2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFormer top McCain aide: I’ll vote for Clinton over Trump
Mark Salter was for years McCains closest aide, serving as strategist, speechwriter, Senate chief of staff and biographer to the 2008 Republican presidential nominee. But now, Salter says hell break with the Republican Party if it nominates Trump and vote for Clinton instead.
Basically, I think shes the more conservative choice and the least reckless one, Salter told MSNBC in an email. [Trumps] policy views are like some drunks rant. If he tried to do anything like he says he will, wed have no allies, a lot more enemies, and more of them with nukes. Finally, hes unfit for the office, too, temperamentally and morally, a narcissistic bigot.
Salter is hardly alone among Republican operatives and policy hands expressing disgust with Trump.
But he may the highest profile one yet to say hed support the likely Democratic nominee instead.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/former-top-mccain-aide-ill-vote-clinton-over-trump
DSB's Notes - This is an infinitely more impressive endorsement than the Republican gentleman or lady some anonymous poster met at a Ralphs checkout line who said he or she is voting for Bernie.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Botany
(70,567 posts)Please tell us how you really feel.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)John McCain has a moral dilemma.
Botany
(70,567 posts)unqualified (he is batshit crazy) ... how can you look in the mirror w/that hair and his raccoon eyes from his googles
that he wears tanning and walk away and say, "Now that is a good look."
asshole ... Trump made fun of a NY Times reporter because of his disease and how it made his arms look
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)There is a quote that says when you have a lot of money everybody says you are handsome and dance well...
Anybody else with his absurd comb over and spray on orange tan would be dismissed as absurd.
dubyadiprecession
(5,720 posts)Hell, If Hillary plays her cards right, she could win everything barack did plus Mississippi and Utah.
Botany
(70,567 posts)piss off both women and hispanics and Texas becomes a tough race to win
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)She'd have this in the bag.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Peeps can't have it both ways.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)videohead5
(2,181 posts)When they were in the Senate together.no Republican even came close..she is still a progressive.
moriah
(8,311 posts)Even the IBTimes warn that while Trump is promising everyone a tax break, he can't bankrupt the country like he has his companies.
Republicans succeeded with one celebrity before, but Donald Trump is no Ronald Reagan. And if Hillary doesn't use that line against him should he invoke Reagan during the debates, Ill eat my hat.
hibbing
(10,107 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I wouldn't vote for McCain if someone stuck a stick of dynamite in my rectum but when did he make a race baiting speech:
hibbing
(10,107 posts)Statements like that and others that were meant to make him seem like he's not American. Could be my interpretation, and I have seen the video you posted before. However, it also says a lot where a supporter in his crowd would say that. Also, remember the video of the smarmy guy walking around with a stuffed monkey at one of McCain's rallies?
Peace
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)He attracted racist yahoos because he was running against a black guy but when they made racist remarks he invariably called them out.
Also, when Sarah Palin wanted to go nativist on Barack Obama and attack him for his association with Reverend Wright John McCain stopped her.
I don't like his politics, one little bit, but he has always kept his difference with the president political.
hibbing
(10,107 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)You agree?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I can't imagine him having access to the nuclear codes. He could drop the big one on Mexico. Just no.
bunnies
(15,859 posts)Trump would be the most impotent POTUS ever. *cringe*
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)I really hope I'm wrong though.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)About public spending than trump and his wall. Also about balancing budgets.
Trump wants this super expensive wall plus huge tax breaks
Also if conservative mean not making sudden radical change, hrc is articulating a vision of building on obama's achievements rather than creating a new system
k8conant
(3,030 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Something one would expect to find written on a napkin at McDonalds or some other fast food restaurant and left with the assorted other trash on the table.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Something one would expect to find written on a napkin at McDonalds or some other fast food restaurant and left with the assorted other trash on the table.
Nice ad hom
I have been insulted by better men. As to your cryptic allusion to McDonalds what happens when the dog catches the bus?
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)cstanleytech
(26,317 posts)ailsagirl
(22,898 posts)I am quite frankly surprised that there is such a hue and cry from repukes (nearly all) re DRUMPF
I would have thought they'd support anyone who ran on their ticket.
Wow, so they really have limits?
cstanleytech
(26,317 posts)What I dont understand though is how they can pretend with a straight face to be shocked that someone like Trump won the nomination considering it was bound to happen eventually when you think about the voters they have largely been courting and relying on as their base.
ailsagirl
(22,898 posts)This debacle has been coming for some time but the repukes just ignored it. I'm surprised, frankly, it's taken this long for their party to implode-- and I can't think of any other word to describe it.
People have been saying for years the repugs are overextending themselves-- and they ignored the danger signs (because their belief is, if you ignore something, it can't affect you). Just my guess, but it's difficult to know what really goes on in their shrunken little brains.
ailsagirl
(22,898 posts)Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)The Republican in the Ralph's checkout line may have voted for some bad politicians, but they don't have any real power and are relatively harmless.
A Republican who is a top advisor to a powerful US Senator has his hands near the levers of power and he is not harmless, he is among the group of people who have been destroying this country.
You may be more impressed by a person who has done real harm to this country, I am more impressed by the common citizen in the checkout lane.
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basselope
(2,565 posts)Not an "endorsement." as this poster claims.
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NNadir
(33,541 posts)...at the top.
Many people voted for Obama who otherwise might have voted for McCain because they were terrified at the possibility that McCain would die in office.
I would personally love it if McCain died (metaphorically) at the polls in the 2016 Arizona Senate election. This seems possible, since his Democratic Opponent is working hard - quite wisely - to place the Trump albatross around his neck.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)He should not run for re-election and campaign against Trump. Why does he need the job? To some he is a hero. He could become an historical figure of he repudiated Trump.
andym
(5,445 posts)So many conservative and moderate Democrats despised McGovern's progressive pro-peace platform in 1972, that many in the party turned their back on him and declared for Nixon. Why? They didn't want McGovern to define the party, just as the GOPers don't want Trump to redefine their party.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)Hillary is the best Republican on either ticket. That you would call this an "impressive endorsement" is unreal, right up there with lauding Kissinger's Hillary-love.
And yet Bernie supporters are called not "real" Democrats