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Sanders Warns: Republicans Will Go After Hillary on Clinton Foundation (Original Post) Bernie93 Apr 2016 OP
Republicans often go after the democratic candidate. Agschmid Apr 2016 #1
In Hillary's Case It Will Be A Fussilade! Especially When You Consider Stuff Like THIS! CorporatistNation May 2016 #14
Yah I'll wait for those charges to actually happen. Agschmid May 2016 #17
Wow. She has clearly studied under the Parser in Chief! dchill May 2016 #29
You need to research Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing emulatorloo May 2016 #61
That video link is down. Is there another? (n/t) thesquanderer May 2016 #87
The DoJ should. artislife Apr 2016 #2
That's not new. Bring it!! Jitter65 Apr 2016 #3
I'm sure GOPers appreciate Sanders helping to spread that BS. Hoyt Apr 2016 #4
Watch the video; he didn't initiate the subject. pacalo May 2016 #28
Really Demsrule86 May 2016 #55
I watched the video again Demsrule86 May 2016 #66
Quit dragging Sanders into Clinton's scandals. She is the one responsible for the unseemly silvershadow May 2016 #41
Not our problem she happens to be corrupt. Katashi_itto May 2016 #43
Its like you guys have stolen the GOP handbook. Aren't you democrats? Spacedog1973 May 2016 #51
The real question is are you guys? Supporting such a candidate. Katashi_itto May 2016 #57
Its not the 'real question'. Its 'your' question. Spacedog1973 May 2016 #60
Bwhahahah! Thanks for answering my question. Katashi_itto May 2016 #63
I don't think you understand politics very well Spacedog1973 May 2016 #77
Yes yes, usual smug condescending talking points you dish out. One would swear you have a database Katashi_itto May 2016 #83
Thats sweet Spacedog1973 May 2016 #85
Ah now we are to condescending. Katashi_itto May 2016 #86
Here we go Spacedog1973 May 2016 #88
Bernie's not a Democrat, he just plays one on TV. procon May 2016 #74
with friends like that Demsrule86 May 2016 #53
Is there anyone who believes Sparkly Apr 2016 #5
I honestly don't think there's any there there. grasswire May 2016 #8
^This. nt silvershadow May 2016 #12
Doesn't matter. Sparkly May 2016 #27
This isn't making shit up pinebox May 2016 #49
Dangerously deeply corrupt yourpaljoey May 2016 #59
Obama was square too. musicblind May 2016 #32
The made-up stuff didn't bring Obama down Qutzupalotl May 2016 #34
They won't have to make stuff up on Clinton Skink May 2016 #40
This isn't making shit up pinebox May 2016 #50
Especially the lying thing -- Bernie has a reputation for being very honest Samantha May 2016 #35
excellent point grasswire May 2016 #39
That's probably why they can't seem to stop him. He's not on the take, so they have no silvershadow May 2016 #42
That is not the reason Demsrule86 May 2016 #58
So lets just run head long into the fucking fire madokie May 2016 #45
He is late to the Game, his BS's surragagtes have been at it for weeks Sheepshank Apr 2016 #6
The best stuff against Hillary remains unused. Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #7
that's true. grasswire May 2016 #9
All lies creeksneakers2 May 2016 #10
Unfortunately, it is not (eom) Samantha May 2016 #36
Trump is salivating and ready. 840high May 2016 #15
quite clever, actually grasswire May 2016 #16
You are exactly right! And they keep taking it further and further, incrementally you could say, DebDoo May 2016 #72
yes! grasswire May 2016 #78
The Clinton foundation Demsrule86 May 2016 #65
Republicans will come after any candidate KingFlorez May 2016 #11
Lol, againg with the rape paper... northernsouthern May 2016 #13
The median voter isn't going to buy that excuse about the essay KingFlorez May 2016 #20
The median voter buys the "40 years ago" explanation. morningfog May 2016 #22
Yes, the median voter is not that stupid... northernsouthern May 2016 #26
He didn't say that Trump wouldn't lay a hand on him! Stop putting words in his mouth! Seeinghope May 2016 #18
Trump has a whole history of racism, sexism, questionable business practices, etc KingFlorez May 2016 #23
"The rape essay" sounds like the way a Republican would characterise it. Seeinghope May 2016 #21
If the shoe fits... morningfog May 2016 #24
It is what it is KingFlorez May 2016 #25
Except when it comes to Clinton. Kentonio May 2016 #44
You know when someone has to reach back 39 years to find something controversial about Sanders Samantha May 2016 #37
And then there is Trump University Zambero May 2016 #19
If Trump's opponent is Hillary... dchill May 2016 #30
Trump has murdered his standing in the Latino community Zambero May 2016 #47
Because republicans would never say anything about Bernies ties to the Soviet Union, Debs, and other Renew Deal May 2016 #31
Sanders is getting desperate. LiberalFighter May 2016 #33
Sanders is coughing and sputtering to the end of the line. underthematrix May 2016 #38
I think he'll still be campaigning next year. grossproffit May 2016 #62
He'll be running for Senate in 2017 as an Independent underthematrix May 2016 #76
thanks madokie May 2016 #46
WHen they say 'shes been vetted' they are refering to the 90's and 2008 Ferd Berfel May 2016 #48
EXACTLY!!! grasswire May 2016 #79
Really and Sander is supposedly on the Democratic side? Demsrule86 May 2016 #52
Sure. Trump has already said he got some great material from Bernie. wyldwolf May 2016 #54
Nothing new...been tried before...beside trump is 100x more vulnerable beachbumbob May 2016 #56
Bernie brought up the Clinton foundation Demsrule86 May 2016 #64
BS has become boorish. I used to like him, not so much any more. grossproffit May 2016 #67
I agree Demsrule86 May 2016 #68
Indeed he has just hit a new low. BootinUp May 2016 #70
a "humanitarian organization" the expends only 10 percent of its revenue.. grasswire May 2016 #80
I know you are NOT a stupid idiot so that means you just enjoy BootinUp May 2016 #81
refute it, then. nt grasswire May 2016 #82
Like you care. nt BootinUp May 2016 #84
Really, Bernie! Ya don't say! Well there's a shocker! (Quick get my smelling salts!) NurseJackie May 2016 #69
awesome video Demsrule86 May 2016 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Jitter65 May 2016 #71
I'm shocked so many Democrats back the most disliked and mistrusted candidate with a closet full of Vote2016 May 2016 #75
they're literally okay voting for someone knowing they don't know what they actually stand for MisterP May 2016 #89

