Bernie Sanders supporters are all dumb young misogynists who know nothing about politics and aren't

[DFab420]

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real Democrats anyways...


But now that we are needed to drum up support for Hillary Clinton we will all clearly become advocates for her platform right? I mean party unity and all that....

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You're right I forgot how racist we are too.

[vintx]

1. What is it that Hillary's supporters were saying last time around?

Party unity, my ass?

Yes, I think that was it. ...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. some were, and they were roundly chastised

as well they should have been

[CorporatistNation]

84. The "Unity" Ship Has Sailed Ain't Happening...They Think That We're A Bunch of Spineless Hypocrites?

I mean supporting Hillary is antithetical to EVERYTHING Bernie's campaign IS about! To sign on to supporting the bought and paid for Wall Street Corporatist preordained next in line candidate for the preservation of the status quo for the Oligarchy.... NoF'inW!

The status quo must be disassembled. Stepping away from this responsibility and voting for the above described self anointed candidate dismisses "The Revolution," and requires swallowing corporatism which as a requirement to do so is patently unacceptable. Whatever she says she cannot be trusted to keep a promise.

This pulling her to the left business is pure idiocy. She has not dreamed all of her life about having the power of the Presidency to abrogate it because she "made some promises" to a bunch of "communists! We have plenty of time left for events to occur...

Think FBI revelation one way or the other and a whole lot of people who are not very happy about all of the OBVIOUS election fraud that has taken place beginning in Iowa and has been ongoing such that they may be thinking about what this all means when democracy is being assailed.

Go BERNIE... You and me and the people are making HISTORY no matter what and the Establishment cannot stand it!...

[Carolina]

96. K&R

especially: supporting Hillary is antithetical to EVERYTHING Bernie's campaign IS about! To sign on to supporting the bought and paid for Wall Street Corporatist preordained next in line candidate for the preservation of the status quo for the Oligarchy....

[oldandhappy]

2. unity!!

WOW But she made it clear she is winning and does not need our 9 million plus votes.

[Hiraeth]

3. 9 million. hella sit in come November. weather is usually pretty bad that time of year, too.

[yourpaljoey]

8. Mr T agrees; he is bringing his 1987 Chevrolet G20 van... and milk for all.

[Hiraeth]

12. but, will there be cookies?

[yourpaljoey]

25. Mutt of course!

I offered to help and he said:

'Quit yo' jibber jabber, yo makin' me mad sucker!
Pity the fool who thinks he can make cookies like Mr T... plus, I'm hella fast!'

[yourpaljoey]

4. That sums it up. It's a love/hate thing: Go (away!!) Third Way!

[sufrommich]

5. Do whatever you want.

The vast majority of both Sanders and Clinton voters will be moving on to the General.

[Betty Karlson]

45. You, of all people, claim to speak for Sanders supporters?

Here are some disturbing facts: even by the most generous standards, only 40 % of Americans could be considered Democrats / leaning-Democratic. The independents (between 36 and 40 % of the voters) are a group that Clinton enjoys dismal support with. Sanders' democratic supporters may well start leaning toward holding their nose and vote against whomever the GOP fields, but his overwhelming support among independents may very well NOT come along. They wouldn't be independnt if they acred about party unity, you see?

[sufrommich]

47. I don't have to speak for Sanders supporters,the

exit polls speak for them. The Sander's Internet Temper Tantrum Brigade is a paper tiger.

[Betty Karlson]

52. Oh we are back to the "it's just the internet" stage of the primaries now?

You said the same when Sanders candidacy was announced, back before Iowa. "No, his support is just some keyboard-warriors. The polls all say that he will win Vermont andmaybe one more state".

Yeah, that was... quickly disproven. Why are you so keen on being wrong again when the GE takes place? If you refuse to learn from history, it is bound to repeat itself.

[sufrommich]

54. If you want to believe there's going to be a huge PUMA backlash

against Clinton from Sanders supporters,have at it. The exit polls say differently.

[Betty Karlson]

57. Not PUMA. Sanders' democratic supporters will mostly vote D. It's the 40 % independents that would

not come out for Clinton, and sit on their hands. They could go PEMA: Political Establishment My Ass. Clinton polls dismally with independents, and no amount of loyalty oaths among Democrats is changing that.

[sufrommich]

62. The whole 40% of independents won't vote for Hillary?

Prove it. There's wishful thinking and then there's concrete facts.

