Robert Reich just nailed every Clinton partisan who ever called Bernie Sanders clueless

[Triana]

SOURCE: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/17/1516508/-Robert-Reich-just-nailed-every-Clinton-partisan-who-ever-said-Sanders-doesn-t-get-things-done

[immoderate]

1. Reich, IMO, gets high grades for credibility.

--imm

[senz]

37. Objective proof for what Reich said --

Bernie Sanders' Legislative Accomplishments: A Partial List

FACT: Bernie Sanders Got More Done in the Senate than Hillary Clinton

[Ferd Berfel]

2. Thank You Sec Reich

[Stallion]

3. Good-He Can Continue Being Tenacious in the United States Senate

he won't be on the General Election Ballot

[Triana]

6. He won't be on the GE Ballot because America votes STUPID.

It's why we're where we are.



Keep it up, morons.

[artislife]

26. Only 7 states nullify a ballot with a write in candidate

So if you want to vote for Prince, you can't really in Nevada, Oklahoma, Missouri, Louisian, Alabama and one more..somewhere close to the other southern states.

[Jitter65]

33. But most of those amendments never passed. Wonder why?

Reich was there...his memory isn't that good then.

[rhett o rick]

58. Really? do you have any proof of that?

[Dragonfli]

61. The poster is intentionally "misspeaking". To put it politely, I'd prefer to call it what it is but

They'll hide anything these days even calling an "untruth" what it is by definition.

[rhett o rick]

67. They have come up with some specific tactics at their "Brain Trust" at the Cave.

One of course is that they watch diligently for new OP's by Sanders supporters and then post a very quick, usually very short, post to get in the first response. They claim it gives them some kind of tactical advantage. They have to continue to hit the refresh button to make sure they are the first to respond. How very sad.

And now I notice more and more outright "misstatements" with no follow up, especially by "new" posters with low post counts. Another tactic.

My tactic is to put all Clinton posters with less than 1,000 on ignore immediately.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

70. Please don't do that.

The better strategy is to confront "misspeaks" at every opportunity. And to do that, we need numbers, and people willing to do that. If they go unchallenged, then they're taken as truth. Please reconsider.

[rhett o rick]

72. I appreciate your enthusiasm but it's a waste of time. The other side isn't

interested in facts, in fact they abhor facts. They seek strong leadership and are willing to give up their freedoms and liberties and worse, they are willing to either ignore those around them that are struggling or they somehow use pragmatism to justify the suffering. The need for tough authoritarian leadership overrides all.

We need to continue our fight, we need to concentrate on getting Sanders elected then turn to Congress. We have a lot of momentum and we don't need to wasted time trying to educate sycophants.

It's my opinion that all the many low post Clinton fans are being thrown at us as a tactic. Please reconsider and put them on ignore.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

74. I'm thinking more about the readers of the lies.

I'm not concerned with spreaders of such propaganda; just going to provide a substantiated counter to the lies so that the people reading the comment will make an informed opinion. Without that, the readers will repeat the lies, not out of malice, but out of ignorance.

[rhett o rick]

81. I understand and I do agree we need to put out the truth but I think it's a waste of

time to respond to puppets. Not sure how they do it but there are dozens of them.

[Dragonfli]

75. The sad part is had they just a little brains at the brain trust huddling in the cave

They'd realize they are doing Brock's work for free.
Speaking of brock, When I see his low count, "speaking pamphlet posters", I say nothing to them, but respond to the (to warn others) with one of these.

[bvar22]

83. "woo me with science" said it best.

Their goal is not to convince anyone of anything.

"It is to thoroughly hijack, pollute and therefore eliminate public spaces where real discussion and organization can occur. Occupy is disbanded with clubs and pepper spray. Dissent and organization online are disrupted with surveillance and propaganda.

It is no accident that propaganda brigades post new threads on discussion boards far out of proportion to their presence in the community, and that they nearly *always* demand the last word in any interchange.

The goal is to disrupt the important public space for liberal thought, discussion, and organization that these boards offer, and to keep the participants busy instead batting off the corporate lies and talking points."

woo me with science Sun Jul 28, 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

By responding to their Swiftboating lies we only help them to hi-jack the thread.
Of course, the lies DO have to be debunked, but there are better ways than to do exactly what they want you to do.