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
14. In Hillary's Case It Will Be A Fussilade! Especially When You Consider Stuff Like THIS!
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:15 AM
May 2016


At 2:37 Look for Hillary to admit that she understands "how" emails get on the government system... This proving "how" they ... DO NOT as well... Which is her major problem with the private server... Leading to possible even likely charges of... ESPIONAGE... per Washington, D.C. atty Joe Degenova last week.

dchill

(38,493 posts)
29. Wow. She has clearly studied under the Parser in Chief!
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:47 AM
May 2016

That's some serious "what is is" action right there!

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
61. You need to research Joe DiGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:53 AM
May 2016

They are extremely partisan Republicans who have a long history of lying about Democrats. They have never been correct about anything in their lives.

Here's a link:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Victoria_Toensing

Republican partisan

"Toensing is, of course, not only a pricey DC defense lawyer. She's also a professional Republican, one tightly connected with the DC GOP power structure, and someone you could find at pretty much any point in the late nineties as an anti-Clinton 'legal expert' on every chat show under the sun," Joshua Micah Marshall wrote January 1, 2004, at Talking Points Memo.

"Joe DiGenova (as well as his wife and law partner Victoria Toensing) is a part of the DC Republican establishment who is routinely put forward when legal opinions are needed which exculpate Republicans or inculpate Democrats.

"There's no other way to put it. Look at their public statements in the various Clinton 'scandals', the Fitzgerald investigation and now this case. In their voluminous public pronouncements they are both, in the clearest sense of the word, advocates. And their 'client' is the Republican party establishment in Washington, DC. That's fine, as far as it goes. But they should be identified as such, albeit perhaps in gentler terms, when they provide quotes in papers like the [Washington] Times," Marshall wrote November 25, 2005, at Talking Points Memo.

