraculous change in the cosmos, and superdelegates leave en masse and give him the nod, do you think HRC would, or should, or could have a role in a Sanders administration?
Human101948
(3,457 posts)Are you kidding?
-none
(1,884 posts)Bernie is too honest.
rock
(13,218 posts)But disagree on your opinion: it should be Bernie is a con artist.
-none
(1,884 posts)He doesn't custom fit his speeches to this audiences.
It is the same message for everyone.
rock
(13,218 posts)Is he's still accepting donations from his supporters yet his is a lost cause.
-none
(1,884 posts)You just wish it to be so. Besides, that is not an example of a con job anyway. We are backing an honest politician, Bernie Sanders, all the way to the end Presidency. Hillary has too many legal problems that should be distracting her right now and should drop out before she has to spend all her time in court.
rock
(13,218 posts)He's good.
-none
(1,884 posts)Bernie has a long history of being consistent in his message. He walks the walk.
Listen to him talk. He uses we and us, instead of I, me, I, I,me, me, me, I...
Bernie has the people foremost, not his foundation, which he does not have.
rock
(13,218 posts)In particular, I don't want your vote. (And in fact do not care if you waste it or not.) Sorry.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)the driven snow aint she?!
rock
(13,218 posts)Like most Clinton supporters we don't see out candidate as a god, or a super creature from beyond, or even a perfect human being. But I really do appreciate being referred to by my name. Thank you wendylaroux. What a pretty name.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)polly7
(20,582 posts)gordianot
(15,242 posts)If Sanders was headed for the White House a good retirement job for Hillary.
polly7
(20,582 posts)butchering people and over 1700 different armed groups controlling power, right? And you want Bernie Sanders there why??
Horrible, ugly thought, considering what happened to Chris Stevens.
gordianot
(15,242 posts)I was being snarky my apologies. Nor would I want the person who broke it Hillary to go there.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)I jest. Easy typo to make, but seriously, I think he's fine in the Senate.
Skink
(10,122 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)He's courting average citizen Republicans who are fed up with the batshit craziness that the Republican Party has come to embrace.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)synergie
(1,901 posts)right wing attacks and his ego driven campaign that is growing every more desperate and ever more nasty.
Bernie would need HRC to actually get things done, and we know that she has once stepped up to the plate and would do her duty to help if Bernie should somehow steal the nom at this late stage when the votes and the pledged delegates are against him. He simply has no clue how to get things done or work with his peers in a functional manner. He also flails around badly on foreign policy, and pretty much everyone would have to pitch in to keep him from making a huge mess. Luckily we have experienced adults in the form of former presidents to keep him from going the Trump route, but thankfully he'll never be in charge.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)His donor list and over 10 million voters ensure that. Duh.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)And, B. The attacks we Bernie supporters make on her are from the left. I don't do right-wing attacks because I don't even know what they are. I don't watch Fox News or listen to Limbaugh.
Jackie Wilson Said
(4,176 posts)In fact he is going to steal it if you dont get every living person you know to vote, because if any of the people you do know are not white or are college students, odds are they wont be allowed to vote.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Ignored and quietly disappeared.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)All he has done is marginalize himself with Democrats in the Senate. He has had years to do something meaningful in the Congress and Senate, and he has done nothing except belittle the Democrat party.
cali
(114,904 posts)His 10 million + voters, those confer real power in the Senate.
randome
(34,845 posts)You make it sound like Sanders is the vanguard of some immense political juggernaut. It must be moving at the pace of a glacier if that's true.
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cali
(114,904 posts)His voting record makes me proud. His constituent services are, and have always been, responsive and effective. He's done much more, but you're only interested in engaging dishonestly. I did not make it sound with my as simple presentation of facts and logic like.he was or will be a juggernaut. I stated that his clout in the Congress and his voice in the political discourse will.both be increased.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Gandhi at a Sopranos meeting.
It really wouldn't work.
realmirage
(2,117 posts)Gandhi never tolerated meannes, hatred, negativity against rivals. He damn near fasted himself to death to make people stop attacking rivals. Never put Sanders and Gandhi in the same category. Read your history.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)gracious, humble and compassionate throughout this nightmare-from-Brock-hell Clinton campaign.
Bernie has been accused of being a racist, a sexist, someone who condones the killing of Sandy Hook kindergarteners. Bernie has watched his faithful supporters being mocked and called "Bernie Bros" as a political ploy--just as Hillary coined the "Obama Boys" slur to damage her 2008 opponent.
Bernie has listened to David Brock speak for the Clinton Campaign and say, "Black lives don't matter much to Bernie Sanders"--a sick attack made even before the Iowa caucuses happened and Bernie had a chance to campaign in more diverse states.