[Betty Karlson]

64. I agree that my words were an inartful way to put it, but the point still stands:

if a sufficiently large part of those 40% decides to go PEMA, Clinton loses - and her loss would reverberate all down the ticket. And with Clinton's team merrily burning bridges to Sanders' independent supporters, the chance of a Clinton disaster in the GE is not negligeable. The 20th century is over, politics as usual is over. Clinton pretending that 1999 never ended will do her no good in the end.

[sufrommich]

67. Do you remember at the end of the 2012 election when

the GOP publicly sent out a explanation of why they lost the election? They determined this:The GOP cannot alienate women and minorities and win a national election,the numbers are impossible,or as Lindsey Graham put it "we're running out of angry white guys",now look at who their nominee is going to be,it's going to be Trump,the poster boy of racism and sexism. The real change in the 21st century isn't a movement to independents,it's been proven that people who call themselves independents aren't as independent as they claim,they tend to vote whichever way they lean,the real sea change is the rise of women and minorities as "must haves" for winning elections.The Sanders campaign is actually a perfect example of this new reality.

[Betty Karlson]

77. Without millennials, the Democratic Party has no future.

And male and female millennials are NOT happy with Mrs. Status Quo, however much they loath the angry white guys the GOP is running.

[apnu]

59. This presumes all independents are Bernie supporters

Independents, in past elections tend to sway between conservatives and liberals. Also there's a lot of people who sit out elections for one reason or another. This is true of Republicans, Democrats and Independents.

I think your numbers are far to general.

Many of Bernie's supporters are young first time voters. While that's great, they're about to get a dose of political reality. The first heartbreak is always the worst.

They are going to learn, like it or not, that politics is about compromise. This country is in a shitty way because we are failing to compromise and work together for a common goal. And we'll continue this slow crash until we stop with all this partisan bickering and start working together on common needs.

Bernie people claim to be the smartest ones in the room, I'm waiting to see if that's true. I'll know if they hang around for the GE and stay involved and stay true to their progressiveness and work to steer the Democratic party left or not.

Its up to them. I'm on board with whomever the Democratic nominee is and I will bellow at them to represent my progressive interests.

[Betty Karlson]

63. Oh those young whippersnappers; what do they know?

Maybe once they have wisened up, in 20 years time or so, we will deign to take an interest in their political opinions.

[passiveporcupine]

71. compromise? Is that what is missing?

They are going to learn, like it or not, that politics is about compromise. This country is in a shitty way because we are failing to compromise and work together for a common goal. And we'll continue this slow crash until we stop with all this partisan bickering and start working together on common needs.

You mean like the Republicans who compromised with us over the last eight years and will probably be even worse if Hillary wins. They legitimately earned the name "Party of NO".

Since Democrats won majorities in the House and Senate in 2006, Republicans have adopted the political tactic of “just say no” as a governing philosophy.

Part of the reason “just say no” worked for so long is that it’s hard not to blame the party in power when legislation fails.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-meadvin/the-death-of-just-say-no_b_799167.html

For the first two years of President Obama’s administration, the Republicans were the Party of No, obstructing every one of the president’s initiatives to address the pile of problems left behind by George W. Bush, all for political gain. But after winning control of the House in the 2010 midterm elections (as well as state governor’s mansions and legislatures across the country), the Party of No morphed into something else, fully embracing a far-right, Tea Party-driven, wealth-and-business-obsessed, social and fiscal conservatism that sits to the right of even Ronald Reagan.

The GOP is now the Party of F You.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mitchell-bard/the-gop-has-gone-from-the_b_865511.html

You ain't seen nothing yet from those guys.

We've always been willing to compromise...so much so that our party has drifted way right as we've compromised on way too many issues. And most of them still failed because the GOP refused to compromise even when we were giving them huge gimmees.

I don't know how old you are, but many of the thirty and under crowd who are supporting Bernie, are married and have kids and are pretty concerned about our future and the planet, and if we keep compromising the way we have been, there's not much left to give away. And not much hope for our future.

[Generic Brad]

82. Anarchists Unite!!!!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

6. did anyone actually say that

or did people point specific acts of misogyny by specific people?

i'm going to guess it was said about you, so instead of accepting any form of responsibility, you decided to make misconstrue what was said.

[Arugula Latte]

11. There have been several sweeping accusations of sexism made against non-Hillary supporters.

I say this as a woman and a feminist who would love a female president ... Elizabeth Warren, Jill Stein, some true progressive ...