---------------------------------------------------

Best way to approach DiGenova is to beleive the opposite of what he is saying. He isn't credible.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
41. Quit dragging Sanders into Clinton's scandals. She is the one responsible for the unseemly
Sun May 1, 2016, 05:48 AM
May 2016

position she is in. Sanders is owed a debt of gratitude he apparently will not get from this party for giving her some shade while she sorts out her legal troubles.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
60. Its not the 'real question'. Its 'your' question.
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
May 2016

And its weak. You know as well as everyone, that Barnie is a Democrat for expedience only. What does that make you? A Democrat for expedience only as well? You don't get to define what a Democrat is. You are an outlier. When Barnie retires from the race (and given his age he should retire, period), you have no political friends, no political home. You are an independent. Go find a party that meets your extremist naively political views or if there are enough of you, create your own party to form.

Ron Paul is waiting patiently. I'm sure your movement with shake up the status quo and be hugely successful.


v

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
63. Bwhahahah! Thanks for answering my question.
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:56 AM
May 2016

Champions of the Status quo are not Democrats.

Considering how many of you low pro Hillary at any cost posters there suddenly are around now I can figure what you really are.

Please feel free to keep digging it deeper

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
77. I don't think you understand politics very well
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:41 PM
May 2016

Republicans = Conservatives - they conserve the status quo. Democrats are as liberal as America will stand. Its really that simple. As a consequence, they have to move incrementally toward their goal, rather than in some huge step that fails to bring people on board.

You know that a president represents not just those that voted for him/her?

You don't get points for being as liberal as you want and criticise anyone who takes a more inclusive and mature approach. That pushes people away and one of the main reasons why people of your ilk do so badly in convincing the populace of your cause.

1. You don't try to educate. Instead you repeat soundbites, or in Barnie's case, he repeats his stump speech. As if we didn't get it the first time. No, if it didn't work after the 10th time, you don't repeat it. This is common sense.

2. You guys don't know how to make an argument. Whenever you confront someone with a differing view, you accuse them of being 'Champions of the Status Quo' and arrogantly declare them not Democrats. How is that working out for you so far?

3. You guys don't understand the people with whom you live. You can't reach out to POC because you don't know them. You have no one in your lives that you have close that are POC and can't relate to them. You think reaching out, or speaking to their cause is 'pandering'. Your supporters have a huge contingent of racists, misogynists and bigots within the ranks and you as a group absorb them. You continually wonder why and how to get POC into your cause. It is a massive failure and an embarrassment to the democratic movement that for a while we allowed such people into it. I hope going forward you guys take some basic classes in politics and cultural studies in addition to some history - this is nothing to do with politics, I just think its a basic need that has been identified and will benefit not just you, but the POC who live around you.

I'm done digging. The Graveyard keeper will be around any time soon now. I suggest you shout loudly if you haven't dug yourself out by then.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
83. Yes yes, usual smug condescending talking points you dish out. One would swear you have a database
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:58 PM
May 2016

you copy/paste from.

I suggest for history you guys study the French Aristocracy. Thats the modern day equivalent you tossed your lot in with.

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
85. Thats sweet
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:19 PM
May 2016

The first time someone told me I must have copied and pasted something. Is that because you are reluctantly impressed?

The French aristocracy as opposed to the foundation on which the US was founded? Are you serious? The US was slavery based for a while, that was the basis of its economy. The 'current' Democratic party was the basis of the movement that contributed in stopping it.

An Aristocracy usually (but not exclusively) a by-product of a Royalty based system of which there is none in the US. However, the closest would be the political class, of which Barnie has been in for a number of decades. A trait of the Aristocracy was privilege and uselessness. Completely fitting Barnie to a T.

How many black people do you know who spent time writing fantasy fiction rape in their 30s to then go on to be decade long politicians and later run for president? Another old white guy for president?

I have no database, I just rely on you guys for material and inspiration. Its like arguing with a flat earther. I get no pleasure from it.

Here, to dilute any smugness you might have sensed from this post, have a round of applause for the quality of your post.

v

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
88. Here we go
Sun May 1, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016

You don't or cannot argue, then fein offense.

I've never met such a delicate bunch of wilting flowers. Your feelings are hurt at every comment you disagree with. Its 'condescending and smug'. You've mentioned condescending twice now. There must be other words available or maybe you feel that so strongly its worth mentioning again.

Or in respect of a quota you mention, its you that hasn't met it?

