Clinton-Warren Ticket:: "You don't want a vice-president who's going to outshine the president"

[imagine2015]

POLITICO

The Clinton-Warren fantasy
Hillary Clinton is intrigued by the idea of an all-female ticket. But allies say she likely won't pick the woman of progressive dreams: Elizabeth Warren
By Annie Karni
04/30/16


Elizabeth Warren would be the dream vice presidential pick for millions of forlorn Bernie Sanders supporters, an instant antidote to the charge that Hillary Clinton is too close to Wall Street.

But in interviews with more than a dozen prominent Democrats and campaign allies, most viewed a Clinton-Warren ticket as an unlikely scenario — despite the appeal of a two-woman ticket to Clinton campaign officials and also to Clinton, who sources said is intrigued by the idea.

Warren has criticized Clinton in the past for flipping her stance on the bankruptcy bill because of Wall Street campaign contributions she took as a New York senator. Still, she is exactly what Clinton needs, some Democrats argue -- an independent thinker with a powerful grassroots fundraising base to tap into.

Warren, proponents of the partnership said, would also help Clinton with her gap among millennial female voters, third-wave feminists who want to see a woman elected president but not merely for the sake of electing a woman.

But the cons of Warren, many Clinton allies said, outweigh the pros. “You don’t want a vice president who’s going to outshine the president,” said the super delegate supporting Clinton. “With Warren, I think there’s a real possibility of that.”

Democrats said they would also worry about Warren’s ability to fall in line behind Clinton. When she was recruited to run for Senate from her post at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, for instance, she was wary until she could be assured she could do more about banking regulation from the Senate. And Warren insiders have expressed a distrust of Clinton on their core issue of Wall Street reform.

Read the full article at:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/hillary-clinton-elizabeth-warren-ticket-222652

[oldandhappy]

1. yep!! Not going to happen.

Smile. Veep has to be obedient and not take away any shine from the president. We need Warren in the Senate. Or at least I think we need Warren in the Senate.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. VP Warren is already taken...

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[grossproffit]

7. Oh my.

[SFnomad]

12. Warren is too smart to take a Veep position from someone who can't even win the primary n/t

[SidDithers]

14. But "You don't want a vice-president who's going to outshine the president"...nt

Sid

[TheBlackAdder]

18. That would be valid if Sanders said it, but those are Clinton's SD's words! They own them!

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I think a shining VP would set the stage for a Warren Presidential slot in 2020.


(Correction: Misread quoute attribution, it was brought to my attention and I updated the title.)


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[Betty Karlson]

20. From your keyboard to God's ears. eom

[TheBlackAdder]

25. That's just a stupid retort.

[Betty Karlson]

41. No, I mean them: a Warren presidency in 2020 sounds great to me.

[TheBlackAdder]

43. Grr. I have to get off the keyboard and enjoy outside. I'm making stupid posts now.

[bettyellen]

37. why are you pretending Hillary said this when you know better? Integrity means nothing to you?

[TheBlackAdder]

40. My error, Clinton's Super Delegate's words. I'll update my original post.

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It still applies, not from SBS camp.


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[bettyellen]

42. spreading RW rumours, and then twisting them to be even worse. this is typical these days.

honestly, you are the first person I have seen come back and correct their lie- so good on you.

[TheBlackAdder]

44. Well, it wasn't a lie. It was a misread of the OP. You're spreading the crap now.

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When I'm wrong, I correct it. I responded to the OP's content.

But claiming my post was a lie, after I admitted to an error, shows a level of cynicism that is unbecoming.


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[KingFlorez]

45. I don't think she likes him

She'd never except a spot from a losing candidate, anyway. She's not Carly Fiorina.

[merrily]

3. Two Northeastern white women who are over 65 is not a very balanced ticket.

Think what a balanced ticket Obama Biden was.

Besides, I am not sure they like each other very much.

[imagine2015]

5. Careful! Someone might accuse you of being one of those Bernie sexists!

[merrily]

11. Oh, noes!

"I DON’T CARE" (1905) Words by Jean Lenox

VERSE:
They say I’m crazy, got no sense,
But I don’t care,
They may or may not mean offense,
But I don’t care,
You see I’m sort of independent,
Of cleverness descendent,
My star is on the ascendant,
That’s why I don’t care.

CHORUS:
I don’t care, I don’t care,
What they may think of me,
I’m happy go lucky,
Men say I am plucky,
So jolly and care free,
I don’t care, I don’t care,
If I do get the mean and stony stare,
If I’m never successful,
It won’t be distressful,
‘Cos I don’t care.

VERSE:
Some people say I think I’m it,
But I don’t care,
They say they don’t like me a bit,
But I don’t care,
You see I’m sort of independent,
Of a clever race descendant,
My star is on the ascendant,
That’s why I don’t care.

CHORUS:
I don’t care, I don’t care,
If people don’t like me,
I’ll try to outlive it,
I know I’ll forgive it,
And live contentedly,
I don’t care, I don’t care,
If people do not try to treat me fair,
There is naught can amaze me,
Dislike can not daze me,
‘Cos I don’t care.

*changed a lyric because I am not sure what it meant and therefore don't want to repeat it or sign on to it.