I've known people like this IRL who seem lo lack a moral compass.
I've never had any use for them or respect for them.
They seen to be developmentally arrested in Middle Childhood, and unless you have a rumpus room, or a Kiddie table in your house,
it is best not to invite them in.

I've always thought that if we had a Bevis & Butthead Forum at DU, they would self-isolate themselves there, and the adults could have intelligent conversations and actually discuss important issues.

I joined DU in Feb of 2001, and have been here continuously since then. I have never put anyone on ignore until recently, and now have about 10 of the worst offenders on that list.
I've kept a few visible for the comedic relief.

[Dragonfli]

88. I get that, usually i ignore them, this time I responded with the facts - unrelated

I would like your input and opinion on this

If you have already read it then disregard the request. Thanks.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

69. Nope, he/she is just flinging bullshit and ...

... hoping something sticks.

[Dragonfli]

60. I've posted this several times, but few appear to get the message, He was EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE.

So far I have posted this or variations of it (about 10 times):



The Right Wing implication appears to be that even with all his years of public service, a progressive like Bernie Sanders was too far to the left to accomplish anything.

That one has to be able to find the buypartisan way, in other words, adopt the least offensive GOP legislation as your own if you wish to accomplish anything, if one is not a member of the Republican party itself.

The problem with this bullshit GOP meme is that it is completely false, he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, of all sizes and shapes, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.

[center][font size=3"]The Amendment King[/font][/center]

....Congress is not known to be a progressive institution lately, to say the least. Over the past few decades, the House of Representatives was only controlled by the Democrats from 2007 to 2010, and a flood of corporate money has quieted the once-powerful progressive movement that passed legislation moving the country forward between the New Deal era and the Great Society. Yet, as difficult as it may be to believe, a socialist from Vermont is one of its most accomplished members. ....

snip

....Sanders did something particularly original, which was that he passed amendments that were exclusively progressive, advancing goals such as reducing poverty and helping the environment, and he was able to get bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable and progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.

Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:....

[font color="red"]Much more, but due to the three paragraph rule you will have to follow this link[/font]
I dare those that pretend the GOP meme is true and are spreading it for them, to read the article!

There are so many examples in fact that you really need to read the entire article as it completely dispels this current Right Wing myth that Bernie Sanders after all his time in Congress achieved almost nothing, when in fact he was literally one of the most effective members of Congress! Read the facts in the article itself, clearly the GOP is spreading lies about him, after all, who besides Rove and the GOP would use such lying sleazy bullshit tactics against someone that helped Democrats get as much progressive policy put into effect during his tenure?...

Not to say Hillary Clinton did not achieve some things during her six year hobby involved in legislating (the last two were spent campaigning and fundraising)

She managed to vote for the Patriot Act, for an illegal war, and even whip some votes with her passionate selling of the Bush/Cheney lies. (she deserves some credit for that,) and those of you that enjoy war should be and are rightfully quite proud of that.

As a Senator Clinton did get some things accomplished, Clinton sponsored three bills that became law: S.3145, S.3613, and S.1241. The first of these renamed a highway in New York state, the second renamed a post office in New York City, and the third established the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in Troy, New York and authorized funding to set the site up.

To be truly fair, she also tried to put an end to the epidemic of flag burning and ban some media, but these, her most favorite things were too hard for her to get done, she just couldn't get them passed, she may have lacked the chops to do it, but BUT SHE TRIED REAL HARD!

The United States Family Entertainment Protection Act (FEPA) was a bill introduced by Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY), and co-sponsored by Senators Joe Lieberman (D-CT), Tim Johnson (D-SD) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) on November 29, 2005. The bill called for a federal mandate enforcement of the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings.

Unsuccessfully unfortunately for the more puritan among us, sigh, if only she were more effective at passing such laws, we would finally be safe from cluster bombs, eerr.. I mean f-bombs (she voted against ending the use of child killing cluster bombs, my "misspeak" or my bad, if you prefer) she likes cluster bombs, so much so that after some donations to very, very, special charity, she made sure as SoS to sell cluster bombs to those altruistic rulers of Saudi Arabia! She deserves credit for that!