Do you need to mention condescending again? Feel free.

v

procon

(15,805 posts)
74. Bernie's not a Democrat, he just plays one on TV.
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:41 AM
May 2016

He was a Socialist before he was a Democratic Socialist for convenience.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
5. Is there anyone who believes
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:51 PM
Apr 2016

they simply could not come up with any oppo on Sanders?

If they were worried about him, they'd have used it by now.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
8. I honestly don't think there's any there there.
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:00 AM
May 2016

The guy is a square. An old square who has no interest in acquiring money and who genuinely desires that people's needs are met.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
32. Obama was square too.
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:24 AM
May 2016

Obama is truly the greatest president of my lifetime. They couldn't come up with anything so they just made crap up. Birthers, truthers, that he was a Muslim, that he was the anti-Christ.

Never underestimate the spitefulness.

If they can't find something on Sanders they will gladly make it up.

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
34. The made-up stuff didn't bring Obama down
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:35 AM
May 2016

despite it being pushed hard and constantly. I see no reason to assume made-up stuff will bring Bernie down. If anything, the right's hype has made young voters numb to the idea that socialism and social programs are scary.

Also, Bernie is less constrained about fighting back than the first black president, who had to be at all times on his best behavior and above the fray. But Bernie can mix it up with the best of them.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
35. Especially the lying thing -- Bernie has a reputation for being very honest
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:37 AM
May 2016

and that is how he is regarded by the voters in Vermont (some of whom are Republicans). They say "He always tells us the truth." Hillary has low numbers in the trustworthy category. So by constantly accusing Bernie of being a liar, they are just trying to negate the advantage he currently holds over Hillary for honesty.

Sam

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
39. excellent point
Sun May 1, 2016, 02:14 AM
May 2016

It doesn't work with those who already support him. It just makes us donate more money.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
42. That's probably why they can't seem to stop him. He's not on the take, so they have no
Sun May 1, 2016, 05:51 AM
May 2016

leverage with him, and no oppo either.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
58. That is not the reason
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:45 AM
May 2016

In prior years, the losing primary candidate stopped with the smears and ended his/her candidacy for the good of the party and the country. Sanders, apparently, is cut from different cloth. I can't decide if it is spite ( he hates Clinton because she beat him) or he really thinks by attacking her, he can turn the supers (he won't).

madokie

(51,076 posts)
45. So lets just run head long into the fucking fire
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:51 AM
May 2016

by electing Hillary. Is that what you're implying here?

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
6. He is late to the Game, his BS's surragagtes have been at it for weeks
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:52 PM
Apr 2016

.....and in other breaking news.....

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
7. The best stuff against Hillary remains unused.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 11:58 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton Foundation, email server, Panama Papers trade agreement, and more. Bernie chose not to. He could have, and he probably would be way ahead now but that isn't who he is.

Trump will go for the jugular, until the Independents run from her in droves. Anyone who thinks he won't is kidding themselves.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
9. that's true.
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:02 AM
May 2016

All of it.

A hot mess of money laundering through the Foundation. A rogue foreign policy run out of sight of Obama. Pay to play for arms sales to countries with massive human rights violations.

That will be Trump's breakfast.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
15. Trump is salivating and ready.
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:16 AM
May 2016

All this was brought on by Hillary herself and Bill. They started crap as early as in Arkansas and kept going.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
16. quite clever, actually
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:19 AM
May 2016

They saw how being seen as victims could work for them as a shield, and they have played it extremely well. Whenever their actions catch up with them, they holler VRWC! And their fans take up the hue and cry.

DebDoo

(319 posts)
72. You are exactly right! And they keep taking it further and further, incrementally you could say,
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:29 AM
May 2016

Each time getting more corrupt. And every time Clinton supporters just write it off. I suppose this is actually her best case for incrementalism does work. Pretty soon she could go to Time Square and...

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
78. yes!
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:49 PM
May 2016

The behavior is more and more risky.

Why must we put up with this? Why? The corruption just stinks.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
11. Republicans will come after any candidate
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:08 AM
May 2016

Sanders' past writings (particularly the rape essay) would be the perfect way for Trump to deflect his own comments about women. Sanders is naive if he thinks Republicans wouldn't lay a hand on him.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
13. Lol, againg with the rape paper...
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:14 AM
May 2016

...they will go after Hillary for laughing about letting a rapist off, and all of the things with her husband. Let them go after Bernie for a 40 year old essay that mentions rape as a way to talk about a sexually dysfunctional society with issues of male power.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
20. The median voter isn't going to buy that excuse about the essay
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:23 AM
May 2016

My point is that Sanders isn't going to be handled with kid gloves. Republicans can attack any Democrat running and be very effective.