[La Lioness Priyanka]

13. anyone that says ALL bernie supporters are misogynists? or sexist?

[JonLeibowitz]

65. That is what the Bernie bro smear is all about.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

70. no, it isn't. women are allowed to discuss how a bunch of guys harass

and thread-stalk them on social media for not supporting Bernie. That is certainly not saying all of his supporters are bros or sexist. or even the bros are sexist.

maybe the person who posted this thread was accused of sexism legitimately, and then tried to spin it.

[passiveporcupine]

80. If you think we haven't all been labeled berniebros,

You haven't been paying attention.

[NCTraveler]

20. You don't need to go further than the first three sentences.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511850129

[JesterCS]

86. Check my post history

Where I start with "you sir are an idiot"

[dana_b]

9. lol... yeah, right

except that many of us aren't even Dems so....

they want Hillary, they can have her. Many of us indys want nothing to do with her. Nothing.

[Punkingal]

15. I'm still a Dem, but I don't like her because she isn't, IMO.

[dana_b]

19. well you're one of the true progressive Dems

The other side of the party doesn't like to acknowledge your existence - until they want your vote

[Punkingal]

34. I am well aware they've kicked me to the curb.

And I intend to change to Indie...just haven't done it yet.

[dana_b]

37. Well when you do...

welcome. We are the largest block of voters in the U.S. and growing!

[emulatorloo]

10. Strawman n/t

[Dem2]

14. Unrec

[Arugula Latte]

16. My "dumb young misogynist Berniebro kid-who-wants-a-pony" said he will not vote for Hillary

under any circumstances. He is sickened by how corrupt and two-faced and conservative she is. Reports from his college are that the feeling is very widespread.

Plus, Hillary will tack ever more rightward towards the general and that is not gonna help her win converts from our side.

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. I like being called irrelevant

It's more sounds more sensitive when they speak to us that way.

[NCTraveler]

18. Not even close. Most are great progressives.

For transparency.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511850129

[JustAnotherGen]

21. Nope - no one expects that

Just stay out of my way when this 'mean girl' in is tweeting pics of Melania naked.

I'm over Sanders - and I'm on to being vicious to the Trumps.

[IdaBriggs]

22. DU is always an educational experience.

I have been told repeatedly by Hillary supporters that I am not a real Democrat, my issues don't matter and neither does my vote. Hillary even gave a nice little "fuck you" speech. I'm not worried - but I won't cry over an FBI indictment. I wouldn't believe her or the DNC folk if their tongues came bronzed.

[RKP5637]

35. The democratic party is gone, compared to what it was when I joined, so I left! We will vote

democratic by the candidate, but not as directed by the DNC/DLC/DWS.

[wendylaroux]

72. right here^^^^ by the candidate. nt

[seabeyond]

23. I expect nothing from you DFab. The vast majority will be comfortable voting for Clinton.

[Hiraeth]

33. you hope.

[MineralMan]

42. Yes, we all hope that will happen.

You can help.

[seabeyond]

44. All indicators state this. We had the same garbage in 2008 and the majority came thru.

[Hiraeth]

46. garbage/we. garbage in. garbage out. gigo.

[seabeyond]

48. hmmmm.

Anyway, I am at work so I can't listen to the video. I hope I remember when I get home. Thanks.

[Jim Lane]

81. No, the vast majority will vote for Clinton -- but "comfortable" is probably now out of reach.

Yes, some will be comfortable voting for her, just as some at the other extreme won't vote for her at all. For many (perhaps most) of us, though, it will be a vote against the Republican nominee, nothing more.

Suppose the person ahead of me on line is enthusiastic, and the one behind me is comfortable. That I find it the most depressing presidential vote of my life doesn't matter. We count as three votes for Clinton. Settle for that.

[seabeyond]

83. No, the two polls said they were good with voting Clinton. It is the handful of extremist throwing

fits on the likes of Du. Du is not the norm.

[Jim Lane]

92. April polls aren't a great predictor of November action, especially with regard to turnout

Only a handful of Bernie's supporters will vote for Trump. The bigger problem for Clinton, if she's the nominee, will be the people who don't bother to vote at all.

No one will tell a pollster, "I think Clinton is better than Trump but I'm sure that, in November, I'll be too lazy to drag my ass to the polling place." Many will sincerely expect to cast a vote, even if Bernie's not on the ballot, but quite a few will find, on Election Day, that they simply lack the motivation.

