2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton courting Republican donors. Trump calling for raising taxes on the rich and businesses...
Nothing makes any sense anymore.
We are at war with Eurasia... We have always been at war with Eurasia.
Democrats are moderate conservatives. Democrats have always been moderate conservatives.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!
mucifer
(23,559 posts)That's the creepy factor.
BTW I don't believe anything trump says about taxing the wealthy and raising the minimum wage.
No good choices.
I will vote for Hillary because I think trump is creepy and unstable.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)All in it together
(275 posts)More reason for her to serve the .01% as she would anyway, only she won't be honest in her run for president and admit her real plans.
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)It is to our benefit that she wins and gets more Democrats elected.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)Republicans who simply change their party affiliation to Democrat do not need to run for office.
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)When we controlled a majority in the house with some less than perfect people or in the minority? When was more favorable change accomplished? And I'm not talking about party changes at all.
w4rma
(31,700 posts)who blocked Obama from passing anything. And those New Democrats cost us our majority in the following mid-term elections.
MaeScott
(878 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)That's the point of politics. Just ask Bernie.
frylock
(34,825 posts)to attract disaffected conservatives?
w4rma
(31,700 posts)They'll keep pushing for more corruption in government and they'll keep blocking progressives from any positions of power in government.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Some folks don't seem to have a problem with that at all.
Renew Deal
(81,869 posts)And why haven't they won already?
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)I'm afraid Bernie may have been our last hope to change course.
Some liberals you guys don't realize how fragile democracy is. You can't have so much concentrated wealth and power. How long do you think the cops, or even the army will put up with it? Someday they may look at a guy like Trump and think it looks like a better deal.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I want to make that party so small you can fit it in a bath tub.
CobaltBlue
(1,122 posts)Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)they probably are indifferent or even support this.
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)because the alternative would be organizing along class lines. And the liberal center is working overtime to crush class based organizing.
The liberal establishment is crushing out class politics in favor of racial and ethnic appeals. It should come as no surprise when the right wing also uses racial and ethnic appeals to organize their voters.
The only thing that can prevent the racial political division and strife is a working class movement that cuts across the racial divide.