The kids just love playing with those rather than video games.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2008/03/13/cluster-bombs-are-not-good-children-hillary

This is a common result


[center][font size="4"; color="8B0000"]Amendments Bernie got passed, stop "misspeaking!"
(The new euphemism for intentionally telling an untruth)[/font][/center

The following is a list of every substantive bill and amendment Sanders sponsored from the floor of Congress that became law (substantive meaning legislation renaming post offices is not included). Many of the roll-call amendments he passed with majority approval — like limiting the federal government’s ability to spy on people’s library records — were removed from bills when the House and Senate negotiated over the final legislative text and did not become law.

Because the list is derived from Congress’ official database of floor actions, it does not include achievements like his insertion of funding for veterans health care into an Iraq war spending bill because that occurred off of the House floor while the bill was in conference. Nor does the list include what is perhaps his most significant achievement — providing health care to an additional 10 million mostly low-income Americans by getting Senate majority leader Harry Reid to add $11 billion in funding for community health centers that provide care regardless of a person’s ability to pay to the 2010 Affordable Care Act in exchange for Sanders rallying liberal Democrats who were considering voting against the bill once conservative Democrats removed the public option.

Those who mistakenly believe that a President Sanders would be powerless in the face of a hostile Republican Congress should bear in mind that he managed to pass these bills and amendments in spite of Republican control of both the House (1995-2006) and the presidency (2001-2008). Furthermore, it was Republicans in the House and Senate who compromised with him (not the other way around) on major veterans legislation in 2014. His original bill expanding services for veterans and fixing the scandal-ridden Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) cost $17.3 billion. The price tag of the final compromise bill? $16.3 billion.

H.R.4206 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act) enacted as S. 3312 (Cancer Registries Amendment Act).

H.Amdt. 98 to H.R. 665 (Victims of Justice Act of 1995)

H.Amdt. 210 to H.R. 830 (Paperwork Reduction Act of 1995)

H.Amdt. 1203 to H.R. 3666 Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 1997

H.J.Res.129 enacted as S.J.Res.38 (A joint resolution granting the consent of Congress to the Vermont-New Hampshire Interstate Public Water Supply Compact)

H.Amdt.174 to H.R.1757 (Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998)

H.Amdt.267 to H.R.2160 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)

H.Amdt.289 to H.R.2266 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1998) -- National Guard Starbase program

H.Amdt.368 to H.R.2378 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1998) -- Prohibit funds for the U.S. Customs Office from being used to allow the importation into the U.S. any material mined, produced, or manufactured by forced or indentured child labor.

H.Amdt.388 to H.R.2267 (Departments of Commerce, Justice, and State, the Judiciary, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1998)

H.Amdt.569 to H.R.6 (Higher Education Amendments of 1998)

H.Amdt.614 to H.R.3694 (Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999) -- Reduce the intelligence budget for fiscal year 1999 by 5% with an exemption for the CIA Retirement and Disability Fund.

H.Amdt.626 to H.R.10 (Financial Services Act of 1998) -- Require the Comptroller General to report to Congress regarding the efficacy and benefits of uniformly limiting any commissions, fees, markups, or other costs incurred by customers in the acquisition of financial products.

H.Amdt.706 to H.R.4101 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Increase funding for nutrition programs for senior citizens by $10 million

H.Amdt.708 to H.R.4103 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 1999) -- Prohibit funding to be used to enter into or renew a contract with any company owned, or partially owned, by the People’s Republic of China or the People’s Liberation Army of the People’s Republic of China.

H.Amdt.724 to H.R.4104 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 1999) enacted as H.R. 2490 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2000) -- National Archives and Records Administration improvements

H.Amdt.127 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000)

H.Amdt.136 to H.R.1906 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- national pilot program to promote agritourism

H.Amdt.258 to H.R.2466 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) enacted as H.R.3194 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2000) -- deficit reduction; and reduces fossil energy research and development funding

H.Amdt.442 to H.R.2684 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2000) -- health care services for veterans in rural areas

H.Amdt.791 to H.R.4577 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2001) -- (relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms)

H.Amdt.818 to H.R.4578 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2001) -- weatherization assistance and energy conservation programs and reduce fossil fuel energy research and development programs

H.Amdt.238 to H.R.2590 (Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act, 2002) -- Prohibit the importation of goods made by forced or indentured child labor.

H.Amdt.376 to H.R.3061 (Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2002) -- relating to the availability to the public of an invention and its benefits on reasonable terms

H.Amdt.404 to H.R.3338 (Department of Defense and Emergency Supplemental Appropriations for Recovery from and Response to Terrorist Attacks on the United States Act, 2002) -- Provide $100 million for federally qualified community health centers.