I agree with you DU is not a random cross-section of the electorate, or even of the Democratic Party. Nevertheless, no one should blithely assume that virtually all Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton. Most will. Those not doing so, however, will go beyond a "handful of extremist{s} throwing fits".

I disagree with your colorful denunciation of supposed extremists. Even if you consider it to be accurate, however, you might consider whether such disparaging talk is helpful or harmful to your candidate's prospects for the general election. As the OP and some of the responses make clear, many Sanders supporters are unhappy about the gratuitous insults that have been hurled on this board, to say nothing of what happens on the Clinton-supporters sites.

[seabeyond]

93. I get you want to believe you are all that so you have power in your threat. I do not believe it so

really, meh...

I am good with it. Personally I am so tired of the damn collective tantrum. You all go at it and do you best, causing as much destruction and pain as you can. I believe the adults will rule.

[Jim Lane]

95. If you trouble to read my posts you'll see that your comment is completely misplaced

The "threat" I have made is that if Hillary is the nominee I expect to vote for her. I get you want to jump at the chance to feel superior to "Bernie or Bust" people. Personally I am so tired of the damn reading comprehension fails on DU by so many people (of all shades of political opinion).

[seabeyond]

97. My apologies.

I did not read the whole post, .... Stopped at the start.

[seabeyond]

98. Ok. Read the whole post.

I agree with you thru out your post. Mostly. I feel that the ones that won't go vote probably were the ones that didn't bother to vote for Sanders and wouldn't be there to vote in 2016 regardless who is up.

As far as being accommodating. I cannot tell you the number of times on FB I have been immediately attacked with the C word. Here on du, I cannot tell you how many times a Sanders supporters has told me I am into killing women and babies.

No, I do not have a lot of sympathy for those on Du that do not like hearing me talk about their collective tantrum.

Again, I apologize I did not read your whole post. The title alone directed me to my comment.

[ReRe]

24. Seriously

It will be interesting seeing what results from all the "party unity" that's supposed to happen sometime soon. Y'all tell me when it starts. I suppose there will be allot of hugging, kissing, parties, etc. Allot of back-slapping, as everyone remembers a year of insults.

[djean111]

31. Since there is no scenario possible in which I support a candidate who is for war and fracking and

the TPP and other Very Bad Right Wing Things, I will be sitting that out.

The insults are, really, irrelevant, and I am just happy they came from people I don't know in real life.

It is what Hillary stands for that makes it impossible for me to support her. And if this is the new Democratic Party, I am out. Easy decision.

[ReRe]

49. Yes...

... it will be very interesting to see who comes to the dance. I'm afraid it's going to be a nightmare, like no one showing up. They shouldn't have burned their bridges and sold their souls.

[Squinch]

50. I believe you have said this before. Do you repeat it so often because you think we don't believe

you?

We believe you.

[LisaM]

26. Said no one, ever. n/t

[DFab420]

39. Hahahahaha let this history rewriting begin!!

[Trajan]

55. Bald faced lying

Another detestable trait of many a Hillary supporter ....

C'mon ... Woo us some more ...

Better yet ....

[Marr]

27. Don't forget racist. /nt

[DFab420]

51. How racist of me to forget how racist we are!!!

[RKP5637]

28. Party unity in the democratic party is gone, done, finished!!! People will snark me, but I'm just

being a realist.

[MariaThinks]

29. you really like to make shit up. I have never felt that and in fact celebrate strong people on our

side.

and I would not threaten to go vote to a republican if I don't get my way.

about two months ago I thought Bernie could win. I would have been fine with that and supported him as much as I support Hillary.

[JesterCS]

85. Not made up

Check my posts. One where I reply "you sir are an idiot"

[metroins]

30. Do whatever you want

Just stop complaining.

Discussion is fine, this feels like a child's temper tantrum.

[HooptieWagon]

32. You left out Sanders Sisters are going to hell.

Truely a remarkable strategy Camp Weathervane has adopted....royally pissing off voters they'll desperately need in Nov. Fuck 'em.

[MineralMan]

36. That's a terrible thing to say.

I still hope you'll vote in November to keep a Republican bully out of the White House. I'm sure you will, after thinking about what that would mean. So will most Sanders supporters. There are many reasons to vote for a candidate, just in case you need one to think about.

