2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRather Than Campaign As Liberal Alternative To Trump, Clinton To Run As Smarter Republican
So predictable....
https://shadowproof.com/2016/05/06/rather-campaign-liberal-alternative-trump-clinton-run-smarter-republican/
There is reason enough to be concerned about the Clinton campaigns plans to tack right before outright winning the nomination. But there is even more to be concerned about whether the 2016 general election is between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and Clinton attempts to win by claiming shes a smarter warrior-in-chief, who can be trusted to make better corporate-driven trade deals than the billionaire blowhard, who just so happens to have written a book on the art of deal making.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Also, many of them are right-wingers anyway.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)Because I guarantee you a HRC loss will convince the fence sitters that the 3rd way is a dead end.
If Democrats don't embrace liberalism, who will? We really don't need 2 conservative major parties...
Broward
(1,976 posts)but I do think they'll find a way to blame the Left if she loses.
Yurovsky
(2,064 posts)but those naughty progressives! It's all their fault!
Like this go-round.... Hillary sells out toWall Street and if she loses the election because progressives refused to support Goldman Sachs it's OUR FAULT? Um, did I miss the part where some progressive FORCED her to take all of that dirty Wall St money? smdh....
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)It triangulates either way...
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)In a way they are more disgusting than the candidate. She has been obsessed with becoming president her entire adult life. She honestly can't help herself. OTOH the democratic rank and file had an honest, electable, liberal alternative this year and chose the neocon. If she gets elected, you will not believe the carnage that she and Paul Ryan will inflict on 99% of us.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)with the tail cut off!"
saucy007
(7 posts)She will definitely make a hard right turn as soon as the GE is on
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Is this really a surprise when the 1% own the economy and many politicians from both major parties?
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CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Wow, who is advising Clinton? This is a risky, doomed-to-fail strategy.
Clinton can position herself as a Republican all she wants. The Republicans will never buy it. Has Hillary listened to Fox News or turned on Limbaugh or Hannity in the past five years? No one is more loathed in Republican circles than HRC.
I tell you who would believe that she is Republican-like--half of the Democratic party! We've been telling her supporters this since she ran in 2008!
Indies are another story. The majority of Indies are extreme partisans who feel disaffected and screwed over by the political system. Independents are not "middle of the road." Most are very liberal or very conservative. This is why Hillary has polled so abysmally with Indies. Not many fans of HRC in the Indy camp.
Hillary is now having to reinvent herself as a Republican--because she lied, cheated and treated so terribly the Sanders supporters. Her narcisstic destructive train wreck of a campaign blew up our party and she know half of us won't vote for her.
This "I'm a Republican now" schtick is desperate and sad.
Sanders supporters have been begging Clinton supporters to accept that she has no pathway to the nomination. Other than half of the Democratic Party, she's got nothing. We've been warning about this for months!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)by the Republicans. But what that misses is that the white hot hate for Hillary will far outweigh any Sanders baggage. That's why he consistently polls a double digit winner against Trump.
Also, I think this foray into Republican land is a hare-brained mess.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/07/us/politics/hillary-clinton-republican-party.html
Here's another. Since she was unable to hitch Bernie's group to her wagon, well, that only leaves one other source of votes...to be The Winner.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/07/hillary-clinton-to-form-republicans-for-hillary-group-to-exploit/
Clinton supporters should look very carefully at this information. She is signalling early her "judgement and wisdom". The Independents certainly will...and they make or break almost every election. Good Dems about 1/3, good GOP about 1/3, and the fence sitters/Independents 1/3.
She may get some leaders on her side, but after her years blaming The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, wouldn't count on much grass roots support.
The Independents, OTOH, are leaning Liberal.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)DirtyHippyBastard
(217 posts)surrealAmerican
(11,362 posts)If she is the nominee, it's a no-win situation guilt wise. It makes it hard to make a decision.
fizzlerynx
(13 posts)splat
(2,294 posts)This is by a 20-something Chicago dude who reads other bloggers, publishes discredited rumors and calls it reporting.
Nothing in this post strikes me as true.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Verily, neither is it any "peoplesview"
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)RT, but it says about the same thing.
This seems like the wacky mistakes she made back in 2008. Panic attacks. Not ready for the 3 am call.
senz
(11,945 posts)I found it insightful and thought provoking.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Fer god sakes, man, LET THE WOMAN PIVOT ALREADY!