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one_voice

(20,043 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:11 PM Apr 2016

Sanders: I'll fight to keep Republican out of White House if I'm not nominee

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders said Wednesday that even if he isn't the Democratic nominee, he will do everything he can to make sure a Republican is not elected in November.

"I think Hillary Clinton and I agree on this, that we will do everything we can to make sure that a Republican does not win the White House, and I will knock my brains out," he told MSNBC's Chris Jansing.

"I will work seven days a week to make sure that that does not happen if I am the nominee and if I am not the nominee. That's what I will do."

During the interview, Sanders said that "of course" his views align much more with Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton than with Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

He said he doesn't think Trump "has any judgment whatsoever."

When asked if he believes Clinton is smart, Sanders responded: "Oh, god yes, she is very smart."

Although the Vermont senator acknowledged that he's the underdog, he said he still has a "narrow path" to victory and will fight "for every vote that we can get to make that victory happen."

During a rally Wednesday, Sanders insisted that he was in the race to win it.
"Let me make it clear so there is no confusion,” Sanders said during a rally at Purdue University in Indiana. “We are in this campaign to win and become the Democratic nominee.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/277909-sanders-if-im-not-nominee-ill-fight-to-make-sure-a


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Sanders: I'll fight to keep Republican out of White House if I'm not nominee (Original Post) one_voice Apr 2016 OP
Good AuntPatsy Apr 2016 #1
I would vote for Elizabeth Warren Baobab Apr 2016 #40
Great, so explain to me (I predicted this, of course) how ANYBODY claiming to be his Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #2
Only those making that choice could explain that on an individual basis. David__77 Apr 2016 #6
Being a supporter doesn't mean that you do whatever he does. Vattel Apr 2016 #7
Holy shit was that quick, easy and convenient. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #10
lol, do I have to agree with everything he says and does? Vattel Apr 2016 #11
I suppose you can be the first. Congratulations. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #19
No. But a revolution without a strong leader tends not to get very far. onenote Apr 2016 #20
you guys are too much Vattel Apr 2016 #27
Once upon a time you thought endorsements were meaningful onenote Apr 2016 #37
I have no idea what your point is supposed to be Vattel Apr 2016 #44
That doesn't surprise me at all. onenote Apr 2016 #51
Um, sorry? Vattel Apr 2016 #69
Like I said... onenote Apr 2016 #70
Just stop. If we were mindless automatons for the Democratic party we would have voted for HRC aikoaiko Apr 2016 #23
Unless it comes to changing your positions on gun control, that is. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #17
That headline is fucked up. There is no connection between Sandy Hook and Bernie. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #24
Take it up with them. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #25
You posted it. I'm taking it up with you. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #26
Ah ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #30
Should I post some Jeff Epstein articles? Kittycat Apr 2016 #35
I will vote to keep a republican out of the White House... basselope Apr 2016 #46
Good news. nt sufrommich Apr 2016 #3
He would need to start with some of his supporters. redstatebluegirl Apr 2016 #4
Since that is not on him. Xyzse Apr 2016 #8
His supporters have minds of their own xloadiex Apr 2016 #9
show who has said they will vote for Trump 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #14
Bernie or Bust ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #21
So you're admitting that HRC cannot offer left-of-Democratic anything to vote for. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #29
I really wouldn't know ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #31
I think we found something we can agree upon - you don't know if HRC can offer lefties anything. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #32
I see what you did there. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #33
She will not be president. basselope Apr 2016 #48
Wishful thinking? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #53
Just a factual analysis basselope Apr 2016 #54
If you say so. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #55
I know so. basselope Apr 2016 #56
I believe that you believe that when you say what you believe ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #57
I don't say I believe.. I tell you what I know. basselope Apr 2016 #58
Ooooook now. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #59
Sorry the truth hurts. basselope Apr 2016 #60
How many Republicans do you know? nolawarlock Apr 2016 #61
No you don't. basselope Apr 2016 #62
We'll see. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #63
There's nothing "to see". basselope Apr 2016 #64
Kick (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #5
His supporters are everything else but sheep. sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #12
Yeah, like gun control. Nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #52
Ya "gun control", that tired meme pinebox Apr 2016 #66
too bad Bernie. If it's not you, the only thing left are republicans. 2pooped2pop Apr 2016 #13
Good man OKNancy Apr 2016 #15
If Hillary was doing everything SHE could Waiting For Everyman Apr 2016 #16
Bernie, good for you. Thanks for saying it. You always have, when asked directly. moriah Apr 2016 #18
i guess we will really see if it was a cult of personality and not about the issues. artislife Apr 2016 #22
Jill Stein is not a Republican. eom Hiraeth Apr 2016 #28
Still shilling for third party I see. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #34
Nor is she a real candidate. Bleacher Creature Apr 2016 #36
Both of the REAL candidates are under investigation. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #38
A whack you say? pinebox Apr 2016 #68
Please read the TOS of this site. moriah Apr 2016 #39
Bernie Sanders is still in it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #41
Jill, however, is a spoiler. moriah Apr 2016 #42
I will not vote for Hillary Clinton, no matter what the TOS on a website says. basselope Apr 2016 #49
Make sure one is not elected in November, he said treestar Apr 2016 #45
Start fighting. n/t savalez Apr 2016 #43
Good to hear Dem2 Apr 2016 #47
Trump lacks judgment? greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #50
That's the Bernie I knew we'd hear n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #65
I just LOVE Bernie. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #67
Hehe, "anything that I can.." Maybe he knows Hillary's chances would be slim in GE Joob Apr 2016 #71

