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think

(11,641 posts)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:37 PM Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders Goes All-In On California Primary, Plans Big Rallies

Bernie Sanders Goes All-In On California Primary, Plans Big Rallies

April 27, 2016 2:23 PM

SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) – Facing an uphill battle to defeat frontrunner Hillary Clinton, Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Bernie Sanders is reportedly laying off staff and focusing his campaign on the California primary in June.

In an interview with the New York Times, Sanders said he would lay off hundreds of staff, particularly in states which already held primaries. The senator from Vermont also said he plans to move staff to California, where the primary will be held on June 7th.

“Symbolically and in terms of delegates, if we can win the largest state in this country, that will send a real message to the American people and to the delegates that this is a campaign that is moving in the direction it should,” Sanders told the newspaper.

Sanders also said he hoped to hold rallies for “hundreds of thousands” in the Golden State in the coming weeks....

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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/04/27/bernie-sanders-california-primary-big-rallies/
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Bernie Sanders Goes All-In On California Primary, Plans Big Rallies (Original Post) think Apr 2016 OP
Good luck, but she can clinch before California. CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #1
Hillary can get to 2383 in pledged delegates before California? CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #7
Wrong question. Can she get to 2,026 PDs before CA, same answer. No. morningfog Apr 2016 #67
No she can't. Math! morningfog Apr 2016 #66
In 2008 Hillary was all big on big rallies. She learned her lesson. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #2
Small gatherings of extremely wealthy people is better strategy Svafa Apr 2016 #3
Its easier for her to listen. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #6
As we saw in the BLM protest video, she sure does a lot of listening. Svafa Apr 2016 #9
Not true. I heard so much about the listening CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #10
She seems to have gotten more votes than Bernie. How did that happen? Gomez163 Apr 2016 #12
Closed primaries Svafa Apr 2016 #14
They worked fine when Obama beat her. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #19
Were independents Obama's biggest base? Closed primaries are a very big obstacle Svafa Apr 2016 #24
You're not going to like these numbers: onenote Apr 2016 #26
Well, she's received half of the campaign contributions that Bernie has received CoffeeCat Apr 2016 #20
Elderly people dont go to rallies. They just show up and vote and go home. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #21
+1 CorkySt.Clair Apr 2016 #42
lmao. Marr Apr 2016 #15
...to billionaires. dinkytron Apr 2016 #45
well MFM008 Apr 2016 #8
Very important issues matter to Sanders and his supporters. single payer, breaking up TBTF banks, think Apr 2016 #13
Again how exactly can Bernie fix this? Demsrule86 Apr 2016 #22
How can Bernie fix it? Bernie is doing what he can by discussing it. As people begin to realize think Apr 2016 #28
He can end it by DISCUSSING it? lanlady Apr 2016 #48
Hillary won't even discuss it and has been a complete road block. She even took money from the group think Apr 2016 #49
I am not mocking single-payer lanlady Apr 2016 #71
Bernie never claimed getting single payer was going to be easy and has suggested it would take think Apr 2016 #72
As Think said, it may take years. thesquanderer Apr 2016 #63
Plenty of Free Mumia at those rallies. Gomez163 Apr 2016 #46
I don't remember that democrattotheend Apr 2016 #11
Drive for show, putt for dough alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #36
Because Her Entire Public Campaign ... IS FAUX! Remember The Legal Issues... The Are On The Way! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #65
Plans Big Rallies... workinclasszero Apr 2016 #4
Bernie & his supporters care about big issues Hillary isn't addressing. Single payer for starters think Apr 2016 #17
They HAVE worked for him -- Won some states, close in others Armstead Apr 2016 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author MFM008 Apr 2016 #5
My brother texted me today that he will vote for Bernie artislife Apr 2016 #16
Good to hear. It's not over until all the votes are counted. /nt think Apr 2016 #18
Yeah but the problem is who's been doing the counting Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #31
You mean the HillVac 3000 Personal Vote Tabulator is not good enuf? FlatBaroque Apr 2016 #38
LoL Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #70
we are hosting two staff members who will arrive this evening.... amborin Apr 2016 #25
Very cool Best of luck to you in the days to come! /nt think Apr 2016 #29
Does anyone know WHY California's primary was pushed so late? moriah Apr 2016 #27
Cal should be first - I't representative of teh Nation Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #30
In 2008, California voted on Super Tuesday.... so it really is something I wonder about. moriah Apr 2016 #32
Well....Dosen't the DNC have ALLOT to say about the Schedule? Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #33
That's what I want to see... when, and the reason given... moriah Apr 2016 #35
It was a Schwartzenegger think, IIRC Retrograde Apr 2016 #50
I believe DWS scheduled southern states likely to favor Hillary first Samantha Apr 2016 #53
I understand that's what you believe... but do we know of anything about... moriah Apr 2016 #56
ROFL Rallies alcibiades_mystery Apr 2016 #34
Yay! Yay! It's our turn! dana_b Apr 2016 #37
Woo hoo! Go Bernie! You do us proud. n/t JimDandy Apr 2016 #39
Kandrnt Rebkeh Apr 2016 #40
LOFL. JaneyVee Apr 2016 #41
It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic Tarc Apr 2016 #43
If you're gonna lose, lose BIG! savalez Apr 2016 #47
please, please hold a rally in sacramento, bernie! shanti Apr 2016 #44
If Bernie can crush Oregon and California, hold on to your hats. We can make it happen:) litlbilly Apr 2016 #51
Onward to the West Coast, to the Left Coast kind of Progressive. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #52
I saw how well big rallies worked in new york beachbum bob Apr 2016 #54
Issues my friend. The issues matter. Single payer, ending the drug war, breaking up criminal banks think Apr 2016 #58
They have up to now...hasn't made a difference. brooklynite Apr 2016 #60
America is the only one of the 25 wealthiest nations that doesn't provide universal health care think Apr 2016 #61
So we shouldn't have passed ACA because it's not as good as the SP program we couldn't get passed? brooklynite Apr 2016 #62
We shouldn't work to make sure EVERY American is covered? The ACA isn't going anywhere and it's think Apr 2016 #64
If we can help Bernie crush Oregon and California, the games changes dramatically. litlbilly Apr 2016 #55
There's NO BUSINESS like SHOW BUSINESS... brooklynite Apr 2016 #57
William K black would make a great Attorney General. What do you think? think Apr 2016 #59
Love it. Go Bernie! morningfog Apr 2016 #68
Can't wait.. Heard on the news tonight HRC just set up camp in town today. (Oakland) 2banon Apr 2016 #69
 

