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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:06 PM Oct 2012

So, on a scale of 1-10, how confident are you about next Tuesday?

With 10 being certain of an Obama re-election, and 1 being a sense that we're doomed.

I put myself at about a 6 - It's closer than I'd prefer, but the electoral college polling has me optimistic.

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So, on a scale of 1-10, how confident are you about next Tuesday? (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 OP
7 TexasCPA Oct 2012 #1
6 HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #7
My memory is failing me but wasn't Walker always a few points ahead in the polls leading up to that leftylauren Oct 2012 #41
Yes, Walker consistently led throughout the recall campaign last spring BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #74
The Final RCP Average Showed Walker Beating Barrett by 6.6%/nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #86
Don't forget though Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #64
10 madaboutharry Oct 2012 #2
Don't ever say 10 Ter Oct 2012 #6
I don't believe in jinxes. madaboutharry Oct 2012 #42
OK, but how can you be so sure? Ter Oct 2012 #48
Don't be, it's going to be ok! madaboutharry Oct 2012 #73
Karl Rove is GONNA GET YOU Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #108
6 feels right, for now flowomo Oct 2012 #3
10 MichiganVote Oct 2012 #4
9.999 WI_DEM Oct 2012 #5
Having Gov Christie campaigning for President Obama sure is nice! mucifer Oct 2012 #8
+1 krawhitham Oct 2012 #24
7 Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #9
10 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #10
7 - 8 if not for fear of election fraud AndyA Oct 2012 #11
me too n/t renate Oct 2012 #82
8 rug Oct 2012 #12
10 still_one Oct 2012 #13
11 - if that's not obvious by now... Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #14
6 TheCowsCameHome Oct 2012 #15
My confidence meter Summer Hathaway Oct 2012 #16
About 7.29 phleshdef Oct 2012 #17
8. TDale313 Oct 2012 #18
8 Alekei_Firebird Oct 2012 #19
I'm at an 8 chadnky Oct 2012 #20
I'll say 9 octoberlib Oct 2012 #21
8 krawhitham Oct 2012 #22
6.5 mil_5529dem Oct 2012 #23
10 angrychair Oct 2012 #25
9.99999999999999999999 oh hell 10! hrmjustin Oct 2012 #26
9...... SingleSeatBiggerMeat Oct 2012 #27
Since Global warming is irrelevant ... GeorgeGist Oct 2012 #28
10 demOcrat11 Oct 2012 #29
6 Angry Dragon Oct 2012 #30
9.9999 Pisces Oct 2012 #31
Nate Silver has calculated that I am an 8.9 underpants Oct 2012 #32
8.5 leftylauren Oct 2012 #33
7-3/8 tularetom Oct 2012 #34
6 - I just don't trust the machines... kerouac2 Oct 2012 #35
we dont "need" OH or FL which are easiest for them to manipulate. Phx_Dem Oct 2012 #52
I mention Ohio specifically because of the guarantee they made awhile back. kerouac2 Oct 2012 #112
11 morningfog Oct 2012 #36
Why not just 10? demwing Oct 2012 #77
Cautiously optimistic....so I guess 6 davidn3600 Oct 2012 #37
9.5 tweeternik Oct 2012 #38
An easy 9 - thanks to Nate! WestSeattle2 Oct 2012 #39
8.5 ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #40
6 for POTUS, 7 for Senate, 3 for House Fresh_Start Oct 2012 #43
6 nt helpisontheway Oct 2012 #44
8 MFM008 Oct 2012 #45
6.7. But, a lot can happen that swings vote. Hoyt Oct 2012 #46
6 LiberalElite Oct 2012 #47
9. Phx_Dem Oct 2012 #49
6. BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #50
Confident enough to knock doors daily trying to GOTV struggle4progress Oct 2012 #51
5-7 cdb Oct 2012 #53
i like pi. BlueMan Votes Oct 2012 #54
I'd say a 7 to 8... more towards 8. Even RCP has O/B winning. blue-kite Oct 2012 #55
About 8.5.... WCGreen Oct 2012 #56
Seems to be holding at 6.5 PlanetBev Oct 2012 #57
4 trixie Oct 2012 #58
11 Lucinda Oct 2012 #59
8-9 Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #60
9.9 DCBob Oct 2012 #61
From the looks of early voting , I don't think you can stop them from showing up. Ikonoklast Oct 2012 #63
Wow have you just ignored all the EV over the Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #109
Did you ignore the 9.9?? DCBob Oct 2012 #111
There is something else to worry about.... sofa king Oct 2012 #118
11 RomneyLies Oct 2012 #62
10+ for President Obama & I pray his surge knocks people like Bachmann right off their damn thrones Sunlei Oct 2012 #65
4 Obama won't carry Ohio, I hope a couple other sates can put him over. n/t doc03 Oct 2012 #66
Why do you feel Obama won't win Ohio? BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #76
The manufacturing areas of the state have been decimated over doc03 Oct 2012 #78
Damn....Ohio really is a must-win for us. BlueDemKev Oct 2012 #97
8.5 obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #67
7 budkin Oct 2012 #68
I feel like a 7.5 SEMOVoter Oct 2012 #69
At present 6. 7 Third Doctor Oct 2012 #70
8+ quaker bill Oct 2012 #71
10, a freaking 10. I suppose if I'm wrong, I will be very, very shocked. johnnyrocket Oct 2012 #72
10 ncav53 Oct 2012 #75
9 Zoeisright Oct 2012 #79
"We go to eleven." reflection Oct 2012 #80
6 NEDem Oct 2012 #81
9 smackd Oct 2012 #83
I'm As Confident O Will Win As I Was Confident My Heat Would Slap Around The Celtics DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #84
9 ChangeUp106 Oct 2012 #85
I'm feeling nine points of confidence about 303-235. Posteritatis Oct 2012 #87
6.5, cautiously optimistic, but still nervous enough to be taking the ativan tuesday(no lie. :( ) cecilfirefox Oct 2012 #88
8 faithfulcitizen Oct 2012 #89
9.8 sofa king Oct 2012 #90
8.8 flamingdem Oct 2012 #91
In my state 10. Nationwide... I dunno. sakabatou Oct 2012 #92
10 n/t courseofhistory Oct 2012 #93
8 smitra Oct 2012 #94
9 Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #95
8 Rowdyboy Oct 2012 #96
A pitiful SLCLiberal Oct 2012 #98
5- polls are not encouraging. trouble.smith Oct 2012 #99
Huh?? The state polling has been especially strong lately. Bleacher Creature Oct 2012 #100
The states that matter look pretty close to me-Ohio, Florida, and Virginia. trouble.smith Oct 2012 #104
7ish. NCLefty Oct 2012 #101
8.24 Tree-Hugger Oct 2012 #102
4+ rayofreason Oct 2012 #103
Ridiculous TheSlayer Oct 2012 #105
"threats and violence" rayofreason Oct 2012 #110
Bedwetters/nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #114
5 mzmolly Oct 2012 #106
Thanks for playing, folks Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #107
I'm Around JiminyJominy Oct 2012 #113
... 8....... nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2012 #115
I Have Called Every Presidential Election Since 68 Right And I'm Giving Obama A 10/nt DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2012 #116
I'm at an 8. nt. anijh Oct 2012 #117
8, and could grow even higher mvd Oct 2012 #119