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
2. Great, so explain to me (I predicted this, of course) how ANYBODY claiming to be his
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

supporter wont also do this?

David__77

(23,421 posts)
6. Only those making that choice could explain that on an individual basis.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:17 PM
Apr 2016

I think it's probably that many individuals voted or will vote for Sanders and don't have 100% agreement with him. I don't know that they would necessarily make the same calculations that he would make regarding the general election.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
10. Holy shit was that quick, easy and convenient.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:21 PM
Apr 2016

Amazing!

Not much of a supporter, if you ask me, if you are willing to dump on him the minute he tells you something you dont want to hear.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. No. But a revolution without a strong leader tends not to get very far.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:06 PM
Apr 2016

The test of Bernie's leadership will be how his supporters react if he's not the nominee and he urges them to support Clinton. I, for one, am Sanders' supporter (with $$ and my primary vote) who will become a Clinton supporter (with $$ and my vote) if, as appears pretty likely at the moment, she is the nominee.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
23. Just stop. If we were mindless automatons for the Democratic party we would have voted for HRC
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:18 PM
Apr 2016

Supporters can disagree with Bernie and still be good Bernie supporters.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
17. Unless it comes to changing your positions on gun control, that is.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:02 PM
Apr 2016

I don't have much of a horse in Bernie's domestic arms race, but I do find it fascinating how many staunch anti-gun folks changed their positions so that everything they believe and do reflects their sainted candidate. Is this a candidacy or a religion? Who can say?



Source: New York Daily News

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
25. Take it up with them.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:21 PM
Apr 2016

Since Fox News is the new go-to source for so many on DU now, I can't see a problem with the New York Daily News.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
35. Should I post some Jeff Epstein articles?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:42 PM
Apr 2016

Because Hastert received his sentence today. In my general post sentence searching, all types of articles pop up tying Trump & Clinton to Epstein, and they were on the plane and island. I just, I don't know. If we're going to play the six degrees of separation game with headlines.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
46. I will vote to keep a republican out of the White House...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:32 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton is a republican, so I won't vote for her.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. He would need to start with some of his supporters.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

They see Bernie or Bust, some have even said they will vote for crazy ass Trump.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
8. Since that is not on him.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:20 PM
Apr 2016

That is dependent on each individual voter.

Clinton is not owed those votes. She must campaign for those votes herself. To assume or expect them to go to her is the height of entitlement.

If she does become the nominee, I will vote for her. I just won't be helping in the campaign.

There are other democrats that I'm going to concentrate on.

Forgive me, this was in response to post 2.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
21. Bernie or Bust ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:07 PM
Apr 2016

... is busted. I think Bernie knows as much as any of us with two brain cells to rub together that 90% of the Bernie or Busters are really Green party or other third party voters that were never going to vote Hillary anyway. Why cry over milk you never had in the fridge to begin with? I think that leftmost corners of the Democratic party are going to realize how truly terrible the Republicans running this year are and support Hillary.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
33. I see what you did there.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:36 PM
Apr 2016

You just changed terms. You said "left-of-Democratic" before. I think she offers lefties in the Democratic Party plenty.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
57. I believe that you believe that when you say what you believe ...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:48 AM
Apr 2016

... but I believe that what's really happening is ...