Gomez163

(2,039 posts)
2. In 2008 Hillary was all big on big rallies. She learned her lesson.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:39 PM
Apr 2016

Now she does small gatherings.

Svafa

(594 posts)
3. Small gatherings of extremely wealthy people is better strategy
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

than speaking for free at large rallies. It also speaks volumes about her.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
10. Not true. I heard so much about the listening
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:44 PM
Apr 2016

that she was doing so I went to a rally myself.

Nope. No listening. Just talking.

She can't draw the crowds. Bottom line.

Listening...oh boy.

Svafa

(594 posts)
24. Were independents Obama's biggest base? Closed primaries are a very big obstacle
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:13 PM
Apr 2016

for anyone with greater appeal among independents than the party base.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
26. You're not going to like these numbers:
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:14 PM
Apr 2016

Number of open primaries to date: 13

Popular vote in those 13 open primaries:

Clinton: 5.5 million
Sanders: 3.95 million

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
20. Well, she's received half of the campaign contributions that Bernie has received
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:03 PM
Apr 2016

She's lucky to draw 500 to a rally, while he attracts 28,000.

She has to pay people to maintain a supportive internet presence, because apparently not enough organic support exists.

It's odd, isn't it? Makes you wonder...especially after watching all of the unprecedented chaos in all of these caucuses and precincts.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
13. Very important issues matter to Sanders and his supporters. single payer, breaking up TBTF banks,
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:50 PM
Apr 2016

a living wage, ending the death penalty, ending the war on drugs, reducing prison populations, working to reduce climate change, paid family leave...

And many other issues...

America is the only one of the 25 wealthiest nations that doesn't provide universal health care

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/sep/01/dan-gecker/dan-gecker-says-us-only-wealth-nation-without-univ/

Tens of millions still have no health insurance. Thousands dies every year in the US due to lack of adequate healthcare.

Issues matter to Bernie Sanders and his supporters. Some of us want to catch up with the rest of the civilized world.


Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
22. Again how exactly can Bernie fix this?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

We have gerrymandered House...do you think the GOP will cave to Bernie? Never happen. The only thing we can hope for is court picks and to win in court and end the gerrymander by 2018 or elect Dem governors and legislatures in 16 and 18.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
28. How can Bernie fix it? Bernie is doing what he can by discussing it. As people begin to realize
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:19 PM
Apr 2016

America is being left behind hopefully they'll join in the fight.

It's a national disgrace that American continue to die and go deep in debt due to health care when so many other wealthy nations have already accomplished the goal.