H.Amdt.255 to H.R.2691 (Department of the Interior and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Increase funding for weatherization assistance grants

H.Amdt.336 to H.R.2861 (Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development, and Independent Agencies Appropriations Act, 2004) enacted as H.R.2673 (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2004) -- Prohibit the use of funds in the bill to implement any policy prohibiting the Directors of the Veterans Integrated Service Networks from conducting outreach or marketing to enroll new veterans within their respective networks.

S.Amdt.737 to H.R.1591 (U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007) -- fund weatherization assistance program

S.Amdt.1515 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- Establish an energy efficiency and renewable energy worker training program

S.Amdt.1525 to H.R.6 (Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007) -- use of solar hot water heaters in certain Federal buildings

S.Amdt.4384 to H.R.3221 (Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008) -- Increase specially adapted housing benefits for disabled veterans.

S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- re child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces

S.Amdt.2271 to H.R.2997 (Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2010) -- funds for the school community garden pilot program

S.Amdt.2601 to H.R.3326 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2010) -- veteran outreach and reintegration services

S.Amdt.3738 to S.3217 (Restoring American Financial Stability Act of 2010) -- let the American people know the names of the recipients of over $2 trillion in taxpayer assistance from the Federal Reserve System

S.Amdt.306 to H.R.1 (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009) -- Require recipients of TARP funding to meet strict H-1B worker hiring standard to ensure non-displacement of U.S. workers

S.Amdt.1658 to S.1390 (National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010) -- report to Congress on financial assistance for child care available to deployed members of the reserve components of the Armed Forces.

S.Amdt.4280 to H.R.4899 (Supplemental Appropriations Act, 2010) -- make publicly available the contractor integrity performance database established under the Clean Contracting Act of 2008

S.2450 (Veterans’ Access to Care through Choice, Accountability, and Transparency Act of 2014) enacted as H.R.3230 (Veterans Access, Choice, and Accountability Act of 2014) -- VA reform bill

S.893 (Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2013) -- increase rates of veterans’ disability compensation, additional compensation for dependents, etc.

S.Amdt.2146 to S.1471 (Alicia Dawn Koehl Respect for National Cemeteries Act) – re interring the remains and honoring the memory of a person in a national cemetery

[Fantastic Anarchist]

71. Bravo!!!

👏

Everyone should copy this to OneNote or other note app to be at the ready to counter the lies ...with your permission, of course.

[Dragonfli]

77. Go right ahead, it is all easily researchable material, beyond my snarkisk remarks,

but those are open source now as well, by my decree if they are wanted.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

85. Thank you!!

[northernsouthern]

78. Lol, you love to spin the facts even when you have none. NT

[ucrdem]

4. Reich hasn't been "there" in nearly 20 years.

He left the Clinton admin in 1997.

[Triana]

5. Bernie Sanders HAS been there though. n/t

[ucrdem]

8. You wouldn't know it from Reich.

He's talking a lot but he's not saying anything.

[libdem4life]

16. Good grief, that's an insipid comment.

Seems to go with the territory, however. Actually, the text sentence says it all. But not about Reich. He said it quite plainly. More of those inconvenient facts and memes some get hung up on around here.

Next we'll hear...yeah, well working in the background and getting things done doesn't make for a President. Actually, it does. That's how most Real Change gets done...the framework from the real leaders gets set up in the background, then the results create the public version. That's for both parties, BTW.

[snowy owl]

23. These people want to remain ignorant. There's no other explanation.

[artislife]

27. Consider the source. nt

[senz]

38. They've got NOTHING, and they know it.

It's all smoke and mirrors for them.

[ladjf]

29. Reich is one of the smartest people in America. We are fortunate that he

shares his views with us.

[CorkySt.Clair]

41. That's when he went to work for the lollipop guild

[B Calm]

48. Why do think it's okay to make fun of short people?

[potone]

90. Especially when the short person

is short because of a disease that affected his bone development, as was the case with Mr. Reich. Truly ignorant and heartless comment!

[Faux pas]

7. Kickin' for the truth!

[FlatBaroque]

9. I find it odd that a porcine, dumb and happy banker's accusations are worthy

of a response.

