A new age is dawning

[angrychair]

I am so excited. A new age of responsibility in government is approaching.
No longer will there be a need for bribery laws or any other laws that deal with government officials taking money from government contractors or other organizations. No more arguments about Citizens United or "dark money" or any of that other nonsense. What would be the point? If you cannot prove an explicit, unequivocal quid pro quo, than why can't members of Congress or other government officials and contractors give $200,000, closed door, no transcript, speeches to organizations like Goldman Sachs? if you can't prove anything and they say it didn't influence their decision, it shouldn't be an issue. Finally, we can stop making a big deal about it. No more laws or rules about taking money will really help senators and representatives and other government officials make ends meet and stop living hand to mouth.

Now that Clinton will be president, I look forward to her executive order allowing all executive branch officials and government contractors to give and receive all the money and gifts they want? If it cannot corrupt or influence decisions than why are these laws preventing these honest people from making a little money on the side or getting a free trip to Disney Land for their family. No harm can come of it, so why make an issue of it? Taking millions of dollars from someone, for a 20 minute speech on ethics for example, doesn't mean you won't do your job, right? I look forward to this new age of government!

[Kittycat]

1. We should also get rid of the Honest Leadership & Open

Government Act.

Lobbyist? Advisor? What does it matter if they are registered or not, since they can't influence anyone.

[brewens]

2. We'll need bigger currency denominations. "Old Hickory" can be back on one of those.

He invented the spoils system didn't he? He could be on the new $100,000 dollar bill to make all that cash less bulky and more convenient to carry around.

[msongs]

3. oddly enough evidence and proof are the generally accepted requirement of charges of crime nt

[angrychair]

10. I agree, not my point

i am agreeing with Clinton and taking her at her word that it possible and realistic to take millions of dollars from organizations and it have zero influence on policy decisions. Given that perspective, what I assume should happen is the the next logical step.
Why, do you feel different?

[randome]

4. Oh my God! The angry chair that Eastwood was talking to has come to life!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

[Uncle Joe]

5. Quit bogarting and pass that bong over here!

Thanks for the thread, angrychair.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

6. That sort of behavior will still be prohibited ...

... by anyone not named Clinton, Rodham, or Mezvinsky.

Gotta protect the brand and the monopoly.

As Vito Corleone would say, "family".

[felix_numinous]

7. Yummy

frackwater cool aid gets you comfortably numb!

[Rebkeh]

8. If this is what it takes to wake people up, so be it. nt

[Armstead]

9. If only we cold bring this guy back...he'd be perfect to lead us

[NorthCarolina]

11. You can clearly see the influence of corporate interest money reflected in the legislation passed.

It's no secret unless you simply choose to live in a constant state of denial. Why does Hillary support fracking? Money. Why does Hillary love trade agreements so much? Money. Why is Hillary against a medicare for all, single payer healthcare plan? Money.

Oh but we have to deal with the GOP and they won't let us do those things. Bullshit. Money.

This isn't rocket science.

[angrychair]

14. Your argument is ridiculous

There is no way to prove that giving someone millions of dollars influences their political decisions, Clinton said so. We need to stop whining and complaining about citizens United and so-called "dark money" and move forward. Clinton is the herald of a new golden age for government.

In fact, if you think about it this could become a great way to cut government cost. We can offer the option to no longer get a salary and a government official's pay can be tied to the amount of money he can get from outside organizations, without limits. It's an amazing idea to cut government costs.

[BreakfastClub]

12. Democrats have long taken money from Wall Street. Do you hate FDR too?

Was he a terrible president who was on the take? He was financed by Wall Street. You need to do your research. Bernie was a socialist, not a democrat, and yes, he didn't take any money from Wall Street, but he's the ONLY ONE. All modern day democratic presidents have had their campaigns financed by Wall Street. Stop singling out one candidate. Do you hate Obama too? What a bunch of hypocritical BS.

[angrychair]

13. I never said anything about Sanders

I am supporting Clinton's own intellectual argument, it has nothing to do with Sanders or any other politicians. Your argument only supports my opinion. Given your statement, then these type of restrictions are pointless and not needed. Wipe them from the books, stop whining about Citizens United and so-called "dark money" and let's move forward. I agree with you.