leftylauren

(51 posts)
41. My memory is failing me but wasn't Walker always a few points ahead in the polls leading up to that
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:21 PM
Oct 2012

election? I most of us were being overly optimistic trying to read something into those polls that wasn't there.

I think Obama has the polls (electoral college) on his side and it's the other side that is being overly optimistic this time around. Just my two cents.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
86. The Final RCP Average Showed Walker Beating Barrett by 6.6%/nt
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:15 PM
Oct 2012

The polls were off a whopping. 1/10 of a percent.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,446 posts)
64. Don't forget though
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:02 PM
Oct 2012

that a lot people weren't necessarily voting FOR Walker, they were voting AGAINST the recall itself. They had a poll out right after that recall that most people were still going to vote for President Obama. While that number has, of course, tightened, it is promising that the defeat of the recall wasn't necessarily an endorsement of Walker let alone Republicans.

madaboutharry

(40,234 posts)
73. Don't be, it's going to be ok!
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:00 PM
Oct 2012

You'll see! Jinxes, hexes, evil spells, voodoo, and whatever is just mumbo jumbo. The only thing that determines an election is the number of people who vote for each candidate.

Obama is gonna win!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
10. 10
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012

As confident as I was that the Miami Heat would be the 2011-2012 NBA Champions and Team USA would win Gold at the Olympics. Not a doubt in my mind.

I would bet my liver to a Trump million.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
11. 7 - 8 if not for fear of election fraud
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:09 PM
Oct 2012

Private corporations with GOP-leaning ownership developed and built so many of the voting machines in use. If not for that, I'd feel a lot better than I do, but I still think Obama will win because I keep telling myself people really are NOT that stupid.

(Then they prove me wrong!) (Again.)

Edit for correct smilie.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
18. 8.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:11 PM
Oct 2012

Be higher if I weren't concerned about Repug dirty tricks/election fraud. But my gut says Obama's gonna win big.

kerouac2

(449 posts)
35. 6 - I just don't trust the machines...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:16 PM
Oct 2012

I can't see them letting Obama win ohio -- or any close state where they have their machines.

Phx_Dem

(11,198 posts)
52. we dont "need" OH or FL which are easiest for them to manipulate.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:45 PM
Oct 2012

We are in good shape to win w/o OH even though we will win it if they don't rig the machines. I don't think they can steal it this time.

kerouac2

(449 posts)
112. I mention Ohio specifically because of the guarantee they made awhile back.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:56 AM
Oct 2012

I think they're setting their sights on stealing several states to give Romney a bigger "victory," including Ohio. A few hundred thousand flipped votes here and there using their machines, without any accountability or solid proof of wrongdoing. These guys are brazen. Look at their campaign - who would ever think a candidate and campaign built entirely on lies would be in this position. You would think that at some point a candidate should be disqualified for being a cheater... but there are no ref's. Even when their guys get caught destroying voter registrations, they get off... it's shameful.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
50. 6.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

I'm hoping upon hope we are able to pull thru in Ohio, Wisconsin, and Nevada while holding onto to Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Minnesota (which we should). I have NO faith in the voters from Florida or Virginia, and Colorado and Iowa are neck-and-neck.

GET OUT AND VOTE!!!

PlanetBev

(4,104 posts)
57. Seems to be holding at 6.5
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:51 PM
Oct 2012

I'm feeling that Obama might get a boost in the last week, as he is his usual calm, assured self in the face of the east coast crisis.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,446 posts)
60. 8-9
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:55 PM
Oct 2012

I like the polling in most of the swing states and some of the reports regarding early voting, particularly in Ohio. I'm still a little anxious about what shenanigans the Repubs might pull out at the last minute that *might* tip the scales to Romney, as well as this "True the Vote" teabagger group that's supposed to be flooding urban (read: minority) polling places with their minions to mess up the works. Hopefully, they get kicked out or not even allowed to enter in the first place. How what they are planning to do is remotely legal is beyond me.


Overall, I'm pretty optimistic that President Obama will pull off a decent margin of victory. He's got so many routes to 270 EV that Romney would have to be doing much better at this late stage to pull off one of his narrow routes to victory. I just can't envision a total Obama collapse on Election Night and Romney upset. I just can't- absent some serious and widespread vote manipulation. I also don't believe that it will be close enough to trigger a contested election either. My map at 270towin.com, based on current polling averages on TPM suggest around 303 EV: http://www.270towin.com/

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
63. From the looks of early voting , I don't think you can stop them from showing up.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:01 PM
Oct 2012

They'll be there, they see what happened last time they sat on their hands.

Four More Years.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
109. Wow have you just ignored all the EV over the
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 04:21 AM
Oct 2012

past couple weeks? LOL. FL, IA, NC, NV did not get the chicken little memo.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
111. Did you ignore the 9.9??
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:16 AM
Oct 2012

Im just saying if I have any tiny doubt at all... its turnout. We Dems often have a problem with that.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
118. There is something else to worry about....
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:36 PM
Oct 2012

Mitt Romney is a sociopath and if he's set up the criminal half of his operation properly, there is a line of cut-outs between him and the election thieves I think he is contacting this week by visiting "lost" states.

The smart play at this point would be to contact the election thieves and tell them to back off this time, so that their efforts are not statistically identifiable.

But Mitt isn't smart like that. This is the closest he's ever going to get to the White House, and if he's properly insulated, he personally risks nothing by coercing bought election officials into trying to flip a landslide.

With no personal risk, Romney will be inclined to do what's best for himself, since he doesn't actually care about anyone else. Sociopaths never lack audacity, or contempt for the law.