Bernie has watched his invitation to the Vatican be attacked, mocked and lied about incessantly--with every lie being debunked by witnesses and Vatican officials who were there.
"Bernie wasn't invited!", "Bernie won't be speaking!", "Bernie will be speaking but only for five minutes before a coffee break!", "There will be no meeting with the Pope!", "The Pope is leaving town to avoid Bernie!" 150 negative threads started on DU alone, spreading these stupid lies.
All debunked--with nothing more than reality playing itself out. So many awful, horrible situations like this!
I would say that Bernie has behaved in a Ghandi-like fashion as he's been dealing with such vile, mean, inhumane behavior.
"I'm sick and tired of hearing about your damn emails." --A kindness from a man who refused to politicize a legitimate FBI scandal--while the Clinton camp pulls the deprived, lying schemes that she has for months!!
Bernie Sanders may not be Ghandi--but he sure as hell has been grace under fire; and he sure has hell has tried to run an issue-oriented campaign because he ultimately cares about people, their problems and this country.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...if the Clinton Administration can become something more than just a Clinton Administration.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)There is nothing Sanders should be doing in a Clinton administration. Endorse her, fine - then get back to work to put a movement out into the workplaces, the campuses and the streets. The ruling class and their prefered candidate ain't giving up nothing voluntarily.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)He'll be writing books, giving speeches.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)nemo137
(3,297 posts)Same with Warren. We need everyone we can in the actual legislature if we're going to accomplish anything.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Sanders said Friday he plans to keep fighting for the Democratic nomination all the way to the convention in Philadelphia, but did not slam the door shut on possibly joining Hillary Clinton's ticket.
Asked by CNN's Wolf Blitzer if he would accept a hypothetical offer to be Clinton's running mate, Sanders said he would talk about it with her after the convention. This from CNN, several other news interviews have similar comments.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)realmirage
(2,117 posts)going full negative against the Democratic Party. He's done.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)Because he knows so many post office names.
FSogol
(45,524 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)bvf
(6,604 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)The differences between batshit crazy conservatives and the America that works for all...that is sanders role now
Blue Meany
(1,947 posts)he would do a good job in cabinet post or as head of an agency. I'd rather see him recruiting progressives for congressional seats under the aegis of "Brand New Congress." My guess is that his "name" and integrity are worth more to a movement now than any appointed position would be. He is 74 years old and while he is driven, I had the impression that he had already said this would be is last term as Senator.
laruemtt
(3,992 posts)you know, to counter her Department of the Corporations.
FSogol
(45,524 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)hootinholler
(26,449 posts)As POTUS.
I don't care if you call it a Clinton Administration.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)consciousness that separates Bernie from Clinton, while others perceive it immediately, without a second thought.
postatomic
(1,771 posts)They aren't too fond of each other.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I doubt he'll even be getting any plum committee assignments.
Turin_C3PO
(14,033 posts)He has a large donor list and millions of backers. He will have more influence than previously (as long as he remains a Democrat).
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I can see him dropping the "D" and becoming an "I" again (as a symbolic protest gesture) and based on his behavior during this campaign, he'll be less likely to receive any plum appointments to any of the prestigious committees. It's clear to me, that based on the fact he managed to receive only ONE endorsement from ALL of his colleagues in the Senate, that he's probably not held in very high regard. (And even that single endorsement was a late-comer and from someone who didn't want to piss off the Bernie voters in Oregon.) Whatever professional goodwill there may have been among his colleagues, it's probably evaporated by now.
NewImproved Deal
(534 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)He may prefer to stay in Congress though.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)JPnoodleman
(454 posts)No idea.
agracie
(950 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)krawhitham
(4,647 posts)Turin_C3PO
(14,033 posts)staying a Senator, maybe chairing a committee of some sort.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)That's my guess to what role he'll play in government after the convention.
Hillary Clinton will not name him for any position, I'm quite sure. He really doesn't have any qualifications for any cabinet position, and she's not going to suggest him for VP. Instead, she's going to go with a popular younger Democrat rising-star. She'd be foolish not to. It's likely to be someone on the progressive side, too - someone Bernie supporters will have a hard time disliking.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)MineralMan
(146,325 posts)The choice will be based on political expediency, as always.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)The moment Sanders took a position in the Clinton administration, millions of emoprogs would be screaming "sellout"...
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)and the destruction of the Social Safety net (among other things)
Codeine
(25,586 posts)He's not qualified for any sort of Executive Branch post.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)fun n serious
(4,451 posts)He has proven he is unfit for any role. No one wants an authoritarian Zealot purist. They're never happy. Do not compromise and do not get anything done.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Just kidding.
(Hope I didn't frighten Wall Street.)
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Demsrule86
(68,643 posts)Bernie has disqualified himself with his behavior and can not be trusted.