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cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:35 PM May 2016

Six Questions

The six questions HRC needs to answer to win the vote of this Citizen - yes or no:

1) HRC, will you reduce US military spending by 10% each year of your first term?
2) HRC, will you reign in Wall Street power by reinstating Glass-Steagall?
3) HRC, will you break up too big to fail big-banks?
4) HRC, will you actively support repeal of Citizen's United?
5) HRC, will you denounce the TTP, TTIP, and TISA and work to repeal all related legislation?
6) HRC, will you use the bully pulpit to openly support and lobby for single-payer health care?

If the answer to any of the above questions is no, then HRC has not won the vote of this Citizen.

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Six Questions (Original Post) cantbeserious May 2016 OP
We would not like the answers so all we'll get is silence now and disappointment later if we fuck up Vote2016 May 2016 #1
Problem with that is - if she said yes, she would be lying. n/t djean111 May 2016 #2
If True - Speaks Volumes About Integrity - Why Would Americans Want A President Without Integrity cantbeserious May 2016 #3
I'm pretty sure there's a "no" to most of those questions Armstead May 2016 #4
If True - Telling And Sad - For America's Future - Why Would Americans Want A Compromised Future cantbeserious May 2016 #5
Are we supposed to answer for her? nt nolawarlock May 2016 #6
This Citizen - Is Waiting For HRC To Respond - To Win - This Vote cantbeserious May 2016 #7
Ah. Do we know what her username is here? nt nolawarlock May 2016 #8
This Citizen Knows That HRC Can Easily Respond Via Corporate Media cantbeserious May 2016 #12
Do you think she's reading your questions? nt nolawarlock May 2016 #14
This Citizen Understands That The Paid Supporters Of HRC On Social Media Are Her Eyes And Ears cantbeserious May 2016 #16
Well, this citizen ... nolawarlock May 2016 #17
This Citizen Thanks You For Your Honesty In Thas Matter - May Ones Conscience Be Clear cantbeserious May 2016 #18
LOL! nolawarlock May 2016 #19
Always - Deadly Serious cantbeserious May 2016 #20
lol. This citizen does not treestar May 2016 #47
Thank You Sharing That One Is Not A Paid Social Media Agent - That They Exist Is Widely Reported cantbeserious May 2016 #48
Please stop posting this lie Silver_Witch May 2016 #30
First of all, it's not a lie. nolawarlock May 2016 #31
Clearly you did not read the post. Silver_Witch May 2016 #32
You're a one issue voter? It happens. Buzz Clik May 2016 #9
bye Tarc May 2016 #10
7th 99Forever May 2016 #11
The answer is no to all those questions. Broward May 2016 #13
If True - Then HRC Has Not Earned The Vote Of This Citizen cantbeserious May 2016 #15
I'm sure she's absolutely devastated. nt COLGATE4 May 2016 #58
Her Devastation Is Not The Concern Of This Citizen - However - The Future Welfare Of The Country Is cantbeserious May 2016 #59
Your concern for the future welfare of the Country has COLGATE4 May 2016 #63
Glad That A Fellow Citizen Agrees Our Collective Future Is More Important Than A Candidates Welfare cantbeserious May 2016 #64
Nope. COLGATE4 May 2016 #65
This Citizen Is Saddened That One Has Had A Change Of Heart cantbeserious May 2016 #66
She will do none of that, n/t JPnoodleman May 2016 #21
If True - Telling And Sad - For America's Future - Why Would Americans Want A Compromised Future cantbeserious May 2016 #22
Because the Clinton Dynasty wants to be established I suppose. JPnoodleman May 2016 #24
Too Sad And True - One Wonders Why Americans Would Want A Future Devoid Of Possibilities cantbeserious May 2016 #26
Surely you "can't be serious" to ask questions like that of that candidate tularetom May 2016 #23
Deadly Serious cantbeserious May 2016 #27
If she does any of the above, she'll cut military spending sarge43 May 2016 #25
If True - Speaks Volumes About Allegiance - To Corporate America And The Military Industrial Complex cantbeserious May 2016 #28
I'm going by her history. sarge43 May 2016 #35
Yes, I do not remember cuts ever coming to big price items. jwirr May 2016 #42
"If the answer to any of the above questions is no, then HRC has not won the vote of this Citizen." DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #29
"We don't care." TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #33
To you, maybe DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #34
Good. That makes a decision so much easier. n/t sarge43 May 2016 #37
No problem. See ya. Enjoy the journey. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #39
Gee puffy socks May 2016 #36
Deadly Serious cantbeserious May 2016 #40
She also needs to say she will fight for a living wage. TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #38
Right On cantbeserious May 2016 #41
It wouldn't matter if she answered them, or if LWolf May 2016 #43
If True - Then Telling Observation About Character - Why Would Citizens Accept Such Duplicity cantbeserious May 2016 #44
You'll have to ask those who do. LWolf May 2016 #45
Thank You For Sharing - Not For This Citizen Either - The Broader Electorate - An Ongoing Puzzle cantbeserious May 2016 #46
Bernie wouldn't cut defense spending 10% each year either. Zynx May 2016 #49
Has Sanders pledged to cut military spending by 40%? (nt) Nye Bevan May 2016 #50
These Questions Apply To HRC - For This Citizen cantbeserious May 2016 #52
Well you said This Citizen would not vote for Hillary unless she pledged to cut military spending Nye Bevan May 2016 #54
This Thread Is About HRC And Not About Others - These Questions Are The Standard For This Citizen cantbeserious May 2016 #55
So either This Citizen holds Hillary to different standards than other candidates, Nye Bevan May 2016 #56
This Citizen Has Stated The Six Questions - A Yes Or No Will Do - What Say You - HRC cantbeserious May 2016 #57
Bernie could not do items 1-3 any more than Hillary could samrock May 2016 #51
Maybe So - It Appears That - HRC Would Not Even Try cantbeserious May 2016 #53
Not enough malokvale77 May 2016 #60
For The 1% - The Agenda Is Always The Same - Enslave The 99% - Enrich The 1% cantbeserious May 2016 #61
HRC - Still Waiting For A Reply cantbeserious May 2016 #62
Still Waiting For A Reply - HRC cantbeserious May 2016 #67
 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
1. We would not like the answers so all we'll get is silence now and disappointment later if we fuck up
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:38 PM
May 2016