If a Republican wrote an essay like that, Democrats would be all over it and show no mercy. Let's be consistent.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
22. The median voter buys the "40 years ago" explanation.
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:27 AM
May 2016

No one cares what any candidate wrote 40 years ago. Not in the least.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
26. Yes, the median voter is not that stupid...
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:39 AM
May 2016

...just the people that fixate over a 40 year old paper...but the much more recent stuff with Hillary and Bill or her case with the rapist she got off. I did a quick search and of the two stories Hillary's case was mentioned in some sites this month, Bernie's was mentioned last year...by NPR...so think what you like, but she is about to get her issues flooded on her. I am pretty sure we will have an add about her being a "Feminist" that frees child r@pists, and an ad that loops her saying "we didn't lose one person in Lybia".

 

Seeinghope

(786 posts)
18. He didn't say that Trump wouldn't lay a hand on him! Stop putting words in his mouth!
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:21 AM
May 2016

Whatever Bernie Sanders may have is nothing compared to what Hillary Clinton has starting with the FBI, The Clinton Foundation, The speeches, Her dismal record as Secretary of State.........

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
23. Trump has a whole history of racism, sexism, questionable business practices, etc
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:28 AM
May 2016

Clinton is battled tested enough to handle him.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
44. Except when it comes to Clinton.
Sun May 1, 2016, 06:01 AM
May 2016

Then suddenly you become incredible shy about saying what's in front of your eyes.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
37. You know when someone has to reach back 39 years to find something controversial about Sanders
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:41 AM
May 2016

they are desperate. I can't believe anyone would use something like that written 39 years ago and think it would be harmful today.

Sam

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
47. Trump has murdered his standing in the Latino community
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:19 AM
May 2016

Holding firm at 9% to 11% favorable in various polls. Mittens managed 27% of this demographic and managed to lose the election handily. But somehow Trump dons magic Teflon and walks away with it? OK then. I'm quite familiar with the folly of Voodoo Economics, but now we are witnessing Voodoo Electoral Logic?

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
31. Because republicans would never say anything about Bernies ties to the Soviet Union, Debs, and other
Sun May 1, 2016, 01:02 AM
May 2016

Aspects of his bio.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
48. WHen they say 'shes been vetted' they are refering to the 90's and 2008
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:26 AM
May 2016

the problem is that Clinton has a completely new picnic basket of crap to rummage through
that hasn't hardly been touched.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
79. EXACTLY!!!
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:50 PM
May 2016

Her minions have fallen for this "framing". We see it here every day.

The worst of the matter has happened since 2008. And even worse is planned.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
52. Really and Sander is supposedly on the Democratic side?
Sun May 1, 2016, 10:39 AM
May 2016

He must know he has lost...how he can he say stuff like that. Honestly, Sanders is a big disappointment to me.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
64. Bernie brought up the Clinton foundation
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
May 2016

Honestly, there are no words...well Bernie is on ignore for the rest of the primary. He has nothing to say that I want to hear...Just call Trump and compare notes: Bernie-figure out which attacks will work and all.

Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
68. I agree
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:08 AM
May 2016

I turn the TV off when he is on. I don't like Jane either. I forced myself to watch the video...and then I was so angry.
what is he thinking?

BootinUp

(47,151 posts)
70. Indeed he has just hit a new low.
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:10 AM
May 2016

Negative slurs against a humanitarian organization. You suck Bernie.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
80. a "humanitarian organization" the expends only 10 percent of its revenue..
Sun May 1, 2016, 12:53 PM
May 2016

...for humanitarian purposes!

A "humanitarian organization" that accepts billions of dollars from foreign leaders with human rights violations galore and ..........miraculously...........Hillary then approves arms sales to those people.

Sick.
Twisted.
Psychopathic.

Response to Bernie93 (Original post)

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
75. I'm shocked so many Democrats back the most disliked and mistrusted candidate with a closet full of
Sun May 1, 2016, 11:49 AM
May 2016

skeletons like no nominee we have ever considered.

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