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It's too late for Bernie to get on the ballot to run as an independent. (Original Post) CK_John Apr 2016 OP
But not Old Codger Apr 2016 #1
+1 dana_b Apr 2016 #4
That is not an option in all states. SamKnause Apr 2016 #11
Seriously? casperthegm Apr 2016 #12
Yes. SamKnause Apr 2016 #14
That's is some BS. Nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #36
I checked online this morning and that is the case for unauthorized write ins in NC BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #16
40 states do allow write-ins and almost all the Dem states are in that category. n/t JimDandy Apr 2016 #33
What is the point of a write-in? Nonhlanhla Apr 2016 #17
Well we all know how big a factor that will be anigbrowl Apr 2016 #18
I'm in Mississippi and they don't count write-in votes, so I guess I'll just stay home... Luciferous Apr 2016 #30
Tell us something we didn't already know. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2016 #2
He said that he wouldn't do that dana_b Apr 2016 #3
Has the "write-in" brigade appeared yet? If not, they should be arriving soon. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #5
First reply... SidDithers Apr 2016 #6
Thanks! I still haven't finished unignoring ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #9
The US should have *none* as a choice on our ballots. JimDandy Apr 2016 #38
How can Clinton or Trump get on the ballot with a March deadline? HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #7
Answer: they already have ballot access by virtue of prior vote-getting performance brooklynite Apr 2016 #13
Most state filing deadlines are in August. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #21
If you see them on the ballot they are on the ballot now. CK_John Apr 2016 #24
Ballot access deadlines vary by state, most are in Aug. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #26
Thanks for posting the correct info. OPs should be required to correct false factual info JimDandy Apr 2016 #39
He was never going to do that, he made that very clear. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #8
Two are many states? Brother Buzz Apr 2016 #10
Now that we are in the General Election, OPs like this are not helpful. nt onehandle Apr 2016 #15
I guess you're in a parallel universe where John Poet Apr 2016 #22
Aaa......did the primaries finish? peace13 Apr 2016 #23
Looks like we're still in primary mode here. grossproffit Apr 2016 #29
He'll cut a deal with Jill Stein to take the Green Party line KingFlorez Apr 2016 #19
I doubt you'd be willing to put money on that prediction. onenote Apr 2016 #35
The ONLY states with 'sore loser' laws which apply to John Poet Apr 2016 #20
That's probably not true, but it's moot. MineralMan Apr 2016 #25
+1000. Great post. Once the GE candidates go through R B Garr Apr 2016 #40
worry much? warrprayer Apr 2016 #27
I always took Sanders at his word that he would never fo such a thing. hrmjustin Apr 2016 #28
Bullshit. Why lie about it? djean111 Apr 2016 #31
Gee, I Hope So Vogon_Glory Apr 2016 #32
I don't know of any states that have a March deadline to get on the GE ballot onenote Apr 2016 #34
Bernie should not run as an Indy bigwillq Apr 2016 #37
GOOD! That's why Hillary didn't destroy him early ericson00 Apr 2016 #41
Also, he said he wouldn't and we can take him... actslikeacarrot Apr 2016 #42

SamKnause

(13,107 posts)
11. That is not an option in all states.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016

I called my Board of Elections.

Ballots with write-ins are tossed.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
16. I checked online this morning and that is the case for unauthorized write ins in NC
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

There is some kind of petition process to go through for for a candidate to be qualified as a write in. Write in votes for anybody else are tossed.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
17. What is the point of a write-in?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:04 PM
Apr 2016

How does it help you achieve progressive goals? How does it help to elect sensible government?

Do you think anyone cares about write-ins? Do you think they sit there and think, oh geez, if only we had nominated this candidate who has gotten some write-ins, the crazies on the right would not have won? Do you think it really conveys a progressive message to the DNC? No, all it conveys to them is that the progressive wing cannot be relied on to support the Democratic coalition. So next time progressive voices will get ignored even more.

 

anigbrowl

(13,889 posts)
18. Well we all know how big a factor that will be
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

It'll be this >< big.

I'm not going to suggest you should vote for Hillary but if you're still dreaming of some miracle scenario by which Bernie gets elected President then maybe it's time it's to take a step back from politics and ask yourself if you're following a realistic strategy..

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
9. Thanks! I still haven't finished unignoring ...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

... it's a pretty tedious task to get it all finished in one fell swoop. (It's easy to accumulate them day by day, week by week, month by month.)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
38. The US should have *none* as a choice on our ballots.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:28 PM
Apr 2016

Since we don't, as an election integrity activist, I am all for people utilizing other outlets, if there is not a candidate on the ballot that they can support in a race.