by nominating her.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
17. Well, this citizen ...
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:15 PM
May 2016

... thinks that the paid supporters meme is getting old fast. Actually, it was old before its time.

You got me. Hillary pays me a thou a week.



 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
30. Please stop posting this lie
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:52 PM
May 2016

Here is a comprehensive article that will explain it to you if you are not able to read and comprehend what Bernie was writing about.

http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/05/29/410606045/the-bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-explained

Here is an easy excerpt that explains it clearly for you.

"Sanders then goes on to explain his ideas about gender roles and eventually gets at a sharper point — that traditional gender roles help create troubling dynamics in men's and women's sex lives.

"Many women seem to be walking a tightrope," he writes, as their "qualities of love, openness, and gentleness were too deeply enmeshed with qualities of dependency, subservience, and masochism."

He adds that men, likewise, are confused:

"What is it they want from a woman? Are they at fault? Are they perpetrating this man-woman situation? Are they oppressors?"
One way to read the essay is that Sanders was doing (in a supremely ham-handed way) what journalists do every day: draw the reader in with an attention-getting lede, then get to the meat of the article in the middle.


I am sure there are plenty of things you could criticize Bernie for - real things. But going after Bernie for this is article is silly especially since your candidate is married to a man that cheats, lies and has been actually accused of rape by women.

Better find another tact.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
32. Clearly you did not read the post.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:56 PM
May 2016

nor did you read the link and quote or you would understand this is a falsehood. I am sorry that your passion for your candidate has blinded you.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
11. 7th
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:07 PM
May 2016

HRC, when are you going to release your transcripts from your HIGHLY paid Goldman Sachs speeches, now that ALL other POTUS candidates have released theirs? Unless that was just another lie from the lying liar.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
59. Her Devastation Is Not The Concern Of This Citizen - However - The Future Welfare Of The Country Is
Sat May 7, 2016, 10:00 PM
May 2016

eom

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
63. Your concern for the future welfare of the Country has
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:57 PM
May 2016

been noted. It will receive the attention it deserves.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
64. Glad That A Fellow Citizen Agrees Our Collective Future Is More Important Than A Candidates Welfare
Sun May 8, 2016, 12:05 AM
May 2016

eom

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
24. Because the Clinton Dynasty wants to be established I suppose.
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:43 PM
May 2016