[dreamnightwind]

49. He looks happy now

What a piece of work Barney Frank turned out to be. I used to listen to him bash people like Bush and Gramm and thought he was one of the good guys. He was just another partisan 1%'er in the making. And Reich, who had a role in some of the bad reforms of the Clintons, turned out to be the real deal. Upside down world.

[Ed Suspicious]

79. Lol. Nice job turning that frown upside down.

[2banon]

54. I hear ya..

[drokhole]

10. The Tao of Bernie

2

Tao “creates” everything without possessing,
Accomplishes with no claim,
Thus, no adherence, no vanish.

17

A leader is best when people barely know that he exists,
not so good when people obey and acclaim him,
worst when they despise him.
Fail to honor people, They fail to honor you.
But of a good leader, who talks little, when his work is done, his aims fulfilled,
They will all say, “We did this ourselves.”

(Alt 17:

The highest ruler is unknown to the people,
To the next comes the ruler whom the people love and honor.
Then the one whom people fear.
Then the one whom people despise.
He who does not trust enough is not be trusted.
When an accomplishment is achieved without words,
People say, “It is natural!”)

34

The great Tao is omnipresent, both to the left or to the right.
Ten Thousand Things depend on it,
And yet it makes no speech.
The great Tao creates everything,
And yet it makes no claim.
It nourishes Ten Thousand Things,
And yet it does not call itself the master.
As it is ever desireless,
it may be called “small.”
As Ten Thousand Things ultimately return to it,
it may be called “great.”
It does not call itself great,
Therefore, it is genuinely great.

51

Therefore, it is Tao which creates them,
And it is its virtue that sustains them,
Nourishes and raises them,
Secures and protects them.
Creating them without taking credit,
Nourishes them without controlling,
This is the Primal Virtue.

[mmonk]

21. +1

[dreamnightwind]

50. I think Bernie would love that

[FlatBaroque]

51. The greatest text ever written.

I don't know who said it, but it was referenced by Joseph Campbell...paraphrasing: The enlightened man walks down the middle of the street and no one notices him. But as he passes by, every flower blooms.

[drokhole]

53. Love that!

And a big fan of Joseph Campbell, so thanks for the share!

[arikara]

62. It sounds like its paraphrased from the I Ching

The classic Chinese Book of Changes.

[drokhole]

68. A few chapters from the Tao Te Ching, actually...

...denoted by the numbers preceding each bit of text. There's more to chapter "2", if I recall, but the others might be full translations.

Haven't read all of the I Ching yet, but that's a phenomenal book, as well. Endlessly fascinated by the yin-yang principles, hexagrams, its underscoring of flow and impermanence, etc...

[RufusTFirefly]

11. Reich's a great example of someone who's known Hillary for ages

... and yet he can't support her candidacy. Why do you suppose that is?
(He's known her since they both were in college.)

Another example of someone who's known her for decades and yet can't support her is Marian Wright Edelman, founder of the Children's Defense Fund.

[reformist2]

13. But for every Robert Reich she loses, Hillary gains a David Brock!

[Punkingal]

25. Snort...

[pdsimdars]

39. Or, more accurately, "buys" another David Brock.

[workinclasszero]

14. How many Senator's came out strong for Bernie

after all his years in the Senate?

[msongs]

15. the people who know him best avoid him lol nt

[workinclasszero]

17. Yeah..how about that? LOL

[snowy owl]

24. Perhaps you should do a little homework before opinionating...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

Or will you choose to remain ignorant?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

73. Very impressive and diverse group.

Of course, Hillary got a ringing, though indirect, endorsement from David Koch.

[libdem4life]

18. It wasn't/isn't yet PC.

They are politicians, after all and came in with the backing of The Establishment. That's the way it's always been. Many/most of them would prefer not to spend half their time raising money for the next election.

It's not over for Sanders people and those who quietly, at least for now, support the needed changes. In fact, the genie is out of the bottle and the progress can begin in local, down ticket politics.

Moving ahead will be interesting, to say the least.

[snowy owl]

30. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016

[rock]

34. And how many super delegates?

You know the knowledgeable professional politicians!

[Seeinghope]

36. The ones that could be bought?

[rock]

42. Welcome to DU

Stick around a while.