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
58. I don't say I believe.. I tell you what I know.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:50 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton will not win the general election.

She will never be president.

Sorry.

It's just the way it is.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
60. Sorry the truth hurts.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

The funny thing.

You know I'm right.

Anyone with ANY political analysis can see it.

She can't win Florida. She can't win Ohio.

She can't win.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
61. How many Republicans do you know?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:55 AM
Apr 2016

I know quite a few, and they all despise Trump. They don't like Hillary either because they think she's too far left (an interesting irony you get to hear more often when you have friends of many strips) but most will definitely vote for her over Trump.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
62. No you don't.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 12:59 AM
Apr 2016

I know you want to tell yourself this to make yourself feel better...

but, come on. Wake up and smell the cat food.

Florida and Ohio (and even Wisconsin) have been set up a GOP win. It would take OVERWHELMING turnout to overcome the voter ID laws and voter suppression the GOP has put in place.

Clinton lacks the depth of support to overcome that.

Trump has a huge advantage, he gets to 6 months to re-invent himself and an October surprise when Hillary's transcripts are released, just like Romney's 47% comment.

Democratic turnout was already going to be depressed.

Now they have an uninspiring candidate, with mountains of baggage fighting against a multi-billion dollar machine that has spent years waiting for the moment to take her down.

Her actual chance is 0.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
64. There's nothing "to see".
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

The only chance the democrats have left is an indictment against her to drive her out so a candidate with the power to turnout independents shows up.

Clinton, no matter who she picks as her VP, doesn't have the depth to win Florida or Ohio.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
12. His supporters are everything else but sheep.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:28 PM
Apr 2016

They listened to his policies and agreed with
most of them. Thus, if these policies are not
in HRC's playbook, they feel no need to vote
for her.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
66. Ya "gun control", that tired meme
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:10 AM
Apr 2016

when the candidate you support was nicknamed Annie Oakley and painted POTUS as being "too liberal" on gun control and recently held a fund raiser with NRA lobbyists. You've been both a sucker and a mark.
Hi Camp Weathervane, we see you.







 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
13. too bad Bernie. If it's not you, the only thing left are republicans.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:56 PM
Apr 2016

I don't see a path without any dems. (non DINO)

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
16. If Hillary was doing everything SHE could
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:58 PM
Apr 2016

she wouldn't be running, as someone under active investigation by the FBI. So her statement to that effect is a lie.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
18. Bernie, good for you. Thanks for saying it. You always have, when asked directly.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Apr 2016

I'm sorry that people who have worked for your election, paid or unpaid, have made you look bad by suggesting you wouldn't do exactly that.

I agree that you can't snap your fingers and make everyone who supports your vision vote for the Democratic Nominee -- you are running a campaign, not a cult -- but these type of statements DO help.

Thanks.

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
34. Still shilling for third party I see.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:37 PM
Apr 2016

I can't believe I had an opportunity to truck this out twice in five minutes.

Bleacher Creature

(11,257 posts)
36. Nor is she a real candidate.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 07:48 PM
Apr 2016

She's a perennial loser and a whack whose entire basis for running is to act as a spoiler (for the benefit of the Republican nominee).

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
68. A whack you say?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:13 AM
Apr 2016

Tell us, where does Jill stand on the issues that make her a whack? We'd all like to hear that seeing as how you must know.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
39. Please read the TOS of this site.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Apr 2016


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moriah

(8,311 posts)
42. Jill, however, is a spoiler.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

I wish the mechanics of our country's twisted voting process didn't make her one.

But until we get the real revolution -- ranked choice voting -- we are stuck.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
49. I will not vote for Hillary Clinton, no matter what the TOS on a website says.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:34 PM
Apr 2016

I will continue to speak my opinion on this until I can't do that anymore.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
67. I just LOVE Bernie.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 01:12 AM
Apr 2016

"I will work seven days a week to make sure that that does not happen if I am the nominee and if I am not the nominee. That's what I will do." <---- another reason why I just love Bernie Sanders despite what craziness coming from the Bernieorbust camp.

Joob

(1,065 posts)
71. Hehe, "anything that I can.." Maybe he knows Hillary's chances would be slim in GE
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:36 PM
Apr 2016

and will go Third party to PREVENT Republicans! Just saying.

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