It may take years still but if you don't fight for it we'll always be the only wealthy nation that fails it's citizens in this area.

Hopefully Hillary and her supporters will quit being a negative force against single payer. Single Payer is or should be an issue all Democrats support.





lanlady

(7,134 posts)
48. He can end it by DISCUSSING it?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:21 PM
Apr 2016

So as president he will "discuss" single-payer and all those Republicans who have voted 60 times to repeal ACA will somehow magically go along with him?

Surreal!

 

think

(11,641 posts)
49. Hillary won't even discuss it and has been a complete road block. She even took money from the group
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:26 PM
Apr 2016

trying to stop single payer in Colorado.

You and Hillary can continue to mock single payer on behalf of the insurance industry that paid her $225K while America remains the only wealthy nation on the globe that doesn't provide universal health care.

Keep being a road block and mock what every other wealthy nation has achieved. Thanks...

lanlady

(7,134 posts)
71. I am not mocking single-payer
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:06 PM
Apr 2016

I've always been in favor of universal health coverage, thank you very much. Lived in Europe for many years and know quite well that it is preferable to the mess we have in this country now.

What I AM calling into question is this pie-in-the-sky notion that Bernie will be able to get anything past the GOP-dominated Congress we have now, much less by "discussing" it. I guarantee you he will get nothing done, and end up discrediting the Left's entire agenda. He'll be run out of town in 2020. If not sooner.

Are the past 8 years of GOP obstructionism and attacks on a moderate Democratic president not clear enough to you? Good grief - What are you Bernie supporters smoking that you think a self-described socialist will fare better than Obama? Give me the specifics of what pieces of legislation a President Sanders would introduce as of January 2017 and how he will steer them through a hostile Congress. Please, just this once, I'd like for a Bernie supporter to say something that is grounded in the reality-based world.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
72. Bernie never claimed getting single payer was going to be easy and has suggested it would take
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 05:15 PM
Apr 2016

a fight where people needed to become involved including working to change the makeup of congress.

But if you think single payer or any form of universal healthcare will ever come to be without bold leadership that not reality.

And when Hillary is taking millions from health care corporations who don't want the system to interrupt their profits and Hillary says single payer will never happen it's obvious she is not the leader we need to make these changes happen.

Thank fully now very late in the game she's bringing up a public option again but this is after slamming single payer and claiming it will never happen.

Hillary Clinton Once Again Backs the Public Option. What Took Her So Long?

By Jordan Weissmann - FEB. 23 2016 10:11 AM

Hillary Clinton is once again embracing the public option. As Politico noticed Monday, the presidential candidate has added a section to her website stating that she still supports the concept of creating a government-run health plan to compete against private insurers, which she also backed backed during her 2008 campaign.

The public option was a deeply popular idea among progressives during the legislative battles over the Affordable Care Act in 2009 and 2010. Advocates argued it would lower costs and possibly serve as a bridge toward a single-payer system. The proposal also polled extremely well with the public. But it died rather brutally thanks to opposition from more conservative Senate Democrats, including Nebraska's Ben Nelson, and independent Joe Lieberman. (In its place, we got Obamacare's nonprofit health care co-ops, which seem to have been a flop so far.)

Read more:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/02/23/hillary_clinton_once_again_backs_the_public_option_what_took_so_long.html


thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
63. As Think said, it may take years.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:59 PM
Apr 2016

And another Congress, or two, or three. But you need to start somewhere. Assuming Bernie doesn't get the chance to start it with this election, it will be at least another 8 years before another president will have the opportunity to take up the mantle (since after 4 years, either Hillary gets re-elected, or she gets displaced by a Republican).

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
11. I don't remember that
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:45 PM
Apr 2016

In fact, I recall her mocking Obama's big rallies while doing primarily smaller events, just as she has done this cycle.

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
65. Because Her Entire Public Campaign ... IS FAUX! Remember The Legal Issues... The Are On The Way!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:09 PM
Apr 2016

Watch THIS...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. Plans Big Rallies...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

Because they have worked so well for him in the past.

I bet they will be on or next to colleges and Universities as well.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
17. Bernie & his supporters care about big issues Hillary isn't addressing. Single payer for starters
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

America is the only one of the 25 wealthiest nations that doesn't provide universal health care

http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2015/sep/01/dan-gecker/dan-gecker-says-us-only-wealth-nation-without-univ/

Some of us want to catch up to the rest of the civilized world...

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
23. They HAVE worked for him -- Won some states, close in others
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:09 PM
Apr 2016

Don't keep perpetuating the falsehood that sanders campaign has been a failure.

