2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary was always the plan.
Any reasonable person will agree that she is the favorite of the media, almost all elected Democrats, big business, the MIC, many women's groups, traditional minority coalitions and almost anyone whose situation is comfortable but who's not religiously insane or hopelessly misogynistic.
Bernie Sanders is dangerous to the bought system, and is calling for what would be a painful and frightening change into a resilient and sustainable economy. He was easily ignored for months, and then easily marginalized or demonized by that same bought system.
Donald Trump has successfully peeled off most of the "government is broken" sentiment on the Republican side, a considerable number that's apparently brought him the nomination or destruction of the GOP or both. This media-savvy campaign destroyed an entire clown car and kept the pundits happy not to have to delve into real issues; this allowed them to do the same thing on the Democratic side, keeping Clinton as the default candidate with "the math," and Sanders as the asterisk.
Trump has therefore brought us Hillary Clinton. Without his wall-to-wall coverage and "breath of fresh air," how many disaffected voters might have found their way elsewhere? How much more airtime might the Democratic race have gotten six, seven, eight months ago?
DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)Wrong
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Favorite of the media??
That's a good one
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)A statement that is not only a complete lie, it's pathetic as well.
athena
(4,187 posts)uponit7771
(90,347 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Where u been for the past 25 years?
OTOH, Bernie was treated with kid gloves by the media.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)#ImWithHer
He has been an obvious member of team Hillary since the beginning.
Edit- the question is, if it comes out that Trump entered the race to help Hillary, is it high treason?
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)the emperors have no clothes.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Ron Green
(9,822 posts)So was Bush. My point is that elections are influenced by some very big forces that just a few people control.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Who voted for the person I consider to be the best candidate. I'm tired of posters here telling me I've been duped.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)Here ya go!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)She has done well delivering ponies to her paymasters. They are riding high.
Look, if Bernie was treated fairly, he might have won. If Bernie won, there wouldn't be enough ponies to go around. If there were not enough ponies to go around some of the rich wouldn't get a pony.
America must take care of the rich. They have health care and education, and police on their side. When is the last time you heard of a rich person getting shot by a cop? Somebody has to get ponies and so let the rich have them and maybe they will trickle down on us from their high horse?
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)together...the corporate/bankster/Wall Street gang.
Depaysement
(1,835 posts)"Change" without change.
TowneshipRebellion
(92 posts)nt.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)we would have seen and heard far more competing
Democrats in this race.And look what happened to
poor O'Malley. In every debate he took part in, they
gave him the shortest time.
I really would have liked to him and Bernie as the
competing candidates, because O'Malley had some
very good proposals.
Once the Clinton machine kicked in, most people
did not want to confront them.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)is run. The media, military, wall street, and the giant transnationals always get their way. Hillary's nomination has assured that their pillaging of the 99% will continue unabated.
As an example, right now, even though I have a job and a health insurance plan through my company, I am having to save up to get some minor surgery. I am wondering how much of my life saving and retirement money these bloodsuckers will take from me before I die. I am pretty sure that Hillary and Ryan will implement some significant cuts to Medicare very soon, too.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)The whole thing is mind boggling and bizarre. I can hardly wait until after the GE to remind them of that...often.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)She was never "inevitable", it's more as you said, Bernie was new and exciting, he owns reddit, FB tumblr etc., but he could not figure out how to push the more traditional Hillary and media favorite Trump off the screen.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Occupy Wall Street had not happened, nor the particular malfeasance that brought it about. The time was right for Obama then, and just as one part of me feels betrayed by his corporate-friendliness, the other part admires his acumen and character.
This cycle is completely different; the cat's out of the bag on income inequality, climate, and other big issues, including the media's entertainment/politics continuum.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)The country as a whole often lags behind the popular mood, like turning around an aircraft carrier as they say.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)by Bernie of the remaining democratic pledged delegates was less than the percent needed by trump of the remaining republican pledged delegates. By a lot and for a while.
Obviously, the numbers are not purely comparable (two way race v multi persons race and winner take all in some states v all proportional allocation) but due to the framing of the respective races, no one even considered or noticed that.
snot
(10,530 posts)Ron Green
(9,822 posts)I wonder how, without the Trump circus, the Dem race would have played on TV. The Clown Car by itself may have been able to sustain media hegemony, but my sense is that without Trump vs. everybody else, there would have been a story on the other side, if only a lesser one.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)2 degrees centigrade and 400 ppm won't care though