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Aristus

(66,436 posts)
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:40 AM May 2016

Remember, Remember, 2000, November.

Vote.

Get out and vote.

Nothing is certain.

Nothing is guaranteed.

The people who want Trump to be President will do anything to ensure that it happens. They will riot. They will scream. They will threaten.

But they won't have to do anything of those things if you just stay home.

If your favored candidate didn't get the nod, and you don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils, vote the the lesser of two goods; the candidate who was chosen over your favorite.

If you think 'I survived Bush; I can survive Trump', just remember: a lot of people didn't survive Bush. Not on 9/11, not in the US Armed Forces, not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan, and not the economic crash of 2008. Stop thinking of yourself, and think of others.

Vote.

Remember, remember, 2000, November.

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Remember, Remember, 2000, November. (Original Post) Aristus May 2016 OP
If she is the candidate, then a lot of people won't survive Hillary either. JDPriestly May 2016 #1
well be lucky if Sanders survives MFM008 May 2016 #13
I am nearly that age and can probably walk further than people in their 30s. JDPriestly May 2016 #14
As a Hillary supporter, I disagree with this post auntpurl May 2016 #17
Hillary is 5 years younger, she's turning 69 this Fall. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #24
One of her faining spells TimPlo May 2016 #56
She WILL be the candidate. He won't be able to get 84% of the remaining pledged and pnwmom May 2016 #18
She is a war mongered. We don't need another war. JDPriestly May 2016 #20
He would need 65% of all remaining pledged delegates, including CA and NJ and D.C. pnwmom May 2016 #21
^ This. AzDar May 2016 #51
I'm voting, just not for HER or any other republican. basselope May 2016 #2
Voting the lesser of twork evils is voting evil. KPN May 2016 #3
allowing the greater of two evils to win DonCoquixote May 2016 #54
Everyone voting the nomination… CobaltBlue May 2016 #4
Then, by your reasoning, everyone voting for Bernie pnwmom May 2016 #19
And several other wars AND actually the war in Iraq since he eagerly voted to fund that one. George II May 2016 #37
That is creepy to make such a ludicrous comparison. eom PufPuf23 May 2016 #41
Aristus! sheshe2 May 2016 #5
You can see what my plea for sanity is doing. It's falling on deaf ears. Aristus May 2016 #7
I have not been here much. sheshe2 May 2016 #10
... Aristus May 2016 #30
At least she tried, she didn't sit in the back of the room sulking for 25 years, accomplishing.... George II May 2016 #38
You are so right George. sheshe2 May 2016 #50
I will vote for the good PowerToThePeople May 2016 #6
I'll vote for the Leftist candidate. n/t JPnoodleman May 2016 #8
Very well said. William769 May 2016 #9
Thank you. Aristus May 2016 #31
Kick! sheshe2 May 2016 #11
Of course, I will vote but it won't be for Hillary or Trump. nt Live and Learn May 2016 #12
Aloha, Aristus! Cha May 2016 #15
Cha! Aristus May 2016 #32
Aloha! Cha May 2016 #55
You are missed. nt msanthrope May 2016 #16
Aw, that's nice. Thank you. Aristus May 2016 #33
Kick murielm99 May 2016 #22
Then how about we nominate the candidate who will win from Trump in a landslide? Betty Karlson May 2016 #23
And the prople who want Hillary as the nominee have and will do anything as well pdsimdars May 2016 #25
I remember when Clinton voted for Bush's war. Zorra May 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #27
Yep, I will vote down ticket Duckhunter935 May 2016 #28
The Supreme Court. wildeyed May 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #46
Apparently, not wanting Trump to be President makes me an asshole. Aristus May 2016 #34
I will never forgive nader Gothmog May 2016 #35
+1 SunSeeker May 2016 #48
How could I ever forget... lunamagica May 2016 #36
Great post, thanks! George II May 2016 #39
My husband nearly got his head blown off in Iraq. AwakeAtLast May 2016 #40
K&R! DemonGoddess May 2016 #42
Remember for sure! brer cat May 2016 #43
Please remember 2000 when Gore failed to unite the party and made unity impossible with his VP pick Vote2016 May 2016 #44
Al Gore chose Joe Liberman. (Gore deserved to win…why?) CobaltBlue May 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #45
I'm still trying to survive all of them.Obama included.Things have wendylaroux May 2016 #52
I'll remember! SunSeeker May 2016 #49
Remember, remember, 2000 November / Vote-stealing, treason, and plot. nt villager May 2016 #53
Great post. greatlaurel May 2016 #57

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
1. If she is the candidate, then a lot of people won't survive Hillary either.
Sat May 7, 2016, 12:42 AM
May 2016

If Hillary is nominated, the choices will be different this time.

A lot of Bernie supporters are veterans of the Bush years. We all learned a lot about compromising.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
17. As a Hillary supporter, I disagree with this post
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:29 AM
May 2016

The energy of BOTH our candidates has astounded me.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
24. Hillary is 5 years younger, she's turning 69 this Fall.
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:41 AM
May 2016

Want to make a lot out of that? And he's a former track star in great shape while she has some known medical issues. Want to bring those up?