[Eric J in MN]

23. Clinton-Warren would balance the centrist and liberal wings. NT

NT

[merrily]

24. If they lose the election, they could make the divide greater while one side points at the other.

Besides, they are younger liberals, male and female, white and persons of color, from all parts of the country, who could get that same balance. Barbara Lee, for one.

[djean111]

29. No, if Hillary picked Warren, she would just be pandering, and then relegate Warren to dinners and

funerals, with the extra bonus of getting Warren out of Congress. The Third Way is quite up front about hating warren - according to them, Warren is "getting out of hand".

Warren as VP to Hillary would not get my vote any more than Hillary with anybody as her VP.

[Eric J in MN]

30. Even if Warren had no influence as VP

....(and I think she would have influence), the alternative is putting a centrist in position to be the nominee in 8 years.

[djean111]

33. We need Warren in Congress - unless Warren is President.

And no, she would not influence Hillary. The Third Way has gone so far as to editorialize against Warren in the Wall Street Journal. Hillary is a Third Wayer. She will not be influenced, only happy to put Warren into a powerless position.

I don't think there will be much left of the United States anyway, in eight years. Hillary OR Trump. Constant war, trade deals that suck jobs out of the country.....fracking, Hillary wants to means-test Social Security - only downhill.

[Buzz Clik]

4. "outshine the president" Please.

Warren's appeal is extremely limited and gives nothing to the ticket with a unlikely exception of appeasing some young voters who might otherwise stay home. Assuming a VP pick every really made that kind of difference.

An all-female ticket makes no sense. It will not happen.

[Eric J in MN]

31. Warren appeals to the people who fund the Sanders campaign. NT

NT

[Buzz Clik]

36. Warren appeals to me, and I didn't give a dime to Sanders.

[azurnoir]

6. well it would be a way to neutralize someone who would likely be a thorn in the side

of a President Clinton-but it won't happen

[ancianita]

10. Exactly.

[azurnoir]

13. FWiW my bet is it'll be Julián Castro

[PragmaticLiberal]

15. My gut says it's going to be Tom Perez

[ancianita]

16. I've been expecting that, too. But a woman seems up for consideration, according to MSNBC.

[Vote2016]

8. I'd vote for Hillary-Elizabeth but Hillary's gonna pick a conservative white dude from a swing state

Just be glad Lieberman is no longer an option.

[MisterP]

17. Lieberman, Trump, and McDairmid's Senator Palpatine all make the same faces: it's fearsome

[Ferd Berfel]

9. If CLinton manages to pull this off and not get indicted

we will need Warren right where she is

we don't need her buried in the black hole of a VP position where she will be forced to bite her tongue and support the RW Corporate agenda bullshit that Clinton Admin will be ramming down our throats.

We will need Bernie and Warren and others to try to prevent further slide to Corporatism.

[musicblind]

19. I don't buy the outshining thing.

I don't think having a Vice President outshine a nominee is necessarily bad. If they are shining for good reasons then it is all good because it is for the same ticket.

Elizabeth Warren would be an amazing pick and add even more star power. I hope they go for it.

[Waiting For Everyman]

21. She would choose a Gerry Ford.

A long time insider who can be relied upon to pardon her if it comes to that.

A Warren might do the ethical thing instead, so I don't see her or anyone of Sanders sympathies being chosen. This is some flattering spin for a cover story about counting her out.

[artislife]

32. A Gerry Ford...I think you nailed it.

[Eric J in MN]

22. I disagree with the implication of the article that Sherrod Brown

...would inspire liberals as much as Elizabeth Warren.

Sherrod Brown voted to repeal Glass-Steagall.

I want Elizabeth Warren to be the next VP.

[pengu]

26. If you think taking Warren out of the Senate and putting her in a ceremonial role is a good idea

Then I don't know what to tell you.

[Eric J in MN]

34. Hillary Clinton will be spending lots of time

...as president talking to corporate lobbyists.

If Elizabeth Warren is VP, then Clinton will occasionally talk to a consumer advocate as well.

[pengu]

46. lol

[Land of Enchantment]

27. Never gonna happen. E Warren has too much integrity.

She would never cave to Hillary's bankster buds.

[2banon]

28. Warren was always my first choice as POTUS,but she said no, and Bernie jumped in

I don't believe Warren would take the bait, I think she's smarter than that. However, if Bernie tapped her on the shoulder (and that might have already happened) I would personally be ecstatic, and I think the enthusiasm factor would soar.

[bemildred]

35. "That would require modesty, humility, and genuine concern for the public interest." nt

[hollowdweller]

38. I can't believe Warren would want to be part of a Clinton admin.

Carrying water for a war on Iran, free trade and cuts to Social Security would kill her credibility.

[apnu]

39. I highly doubt Warren would outshine Clinton.

Hillary already shines with the brillance of the sun, and the President shines by right of office too. No, Elizabeth Warren would not outshine Hillary Clinton. At best, Warren would shine almost as bright as.

I would welcome that light. Warren being on thr ticket is my dream ticket, was my dream ticket before Sanders got in. I back Sanders is lieu of Elizabeth Warren.