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timlot

(456 posts)
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:03 PM Apr 2016

If there had never been a Man President in the 240 years of this country.

Last edited Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:04 AM - Edit history (1)

Would most men feel some type of obligation to make history and vote for the first male President? I think folks are underestimating the magnitude of women on both side of the political spectrum stepping into voter's booth and being able for the first time in history vote for a woman at the head of a Presidential ticket.

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If there had never been a Man President in the 240 years of this country. (Original Post) timlot Apr 2016 OP
Especially when not doing so will help Donald "blood coming out of her wherever" Trump, Nye Bevan Apr 2016 #1
No doubt about it. It's why Cruz picked Fiorina. morningfog Apr 2016 #2
People don't like to talk about it. joshcryer Apr 2016 #3
If you cast a vote based on the gentials of the candidate Press Virginia Apr 2016 #4
👆 This. deathrind Apr 2016 #5
My first thought exactly. 840high Apr 2016 #6
That's incorrect and foolish It's about chemistry Ghost Dog Apr 2016 #9
good lord Press Virginia Apr 2016 #11
If that were the case you'd be correct. Buzz cook Apr 2016 #7
"Both sides of the spectrum"? Ken Burch Apr 2016 #8
This has been responded to so many times. There has never been a woman President. merrily Apr 2016 #10
Indeed. I would have voted for Thatcher because of her vagina. Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #12
So what is wrong with you all in 2008? Gwhittey Apr 2016 #13

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
1. Especially when not doing so will help Donald "blood coming out of her wherever" Trump,
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:05 PM
Apr 2016

a guy who believes that there should be "some form of punishment" for women who have abortions.

This could well be the most lopsided female vote in a presidential election, ever.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
2. No doubt about it. It's why Cruz picked Fiorina.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:09 PM
Apr 2016

To try and offset that some. I don't doubt that 4 months from now most women will be behind Hillary, even from Bernie supporters and republicans.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
3. People don't like to talk about it.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:14 PM
Apr 2016

But it's a valid reason as any. And it will likely persuade a lot of women voters, whether people like it or not.

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
4. If you cast a vote based on the gentials of the candidate
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:18 PM
Apr 2016

You've put less thought into it than people who decided the winner of American idol

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
5. 👆 This.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:40 PM
Apr 2016

You are absolutely correct. It really is amazing how decades long core values of a political party have simply been swept to the side in the name of making history by voting for the first woman president.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
9. That's incorrect and foolish It's about chemistry
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:57 PM
Apr 2016

more than primary or secondary sexual, um, assets.

Also culture and history.

"Liberation of women" we called it, back in the day: my/our culture's greatest, though still incomplete, achievement of the last century.

,.. Doesn't mean the likes of Clinton, Albright, Thatcher, etc. are exemplary political women, does it?

What about Brazillian Dilma Rousseff?

 

Press Virginia

(2,329 posts)
11. good lord
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:16 AM
Apr 2016

if we were asked to consider that it would still be more effort than voting based on the basic biological gender characteristics of the species, which was what the poster was talking about.

Buzz cook

(2,474 posts)
7. If that were the case you'd be correct.
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:47 PM
Apr 2016

But the vast majority of women who support Clinton, do so because they think she's the best person for the job.

Suggesting that people "only" support Clinton because of her sex is deeply insulting. I've never understood how Bernie's supporters don't seem to understand that.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
8. "Both sides of the spectrum"?
Fri Apr 29, 2016, 11:51 PM
Apr 2016

Fiorina went nowhere in the primaries, and no Republican, let alone any Republican woman, would ever under any circumstances vote for HRC.


It can only be transformative to elect a rebel woman in the spirit of Shirley Chisholm or Bella Abzug or Sissy Farenthold. Once you are in the 1%, once you become a hawk, you lose any ability to be transformative. No war can ever again liberate women and neither can any victories for corporate power.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
10. This has been responded to so many times. There has never been a woman President.
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:05 AM
Apr 2016

We all know that. For whatever reason, a majority of the population did not get the vote until well after the 14th Amendment. Then, for whatever reasons, women did not run for many elected offices or elect use their majority vote to elect many other women.

I am a woman. What I experience is no different from what other American women experience. I would dearly love to see a woman President, but not Hillary or Palin. I didn't vote for Obama because we'd never had an African American President. I voted for him because I thought he would win the general and because I thought he would make a good President. Once I reached my decision, however, I was thrilled that I could support an African American for President. When I feel the same way about a woman, I will be just as thrilled. I don't feel that way about Hillary or Palin and bathing suit parts alone are not reason enough for me to vote for a President.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
13. So what is wrong with you all in 2008?
Sat Apr 30, 2016, 12:54 AM
Apr 2016

You could of elected the first Women VP in history. Why did you not vote for that ticket then?

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