All of the conventional wisdom was that he would be lucky if he got 10 percent in the votes and polls.

He's getting around 40 percent ion votes overall, and close,l tying or leading on polls.

Response to think (Original post)

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
16. My brother texted me today that he will vote for Bernie
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:53 PM
Apr 2016

and we discussed what we will do in November.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
27. Does anyone know WHY California's primary was pushed so late?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:16 PM
Apr 2016

I know there were issues in the 2008 process with some states jumping the gun and not really having a great deal of interaction with voters because so many states voted at the same time, but personally I would rather have redder states like mine be the late showers up at the party if there have to be some, rather than bluer ones.

And I am asking for, like, Party document minutes or something like that, or explanations for the decision contemporary to the time it was made, FYI, please. (i will count suggestions that Hillary is capable of single-handedly running a machine that really has destroyed every bit of Democracy in the Democratic Party as an endorsement of her being the most qualified to do whatever it takes to keep the GOP from winning in November.)

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
30. Cal should be first - I't representative of teh Nation
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:23 PM
Apr 2016

Iowa , NH and the Confederacy sure as hell aren't

moriah

(8,311 posts)
32. In 2008, California voted on Super Tuesday.... so it really is something I wonder about.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:34 PM
Apr 2016

Arkansas did, too, but we kept our date. I can see why our state's party might have fought hard to keep the early date with a Clinton in the race -- that it could take Arkansas back purple, and maybe undo the fact we lost a LOT of our Blue Senators and Representatives to Congress.

But if a state has no possibility of ever, ever going Blue.... if anyone has to be disenfranchised in choosing the Blue nominee.... it's them, not California.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
35. That's what I want to see... when, and the reason given...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:42 PM
Apr 2016

... for the change.

Hence my snark about the idea that if people suggest someone is really capable of such horrific things (as the GOP has been messaging about Hillary for decades) it's giving them power.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
50. It was a Schwartzenegger think, IIRC
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:30 PM
Apr 2016

He though California would have more clout and attention if it went earlier. All it ended up doing was costing the state more money, since we regularly have elections scheduled in June anyway.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
53. I believe DWS scheduled southern states likely to favor Hillary first
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:46 PM
Apr 2016

so she could rack up an early lead and start the "I am inevitable" mantra. During the time frame those states were voting, Bernie and O'Malley were still impeded by The Big Ignore. At that time, a high percentage of the people had not even heard Bernie's name. To place California in the first round would not have served their political goal. IMHO

Sam

moriah

(8,311 posts)
56. I understand that's what you believe... but do we know of anything about...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:51 PM
Apr 2016

... when the decision was made?

Here's an actual article I just found, though.

http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2016/03/15/why-is-californias-presidential-primary-so-late

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
37. Yay! Yay! It's our turn!
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:50 PM
Apr 2016

FINALLY!

So glad that my daughter and I will get to see the person that we think should be the President.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
43. It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:12 PM
Apr 2016

It is also a shame that he is still planning rallies, which are huge resource rains on local towns & cities and police & fire personnel and the like.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
58. Issues my friend. The issues matter. Single payer, ending the drug war, breaking up criminal banks
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:52 PM
Apr 2016

These things matter and people should be able to vote for the candidate that is making an effort to do something....

 

think

(11,641 posts)
61. America is the only one of the 25 wealthiest nations that doesn't provide universal health care
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:55 PM
Apr 2016

Thanks for your help with that.....

brooklynite

(94,598 posts)
62. So we shouldn't have passed ACA because it's not as good as the SP program we couldn't get passed?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:59 PM
Apr 2016
 

think

(11,641 posts)
64. We shouldn't work to make sure EVERY American is covered? The ACA isn't going anywhere and it's
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
Apr 2016

better than before. But it shouldn't be the end game.

You should know better than others how America ranks for health care compared to the rest of the world. We're not number one. In fact far from it.

Tens of millions of Americans still have no insurance now. Millions more can't afford their deductibles and prescription drugs.

We are the only wealthy country that fails to provide universal healthcare for it's citizens.

Why shouldn't America catch up with the rest of the civilized world in this regard?



 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
55. If we can help Bernie crush Oregon and California, the games changes dramatically.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:49 PM
Apr 2016

Lots of time till June 7th. All in on CA is a good move. Oregon is a lock, so CA all in...

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
69. Can't wait.. Heard on the news tonight HRC just set up camp in town today. (Oakland)
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:07 PM
Apr 2016

Will be gathering with my peeps, it's going be an interesting set of events coming up.

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