We have to expect this dishonest, malevolent candidate to behave dishonestly and malevolently. That's the part that worries me.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
76. Why do you feel Obama won't win Ohio?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:17 PM
Oct 2012

I realize Ohio isn't a done deal by any means, but why do you feel Obama can't win the state?

doc03

(35,389 posts)
78. The manufacturing areas of the state have been decimated over
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 10:45 PM
Oct 2012

the last 40 plus years most have lost more than half their population. Labor unions have also been decimated and I also sense a lot more enthusiasm for the anti-Obama vote than for Obama. Cleveland was the largest city in Ohio a few decades ago now Columbus is twice its size. Cincinnati and Dayton are Republican strongholds. I hope I am wrong, I didn't think Obama would carry Ohio the last time but we were facing another great depression then too..

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
97. Damn....Ohio really is a must-win for us.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:55 PM
Oct 2012

I mean, yes, I know we can still get to 270 without Ohio, but it will be a VERY tall order. We need to try very hard with our GOTV efforts in Ohio and secure its 18 electoral votes.

Third Doctor

(1,574 posts)
70. At present 6. 7
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:50 PM
Oct 2012

We have a high quality candidate in the President but they are lot of voter who are blind to that.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
87. I'm feeling nine points of confidence about 303-235.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:16 PM
Oct 2012

Call it a seven for the Senate, and a 404 for the House since I haven't been following the polling at that level (though I'm nervous about it).

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
90. 9.8
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 11:27 PM
Oct 2012

This fix is always in when Republicans are around, but they're not close enough to steal it and they'll go to jail forever if they try. You can't flip a landslide.

So the election thieves are going to back off this time, resulting in unexpected success.

And the bad guys will have pissed away a billion dollars, too.




Bleacher Creature

(11,258 posts)
100. Huh?? The state polling has been especially strong lately.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:41 AM
Oct 2012

Almost universally good news. Other than the meaningless national polls, things look positive.

 

trouble.smith

(374 posts)
104. The states that matter look pretty close to me-Ohio, Florida, and Virginia.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:36 AM
Oct 2012

close enough that I have to rate my confidence as a 5-neither optimistic nor pessimistic, just of the belief that this could go either way. I think Romney currently has the momentum too. Obama is best when he has a strong head of steam propelling him forward and I'm not seeing that right now. I think Romney has offensive momentum going into the final week and that's not really a position you want your opponent in at this stage of the game.

rayofreason

(2,259 posts)
103. 4+
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:02 AM
Oct 2012

In the past few weeks I've been driving around NH, OH, NC, and FL (work trips). Seen a lot more Romney signs in yards than Obama signs. Not a scientific sample by any means, but combined with the newest from Gallup (especially early voting)

http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx

there is real reason for concern.

TheSlayer

(25 posts)
105. Ridiculous
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:57 AM
Oct 2012

I suggest you go read Nate Silver on why Gallup is irrelevant...and stupid.

I trust Nate more than I trust anyone out there.

.....and only seeing Romney signs means not one damned thing except that with all the threats and violence coming from the right, a lot of Obama supporters, particularly ones with kids or pets, are not putting their signs up.

My number is 10.

I also think we aren't the only ones who learned from what happened to Gore. To assume Obama will ALLOW this election to be stolen from him is to assume he is naive and powerless and I do not think that about him. I think he is smart and crafty and used to dealing with stupid crooked assed white people. We have the DOJ, the UN, the AFL-CIO have said they will have 1000s of people on the ground and the ACLU...and we have our own computer geeks.

Hand wringing...blech. I think I will change my number to 11.

rayofreason

(2,259 posts)
110. "threats and violence"
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 10:14 AM
Oct 2012

By the way, do you know of anyone who is collecting a catalog of verified acts of violence, threats and vandalism against Obama supporters? I think that it would be a very good project to undertake so that a factual record can be presented.

Regarding the rest of your post, I guess we will see in a few days.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
107. Thanks for playing, folks
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:52 AM
Oct 2012

thought it would be interesting to take the temperature of this place, and see where it stood vs. my own level of confidence

mvd

(65,180 posts)
119. 8, and could grow even higher
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:42 PM
Oct 2012

Love how the swing state polls have been looking. The past few days have eased my worry.

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