She stands for nothing,
Means nothing,
Is nothing.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
23. Surely you "can't be serious" to ask questions like that of that candidate
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

I seriously doubt that she has ever given a direct answer to a question in her life. And especially not anything as clear as any question that requires a yes-no response.

sarge43

(28,942 posts)
25. If she does any of the above, she'll cut military spending
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:44 PM
May 2016

Cutbacks in health care, freeze on pay raises and allowances, etc. Cuts that will screw the troops, but leave money pits like the F-35 in place.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
28. If True - Speaks Volumes About Allegiance - To Corporate America And The Military Industrial Complex
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:46 PM
May 2016

eom

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
42. Yes, I do not remember cuts ever coming to big price items.
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:14 PM
May 2016

Just those things that effect the troops and their families. That is the sad thing about the idea of cutting the military. You never really touch the MIC.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
29. "If the answer to any of the above questions is no, then HRC has not won the vote of this Citizen."
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

We don't care.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
36. Gee
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:01 PM
May 2016

I wonder if you were truly serious about her ever earning your vote?




HRC, will you reduce US military spending by 10% each year of your first term? 10% per year based on what criteria?
That's a ridiculous requirement.
Military budgeting isn't as simple as that. That sounds just like Romney's "cut taxes 20% across the board!" worthless proposal. not to mention it's the Congress that allocates tax payer dollars not the Executive branch.

Per the U.S. Constitution:
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

...All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

...The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States


HRC, will you denounce the TTP, TTIP, and TISA and work to repeal all related legislation?
While not incredibly beneficial to American workers, not having any trade agreements may screw us more than you think . Companies can still trade over seas and still use cheap labor. With the trade agreements labor at least gets a minimum wage and that helps us as well as foreign workers. Like it or not the economy is global. fight for better labor benefits in trade deals ? absolutely. Eliminate them . No way. Reality is corporate America is in place and the standard of living for the 99% is intertwined with it and it's success. We need to change it from within and the only way to do that is by getting Progressives elected even if they aren't the most progressive. .


HRC, will you reign in Wall Street power by reinstating Glass-Steagall?
No and she has stated this. its not the removal of Glass Steagall that created the problem. It is the type of financial securities they are trading and selling them on the markets saying they had no risk.



HRC, will you break up too big to fail big-banks?
I also don't agree that this will stop the systemic risk. Is it legal? It took years to break up Standard Oil and a SCOTUS order. http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/may-15-1911-supreme-court-orders-standard-oil-to-be-broken-up/?_r=0


HRC, will you actively support repeal of Citizen's United?
She already said she would. Hillary Clinton: ‘I would consider’ anti-Citizens United amendment
07/21/14 07:28 PM—Updated 07/25/14 03:20 PM


HRC, will you use the bully pulpit to openly support and lobby for single-payer health care?
She has already stated we need to work from the ACA . That protects the nearly 500,000 employees of the health insurance industry by giving those that will not have jobs working for any government funded program time to find work in other areas as well as build a better system out of the two we already have...the ACA and Medicare. Big changes take time or good lots of people suffer in addition to the ones still suffering from lack of access to health care due to costs.




LWolf

(46,179 posts)
43. It wouldn't matter if she answered them, or if
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:30 PM
May 2016

her answers were acceptable, since what she says can't really be trusted.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
46. Thank You For Sharing - Not For This Citizen Either - The Broader Electorate - An Ongoing Puzzle
Sat May 7, 2016, 08:52 PM
May 2016

eom

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
49. Bernie wouldn't cut defense spending 10% each year either.
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:02 PM
May 2016

I'd be shocked if he actually proposed such a thing.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
54. Well you said This Citizen would not vote for Hillary unless she pledged to cut military spending
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:20 PM
May 2016

by 40%.

So presumably if Sanders doesn't pledge the same thing, This Citizen will not be voting for him either.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
56. So either This Citizen holds Hillary to different standards than other candidates,
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:24 PM
May 2016

or This Citizen will not be voting for anyone in November.

samrock

(590 posts)
51. Bernie could not do items 1-3 any more than Hillary could
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:14 PM
May 2016

Unless the democrats regain the house and get 60 in the senate.. 4-6 she or he can speak all they want, but again nothing can get done without democratic control of congress..

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