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Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:32 PM May 2016

Bernie Sanders holds press conference in Washington, D.C (5-1-16)

This is an outstanding example of a strong leader.

He goes over numbers, delegates, and how he is stronger in all polls, and every state, with respect to Clinton. This is the information superdelegates need to hear.

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Bernie Sanders holds press conference in Washington, D.C (5-1-16) (Original Post) Gregorian May 2016 OP
Rock on Bernie! KPN May 2016 #1
His analysis of his delegate situation is delusional. Zynx May 2016 #2
Hillary Clinton hasn't yet been subjected to a constant barrage of Republican attacks yet either. bjo59 May 2016 #4
She's been subject to constant republican attack for nearly 24 years nt. Trenzalore May 2016 #5
That. Is. Bullshit. She's been the target of right wing smears since I was 6 years old. Zynx May 2016 #6
she has- and many have come from or been repeated by SBS supporters. bettyellen May 2016 #18
He does better with independents than Hillary does. DLnyc May 2016 #20
It will once he's attacked for the absurdity of his positions. Sanders is our Kasich. Zynx May 2016 #21
Okay, than why has Sanders been doing better and better as he has gotten more exposure? DLnyc May 2016 #22
The flip side is that the more people see Hillary mindwalker_i May 2016 #26
Rock on, Bernie! kgnu_fan May 2016 #3
I'm confused; I thought Sanders was all about ISSUES brooklynite May 2016 #7
The Hillary group will probably explode over this. KPN May 2016 #8
Nothing makes us explode anymore. It's over. nt stevenleser May 2016 #13
Certainly not enthusiasm for your candidate. Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #15
Did he say how the candidate with 3,000, 000 less popular votes wins ? DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #9
Righto! So Bernie gets to stay to the last Peace Patriot May 2016 #17
He has every moral right to run as long as he wants. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #19
... SidDithers May 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Skwmom May 2016 #11
So, he is basically asking the establishment to ignore the voters and hand him the crown lunamagica May 2016 #12
No, it would be a junta. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #14
"This is the information superdelegates need to hear" Tarc May 2016 #16
He says Hillary will not get to 2383,but he will even though he is trailing her. asuhornets May 2016 #23
This is a money raising scheme IMO nt fun n serious May 2016 #24
And gladly given to Bernie whatever... Peace Patriot May 2016 #28
it's hard to accept second place. i feel bad for him. nt La Lioness Priyanka May 2016 #25
Tell 'em, Bernie! pacalo May 2016 #27

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
2. His analysis of his delegate situation is delusional.
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:40 PM
May 2016

Also, his poll numbers in the GE are no more legitimate than Kasich's. He hasn't been subjected to the constant barrage of Republican attacks. Once he is, that advantage would vanish and, I believe, turn into a deficit.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
4. Hillary Clinton hasn't yet been subjected to a constant barrage of Republican attacks yet either.
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:46 PM
May 2016

If she ends up in the position where that will happen, it should be interesting to watch.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
20. He does better with independents than Hillary does.
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:41 PM
May 2016

This has been clear and consistent throughout the primary season. In states that allow independents to vote, he does better than she does. This is the reason he does better against Trump and other Republican candidates.

I think it would be a lot smarter to go into the general election with a candidate who does well with independents (who make up 42% of the eligible voters) than to go with one who does poorly with independents.

Dem candidates win Dem votes, Rep candidates win Rep votes. The decisive factor in the general is who gets the independent vote. Bernie does, Hillary doesn't. It is not rocket science, it's very straightforward.

The independent vote today, IMHO, can be better understood as anti-establishment (and hence not wanting to be associated with either established party) than as a sort of "middle-of-the-road" group which is between left and right. I say this because independents are supporting Bernie, which makes me think that they are, in large measure, more anti-establishment than centrist.

Long story short, the poll numbers are highlighting a very strong and important factor, namely the independents. And that reality is not likely to fade away any time soon!

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
21. It will once he's attacked for the absurdity of his positions. Sanders is our Kasich.
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:42 PM
May 2016

Both of them have greatly inflated numbers due to relative lack of exposure.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
22. Okay, than why has Sanders been doing better and better as he has gotten more exposure?
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:53 PM
May 2016

Have you seen Kasich on a lot of talk shows? Is he regularly parodied by comics? Do most people know where he lives and make fun of how he says "yuuge"?

I don't think the "lack of exposure" argument really holds water in the case of Bernie Sanders, honestly.

And, although I'm sure many people consider his positions absurd, I think many more, including myself, millions of voters, and practically everyone who lives in developed countries other than the United States consider Sanders' positions to be basic common sense, just as we in this country overwhelmingly thought back in FDR's time.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
26. The flip side is that the more people see Hillary
Sun May 1, 2016, 08:32 PM
May 2016

... the lower her numbers drop. DWS knew that would happen too, which is why there were originally only 6 debates.

KPN

(15,646 posts)
8. The Hillary group will probably explode over this.
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

They probably already have.

They'll make a stink about him not bowing down and going after Supers. But the truth is he's just showing leadership with conviction and integrity. They won't get that though ... how could they when they see Hillary as a world leader?

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
19. He has every moral right to run as long as he wants.
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:40 PM
May 2016

He has no moral right to overturn the will of the people. That's what despots do.

Response to Gregorian (Original post)

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
12. So, he is basically asking the establishment to ignore the voters and hand him the crown
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:12 PM
May 2016

Now, this would be a coronation.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
16. "This is the information superdelegates need to hear"
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:29 PM
May 2016

So after months of complaining about the unfairness of the superdelegate system, you now want them to vote for him regardless of who secures the most pledged delegates heading into the convention?

asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
23. He says Hillary will not get to 2383,but he will even though he is trailing her.
Sun May 1, 2016, 07:58 PM
May 2016
He was against the superdelegates before he was for them. I'm befuddle by his press conference..He reminds of John Kasich who called a press conference Friday only to say he is staying in the race... Kasich absolutely has no chance-he only won one state.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
28. And gladly given to Bernie whatever...
Sun May 1, 2016, 09:37 PM
May 2016

...he decides to do. That's how much I'm with him, as to his honesty and integrity, and that's how much I'm with the revolution he is leading.

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