Currently, people who are faced with those kind of races have only 3 choices: not vote (worst choice); leave the race blank (second worst due to election fraud-workers/others having been caught filling in a blank race on a ballot with the candidate they supported) or write in a candidate (best choice). But writing-in a candidate is only available in 40 states and is encumbered by a myriad of non-uniform rules from state to state, so it is not a robust option.

Sadly, we are discussing this on a site that has an artificial constraint on voters' abilities to freely discuss utilizing the best option, the write-in, as an appropriate and legal mechanism to vote for their candidate of choice, currently because of the 'Bernie or Bust' movement that is promoting this method.

In reality, that constraint actually makes it never a good time to discuss this.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. How can Clinton or Trump get on the ballot with a March deadline?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

It sounds like your pulling your 'facts' out of thin air. It is true Bernie and the GOP nomination loser(s) can't get on the ballot as third party candidates in several states. But for candidates the ballot deadline is in the fall... Several conventions are in August.

brooklynite

(94,592 posts)
13. Answer: they already have ballot access by virtue of prior vote-getting performance
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

The major Parties just have to notify the Secretaries of State (or other Election supervisor) of their Party choice.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
26. Ballot access deadlines vary by state, most are in Aug.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

See link at my other post. You are incorrect that the GE deadline was March. In fact, earliest deadline is in Jume.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
39. Thanks for posting the correct info. OPs should be required to correct false factual info
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:52 PM
Apr 2016

if they were made aware of their error.

Brother Buzz

(36,444 posts)
10. Two are many states?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

South Dakota and Texes are the only two states that wouldn't allow Sanders on the ballot. And if you think about it, that's no great loss because I don't believe he would carry either state.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
22. I guess you're in a parallel universe where
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

the rest of the primaries scheduled through June 14 will not be held.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
19. He'll cut a deal with Jill Stein to take the Green Party line
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:06 PM
Apr 2016

She'll basically already offered it to him with her open letter.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
20. The ONLY states with 'sore loser' laws which apply to
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:08 PM
Apr 2016

presidential candidates are Texas and South Dakota. That's IT.

Many states DO have such laws applying to most other offices, but not the presidency.


I have no idea about filing deadlines, however.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
25. That's probably not true, but it's moot.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:19 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie Sanders wouldn't do that. He has said so over and over again. It's not going to happen.

Some may write his name in. Their votes won't even be counted in most states. This is just another fantasy from people who simply can't stand that voters have decided that they want Hillary Clinton on the GE ballot.

Like most fantasies, it will fade in the light of the day before long. A tiny minority will sit out the election or do some symbolic thing like writing Sanders' name in. They won't matter. It's an important election and the two candidates will be very, very different from each other. Turnout will be extremely high. Probably even higher than 2008. It will be one of those elections everyone will remember voting in, just like 2008.

Hillary will win. She may well win in a landslide. That's sure what I'll be working toward, anyhow. She may flip a few red states in the process. She'll win every state Obama won. In fact, Obama will campaign strongly for her, and his popularity will help bring out the voters.

Peoples fantasies will not be how this election goes.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
40. +1000. Great post. Once the GE candidates go through
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

even a couple media cycles, most people will unify naturally because of the sheer offensiveness of the GOP anti-liberal spin. It's already started with Trump saying Hillary has nothing going for her other than being a woman. That's already taken over the media just how idiotic that sounds.

I think you're right: Hillary will win in a landslide and only a small minority will sit out.

And TWO historic candidates since 2008. I do remember the night Obama won!! Cant wait until Nov. this year.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
31. Bullshit. Why lie about it?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:29 PM
Apr 2016
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

look halfway down - Petition signature requirements for independent presidential candidates, 2016. The earliest filing deadline, for three of the states, are in May and June. Most are July and August.

Isn't that Google thingy grand?



Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
32. Gee, I Hope So
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 03:30 PM
Apr 2016

Gee, I hope it's too late. As much as I admire Senator Sanders and his successful effort to steer the political conversation to the left of where the Rethuglies took it, I have bitter memories of the 2000 election and Ralph Nader's Indie run giving Dubya the White House.

Trump is far worse than even Shrub.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
34. I don't know of any states that have a March deadline to get on the GE ballot
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:35 PM
Apr 2016

if they did, then there would be no Democrat or Republican on the GE ballot since the parties don't pick their nominees until July.

About a dozen states have GE ballot deadlines before the end of July (some in June, most in mid to late July). Another a dozen or so have deadlines by the first week of August. The rest, with a few exceptions, are in mid to late August.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
37. Bernie should not run as an Indy
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 04:38 PM
Apr 2016

I would have been ok with him running as an Indy from the start, but he shouldn't now that he decided to run as a DEM.

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