[Seeinghope]

57. Thank you! I'll try to!

[cui bono]

44. You mean the paid lobbyists?

[arikara]

63. You mean the lobbyists?

on edit:
Sorry for the repetition.
Nah. Not really.

[senz]

40. Hillary is big on power, wealth, influence -- and intimidation.

Hillary's Hit List

Bernie just concentrated on getting thing done. That's why he accomplished so much more than power-hungry Hillary.

[rock]

66. Rubbish

He simple didn't accomplish that much in 30 years as a senator becuase he's so difficult to work with. It's a well-known fact among the politicians.

[cui bono]

45. Probably just about the same amount who are spineless and worried about their own future

rather than the future of the US and its 99% citizens.

.

[bvar22]

47. Debbie Schultz hasn't given them permission.

Don't want to piss off the holder of the DNC purse strings.

[Hoyt]

35. He doesn't support her because he has no chance for a job in her admin

Robert is tired of teaching Fresmen/women civics. I think it's a good gig, but not enough for Robert NAFTA Reich apparently.

[felix_numinous]

12. +100000

Just the facts, that's all.

[vintx]

19. Those who pay attention know. nt

[2cannan]

20. When Bernie met Hillary

Someone posted this article to DU awhile back and I love it because it shows how gracious, persistent and behind- the-scenes Bernie is. If you haven't read it, please do.

When Bernie met Hillary
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-119082

Thanks for the great post, Triana!

[IdaBriggs]

55. That was an awesome article - thank you for sharing! nt

[CobaltBlue]

22. Flush Barney Frank Down the Toilet

Along with Claire McCaskill and every red-baiter surrogate for Hillary Clinton who went after Bernie Sanders.

[snowy owl]

32. Barney flushed himself down the toilet.

[greiner3]

46. You're just nasty

[2banon]

56. Indeed, and the media pulled him out of the Bankster sewage tank to shill and throw shite at Bernie

PBS News Hour, I'm assuming the same on the gab fest cable shows they call "news" channels.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

87. Oh, at first read, I thought you said Bernie.

We were going to have words. My apologies for the confusion.

[snowy owl]

31. This thread confuses me. A Clinton appointee supports Bernie so Clintonites - he's ignorant?

I guess real is not and false is true and Bill appointed stupid people to his administration and that means we should all vote Clinton and fantasy is really reality and reality never happened and none of us know what we're talking about if we're for Bernie because he's a socialist just like FDR who wasn't.

That's what this has all devolved into.

[Hydra]

52. They're having trouble controlling the narrative

Because the facts don't support their spin on it. Nevertheless, it is critical that they control said narrative by any and all means, or the candidacy fails yet again.

I've seen and continue to see zero calorie posts and media actions. A sad state of affairs for such a talented woman, that she needs that to win.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

59. Well, it is confusing. DUers used to think Paul Krugman was an economic genius

...then he disagreed with Reich and endorsed Hillary Clinton. Now, all of a sudden Krugman's an idiot and Reich is a genius? The same Krugman that many DUers thought should have been appointed Sec Treasury?

Just wondering what cabinet post Reich is being offered for shilling for Sanders. Neither of them got stupid. It's just political season...besides, Reich has a lot of copies of Saving Capitalism I'm sure he'd like to move.

[underthematrix]

76. I think he's very smart BUT he's also needy, lives in his feels and

absolutely cannot be TRUSTED. That's why he NEVER got an Obama appointment.

[snowy owl]

89. He was too far left for Obama. And Obama chose less represented people:

a woman - Solis and a Hispanic - Perez. What don't you get about that? He has a very diverse admin compared to others.

[underthematrix]

91. Say what? Solis and Perez were chosen because they were HIGHLY QUALIFIED

drama free, TRUSTWORTHY and were flexible enough to work with people from different ideological perspectives

[cui bono]

43. k n r

[Enthusiast]

64. Barney Frank has destroyed his own credibility.

[DLevine]

65. K&R. nt

[northernsouthern]

80. That is why we are sick of the HRC camp

I am tired of how many of them lie or are just ignorant of the facts. You point out how much work he has done, you show proof, you have people supporting it and they still think that a candidate that flips faster than a pancake on speed in an earthquake has the best chance of getting things done. Perhaps that is why she won almost every coin toss in Iowa, the coins related to her on the issue of her flipping.

[libodem]

82. Yep

[Uncle Joe]

86. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Triana.