Democrats, THIS Is Why You Need To Fear Hillary Clinton: She Is A Bigger HAWK Than Republicans

[AzDar]

From The Link:

Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is even more of a war hawk than her Republican counterparts, the U.S. newspaper of record says in a new report.

“How Hillary Clinton Became a Hawk,” a long-form article published this week in the New York Times Magazine, details how Clinton’s hyper-hawkish “foreign-policy instincts are bred in the bone,” based on what one of her aides calls “a textbook view of American exceptionalism.”

Clinton’s extreme belligerence “will likely set her apart from the Republican candidate she meets in the general election,” the Times explains, noting “neither Donald J. Trump nor Senator Ted Cruz of Texas have demonstrated anywhere near the appetite for military engagement abroad that Clinton has.”

In the 2016 presidential campaign, the report concludes, “Hillary Clinton is the last true hawk left in the race.” The almost 7,000-word piece in the New York Times, which endorsed Clinton, details how, as secretary of state, Clinton pressured President Obama to take more aggressive military action in a variety of conflicts, including Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, Syria and more.

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Clinton asked Keane to be a formal policy adviser, yet he refused — not because he opposed her, but rather because he would not endorse any candidate.
Keane was one of the architects of the 2007 Iraq surge, in which President George W. Bush ordered an additional 20,000 soldiers to be deployed to Iraq. At the time, with her forthcoming first presidential campaign, Clinton said she was against the surge. Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates later revealed in his memoirs that Hillary had told him her opposition was a strictly political move, a disingenuous attempt to get more votes from a war-weary public.
Clinton went on to privately admit to Keane in 2008 that she thought the surge was successful and had been a good idea. As secretary of state, she pressured the Obama administration to keep more troops in Iraq.

Read the rest (and weep) @ link:

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/27/democrats_this_is_why_you_need_to_fear_hillary_clinton_the_ny_times_is_absolutely_right_shes_a_bigger_hawk_than_the_republicanse/?

[djean111]

1. Which is why I will not support her.

Excuse Hillary's penchant for war for the sake of party unity? How fucked up is that!?

[SidDithers]

2. 1664 to 1371...nt

Sid

[lumberjack_jeff]

22. Add three zeroes to that first number and it closely represents her body count. n/t

[Dem2]

3. Wars started by Hillary:

0

[firebrand80]

4. Bigger than Mr. "Carpet Bomb Isis?" nt

[AzDar]

6. Bernie wants to 'carpet bomb ISIS ' ?

[firebrand80]

11. you said she was a bigger Hawk than GOP candidates nt

[AzDar]

13. Assuming you've READ the article...

[actslikeacarrot]

5. I don't think she is a bigger hawk than republicans, but she is a hawk.

Which means we have a choice between two Hawks in the GE. I've already taken my loyalty oath but nothing short of Clinton swearing that she won't escalate or start new wars will make me feel good about my vote.

[AzDar]

7. As described in the article, her word isn't worth shit...

[actslikeacarrot]

18. Probably not, but I'm still going vote for her...

...and here is why: I think, at this time, the quest for the U.S. to have a progressive and sane foreign policy is a lost cause. It's a choice between hawk vs. hawk. But I feel she is better on domestic issues than trump. And that's pretty much it. Gotta fight for what we can I guess, even though US troops and foreign nationals will continue to die, and that is a damn shame.

[Nonhlanhla]

8. It is ontologically impossible to be a bigger hawk than the Republicans.

Even though Hillary, like many Dems, is somewhat hawkish.

[Tarc]

9. At this stage of the primary season, what do you hope to accomplish?

[AzDar]

10. Hoping to stop an impending disaster... what do YOU hope to accomplish?

[Tarc]

15. I hope to nominate the candidate with the most pledged delegates

which Hillary has a pretty airtight lock on at the moment. Sanders has two avenues left;

1) Mount the mother of all Hail Mary comebacks and crush Clinton in the remaining contests st the clip of 65-65%, surpassing her in pledged delegates, then the superdelegates will switch and cast their votes for him.

2) Finish behind Clinton in the pledge delegate count, an mount the mother of all Hail Mary comebacks and convince the superdelegates to vote for Sanders instead.

So which are you backing? If #2, I'd be curious to hear the rationale as to why that is not a subversion of the will of the voters.

[NanceGreggs]

19. And how do you plan to "stop" anything?

HRC has the nomination. Bernie can't catch up to her vote/delegate count. Posting anti-Hillary bullshit on the internet isn't going to change that, or stop her from being the nominee.

[uponit7771]

12. no.. stop...k? tia

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. Yep. More useless war and more payoffs for the MIC. K&R

[AzDar]

17. All of her 'investors' are expecting a nice ROI, I'm guessing...

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

20. But..but..she's our militarist(D). Like LBJ.

And, this time it will be different.

[nolawarlock]

16. So, are you saying we should support the Republicans? nt

[JTFrog]

21. YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!!!!11!!! N/T

[onehandle]

23. Now that we are in the General Election, OPs like this are not helpful. nt

[LondonReign2]

24. Third Way Republicrats are totally on board

[TowneshipRebellion]

25. This is what the moneyed elites want.

Things are going according to plan, just accept it. Just sit back and TAKE it like a good American.

[MrWendel]

26. Then...

vote for Trump.

[antigop]

27. So send this link to the HRC supporters you know...

http://www.goarmy.com/learn/apply.html

[bjo59]

28. I fear there might be a lot of Democrats who are also

Hawks, even if not demonstratively so. Hillary Clinton makes no secret of being a Hawk and I can only imagine that most of her supporters support her, in part, for this reason. This country is highly militaristic and I would imagine that a large part of the population subscribes to the "we've got the guns and we're going to use them!" worldview. How else to explain the fact the US has been using visiting its military might on the world for most of the 20th and all of the 21st centuries?

[amborin]

29. she's a neo con with terrible judgement; Libya and Syria are in chaos, thanks to her decisions;

as Dr. Jeffrey Sachs noted, she obstructed the 2012 UN peace accord in Syria; then lied about it during the Milwaukee debate

[vintx]

30. K&R