[dchill]

89. Indeed. Think about who said it first.

[Sheepshank]

38. this the idiotic made up shit that loses you (personally) any credibility

NO ONE here has said such a thing, except in the convoluted recesses of your mind

[DFab420]

43. That's pure unadulterated bullshit and you know it. The context in which Bernie supporters here an

in the media have been addressed is correctly summarized in my OP. Your ignorance, either blind or willful, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

[Marr]

58. Bull. Shit.

It's your casual denial of reality that loses you (personally) any credibility.

[angrychair]

66. Classy

Coming from the person with 8 hides, including one in which you compare Sanders supporters to fungus and parasites.

[dchill]

90. Whatever. I will support Bernie Sanders through the convention.

And beyond.

[thebeautifulstruggle]

40. the difference between 08 and 16

is that the 2 candidates are much farther apart in their platforms

sure, the social issues are the same, but that's a given

[Maedhros]

41. All the childish insults that have been hurled at Bernie Supporters by Hillary Supporters

means very little to me, personally. Primaries are primaries, arguments get heated, shit happens.

However...

The Clinton campaign clearly colluded with the DNC to stifle debate. The Clinton campaign clearly used race to divide Democrats against one another. The Clinton campaign clearly benefited from vote caging.

Add all of that to Clinton's reprehensible policy positions, and it's clear that Clinton is my political enemy. I do not vote for my enemies.

[djean111]

53. You know, I don't think they get that. That's the only reason I can think of as to why they expect

party unity. They don't think the reprehensible policy positions matter, or there just don't care who gets hurt by them.

[peace13]

60. They don't care that she can't keep a story straight either.

That her position is as fluid as water. How do we trust someone like this? How do they?

[Maedhros]

69. It's more projection on their part.

They care nothing for policy and are part of a cult of personality. Thus, they assume that we are the same.

[LexVegas]

56. ...

[MFM008]

61. by the time you finish hearing Trump till November

you just might reconsider.

[lumberjack_jeff]

68. Obama did a good job of outreach to us (I supported Clinton in '08)

Clinton, in contrast, is now doing a shitty job of it. The battle lines were nearly the same; young idealistic voters vs old school insiders. The idealistic young newbies did everything right to keep a winning coalition.

You'd think it'd be the old school insiders who would have the maturity to swallow their ego momentarily and welcome the new, young voters into the party. That is not proving to be the case.

[LanternWaste]

73. Your admission may accurately illustrate you, but not indicative of even a small handful of Sanders

Your admission may accurately illustrate you, but is certainly not indicative of even a small handful of Sanders supporters.

Now... back the adult table.

[Starry Messenger]

74. Nah, just a few dead-enders.

[rock]

75. Now nobody said they were dumb

Don't exaggerate. And after all the things they've called her, how can they support Clinton without coming off as pure hypocrites? That's the problem.

[JoePhilly]

76. Oh the drama.

[beachbum bob]

78. I love sander supporters speaking on behave of Hillary

Supporters...perhaps should add that sanders supporters all look on Hillary supporters as lockstep mental morons who are happy to enrich corporate America for peanuts in return..so much fun to speak on behalf sanders and his people...this fun

[Seeinghope]

79. This is all too funny. I posted something similar to this saying that Clinton supporters were not

real Democrats and I was just about burned at the stake. I had so many hateful responses and was even reported and had ro have a jury decide on whether to keep my post up or not. So far I don't see near the hateful remarks and unless I missed it no jury...no alerts? More reasonable Sanders supporters?

[Beacool]

87. You are batting zero today, aren't you?

Start a sexist thread and get justifiably knocked for it, and now start another one where you make baseless accusations. You were called sexist, not every Sanders supporter.

[U4ikLefty]

88. I'm not young.

[akbacchus_BC]

91. Are you being sarcastic?

I really wanted Bernie to get the nomination as he seems so much more progressive. It is what it is, Mrs. Clinton will be the Democratic nominee and for sure she will become the next President of the US. Which is much better than a Trump Presidency.

[Unicorn]

94. I won't vote for her. Bernie better win because he's getting my vote either way.

My conscience prevents me from voting for her.

I don't believe she could win against trump anyway. He has one heck of a trump card - he's against the tpp so people could keep their jobs. I expect they'll look at how she helped craft it, and called it the gold standard 46 times, and will vote their best interest.

I'm not voting for Hillary for the same reason I'm not voting for the rest of the republicans. I refuse to vote in war and corpratocracy. I'm became a liberal to stop that.