 

TimPlo

(443 posts)
56. One of her faining spells
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:26 PM
May 2016

Was caused by a blood clot. She is now on Coumadin a blood thinner. Is is reason why we did not see much of them hitting him for his age. If Clinton was in better health Brock would went after him like mad. I mean the Clinton Surrogates actually lied about Sanders being indifferent to African Americans because he is white Jewish person and the called him racist.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
18. She WILL be the candidate. He won't be able to get 84% of the remaining pledged and
Sat May 7, 2016, 04:58 AM
May 2016

unpledged delegates.

And Hillary will be light years better than Trump.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. She is a war mongered. We don't need another war.
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:06 AM
May 2016

We shall see what percentage of the votes in the coming elections Bernie needs and will get. I think it is more like 65% needed. He could easily get that in Oregon and the big one, California.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
21. He would need 65% of all remaining pledged delegates, including CA and NJ and D.C.
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:19 AM
May 2016

and all the other states -- just to catch up in pledged delegates. Other than Vermont, can you name any primary where he has carried 65% of the delegates?

And there are still 719 supers, and he only has 39 of them.

KPN

(15,647 posts)
3. Voting the lesser of twork evils is voting evil.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:00 AM
May 2016

The biggest most profound scam perpetrated on Americans by their political system of all time.

It's time to break that cycle ... time to challenge dogmatic solutions that haven't been working. Time to cast aside the bonds of familiarity and embrace the challenge of making real change. Sure there is risk, but the consequences of not taking that risk are worse.

 

CobaltBlue

(1,122 posts)
4. Everyone voting the nomination…
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:11 AM
May 2016

… to Hillary Clinton is legitimizing George W. Bush and his war in Iraq.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
19. Then, by your reasoning, everyone voting for Bernie
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:01 AM
May 2016

is legitimizing the NRA and the murders of the CT schoolchildren.

If Hillary is responsible for Bush, then Bernie is responsible for the NRA.


sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
5. Aristus!
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:19 AM
May 2016

My dear friend.

I vote Hill. I have a nephew that supports BS. His wife supports Hill. Four years married, New baby girl. In the end he will vote Hill for the sweetest child you have ever seen. He will vote for a woman's future. He will vote for sweet Callie.

Thanks, Hillary 2016. We got this.

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
7. You can see what my plea for sanity is doing. It's falling on deaf ears.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:25 AM
May 2016

No one was more disappointed over Hillary's Iraq War vote than I was. But she apologized, I accepted, and moved on. The BernieBots are in such a snit they'd rather have an openly war-mongering Donald Trump for President than vote for Hillary Clinton.

I think the fact that being comfortable with a President Trump abrogates everything Bernie stands for, and is living proof that there is some troll DNA in their gene pool...

Sheshe2, my dear and loving friend (sorry, polished off an entire bottle of Garcon Argentinian Malbec this evening...) I'm voting for Hillary Clinton proudly and without a qualm. And I hope to see you here celebrating on Election Day...

sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
10. I have not been here much.
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:55 AM
May 2016

Alert stalked out of here for the last 6 months. Back with Skinners amnesty, I stay pretty quiet.

Am I pleased with everything Hill did, no. First and best. She and Obama settled their differences. I respect that, I was always an Obama girl, yet love what they have become together. Her vote, that was a troubling time, yes, she apologized. There is another that has never apologized for their gun support nor their F35's built in their state. I find that disturbing.

Yes. I will be here on election day, we will celebrate! Madam President!

Love you.

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. At least she tried, she didn't sit in the back of the room sulking for 25 years, accomplishing....
Sat May 7, 2016, 05:06 PM
May 2016

....virtually nothing.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
6. I will vote for the good
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:21 AM
May 2016

that may very well be a write in or other candidate.

We will see come the convention.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
23. Then how about we nominate the candidate who will win from Trump in a landslide?
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:36 AM
May 2016

That would be Sanders .

We have superdelegates for a reason: to prevent unsuitable candiadates like Clinton from ruining the election by gaming the primaries.

Response to Aristus (Original post)

 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
28. Yep, I will vote down ticket
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:25 AM
May 2016

She is corrupt and will has not earned my vote. Her supporters have not helped.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
29. The Supreme Court.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:51 PM
May 2016

Don't forget that Citizens United and the gutting of Voting Rights would not have happened with the Gore picks.

Response to wildeyed (Reply #29)

Aristus

(66,436 posts)
34. Apparently, not wanting Trump to be President makes me an asshole.
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:59 PM
May 2016

I'd call that 'Bernie-Logic' except I have too much respect and admiration for him to defame him like that...

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
44. Please remember 2000 when Gore failed to unite the party and made unity impossible with his VP pick
Sat May 7, 2016, 07:18 PM
May 2016

Hillary seems destined to follow the Carter, Gore, Kerry model and isn't likeable or trusted enough to follow her husband's model.

Response to Aristus (Original post)

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
52. I'm still trying to survive all of them.Obama included.Things have
Sat May 7, 2016, 09:45 PM
May 2016

not gotten better for alot of us.h will not help either.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
57. Great post.
Sat May 7, 2016, 11:34 PM
May 2016

I know people who have died thanks to the GOP policies. Appalachia has been devastated by the GOP. Things were improving here during Bill Clinton's presidency. Hillary's plans for Appalachia will bring relief to Appalachia, whether they vote for her or not.

Thanks for your wise words. The posters who reject your message are either fools, trolls, or both.

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