Donald Trump is an unapologetic misogynist.

[DFab420]

He is going to saw awful things about HRC.

She will do what she always does and play the victim, take umbrage with the remarks and try to shame him into walking them back.

He will then LAUGH in her face because he doesn't give a fuck.

His poll numbers will increase because crazy GOPers love him and hate her.

Her poll numbers with lag as more and more independents, who the DNC already basically told off, become annoyed with her 90's style campaigning and politicking.

This is the election cycle that so many of you want to sign us up for.

[DFab420]

2. Nope. In a way you have to find it ugly that he is so up his own ass

he can't for a moment stand in the lime light and apologize for his bullshit.

If you want to find a place where you can admire Drumpf, then the door is over there...

[Sheepshank]

6. ohhh admiring the strong white bully

How do you feel about Putin?

[auntpurl]

14. Shirtless on a horse!

Big strong man!

[sufrommich]

18. His "strength of character"???

[auntpurl]

25. WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE

[sufrommich]

29. Good question. nt

[Sheepshank]

19. No I don't have to admire that homophobic ass.

but that you do is so very very telling.

[DFab420]

20. You are not going to last long here. Putin's character, however strong, is not admirable.

[auntpurl]

23. Wow, you're a real hoot.

Enjoy your stay.

MIRT!

[runaway hero]

26. I understand what you are saying

But DU is not the right place for it. Some people like those who stand for what they believe in and never back down.

[Sheepshank]

3. I think the effect of his insulting her gender will be a net negative

but, there will always be those that would never have voted for her in the first place because she is a woman.

[Svafa]

55. It seems like the more inflammatory, biggoted things he says, the more supporters he gets.

It's like we're in a bizzaro world.

[Dem2]

87. There's a ceiling for this kind of support

And no man can win without a significant portion of female votes.

[Svafa]

93. We can definitely hope.

It's scary how many backwards (and violent!) creeps he has brought out of the woodwork.

[Sheepshank]

91. yeah it's like were in opposite world

said my 2nd grader.

I honestly don't think more that 35% of the nation will go for a Trump asshole, racist, sexist, bloviating, mysoginist. And only those 35% because they are the same

[passiveporcupine]

99. Probably far outnumbered by those who will vote for her because she is a woman

JMHO

[qdouble]

4. Too bad generals elections can't be won by the white male vote anymore

or Hillary would be in trouble.

[all american girl]

24. LOL, speak for yourself.

[emulatorloo]

5. Yet another reason he won't be elected president

[sufrommich]

8. Yes,he'll get the misogynist,MRA vote.

I'm OK with that. He can have them.

[firebrand80]

9. There may be enough knuckle-draggers for him to win the GOP nomination

But the GE is an entire different ballgame.

Hillary had to put up with misogyny back when it was socially acceptable. She'll stand up to the bully and punch him right in the nose, and we'll be standing right there with her.

[runaway hero]

17. You have to bring the Bernie supporters over

That wont be easy.

[BernieforPres2016]

10. When Hillary tries to play the feminist card in response to Trump's misogyny

He's going to play back her comments from the 90's trashing Bill's girlfriends and victims.

[auntpurl]

16. "Play the feminist card"?

Do you mean stand up to Trump for his misogynistic bullying? That's Trump rhetoric, "playing the woman card".

[sufrommich]

22. +1. nt

[ismnotwasm]

34. Or the "woman card"

Shh, don't let them know, because it disturbs the narrative, but sexism is a thing that happens and Hillary has been fighting it all her life. Apparently, this means playing 'the victim card'

[all american girl]

27. You mean like being all woman-y...

[Orsino]

11. A pubescent boy who's so rich he never has to grow up...

...is less likely to become a feminist. When there are enough men around so weak as to folliw his exammple, he will never change.

[runaway hero]

13. Hillary will win

But it not be a blow out. If trump wasn't running we would be talking about improving her likability numbers.

[Hiraeth]

21. Y'all think cankles was bad? You ain't heard nothing yet. The man does not give a damn.

[Sheepshank]

30. and upto 30% of the nation will love him for that...

...and a few Bernie supporters too. Not enough to win any GE

[Hiraeth]

35. you hope.

[all american girl]

33. I'm quite sure her feeling can handle it....other women and men, well....

[MineralMan]

31. The effect of Trump attacking her as a woman

will be to increase her chances of election, not decrease them. I think you may not be paying enough attention to this campaign season.

[runaway hero]

37. Depends.

I think she will 60 percent of the Women's vote. Not 80-20 like some polls. General Election polls are useless at this point.

[runaway hero]

32. Hillary has a trust problem

And she needs to deal with that.

Bernie needs to drop out so she can do so.

[passiveporcupine]

101. So, the best man in the race needs to drop out so the woman with a trust problem can win?

Let's wait till the convention, OK? I'd really rather see the best man win than the woman with the trust problem. There is a reason she has a trust problem, and it's not anyone's fault but her own.

[auntpurl]

36. Women ARE still 50% of the population, right?

So your assertion is that Trump will attack Hillary for being a woman, then SOMETHING WILL HAPPEN, and then Trump will win?

You're missing that middle step where droves of women line up to vote for Trump.

[all american girl]

39. Maybe we will be too busy clutching or pearls to go and vote?

[DFab420]

41. So you are saying that women will vote for Hillary because she's a woman?

[auntpurl]

43. No, I'm saying they DEFINITELY won't vote for Trump

because he's a fucking asshole.

[runaway hero]

44. Ok so what about Kasich?

Kasich will definitely get more then 30 percent of the women's vote. Latinos will become a battle ground.

[auntpurl]

46. Kasich is mathematically eliminated

so unless they have the mother of all cray cray brokered conventions, he's not getting the nomination.

if they have the aforementioned brokered convention, the GOP will implode. It will be an unmitigated garbage fire. And Hillary will cruise to the WH without even needing to dirty her pumps.

[runaway hero]

48. They will

The repubs will putt out every stop to beat donald j trump, believe me. If Kasich comes out yes the crazy will sit out, but maybe they need a time out anyway.

[DFab420]

61. So you are saying that because they are women they won't be assholes too?

I'm just confused by why you think women voters won't vote Trump?

[auntpurl]

63. Then I really can't help you.

I'm guessing you're not a woman.

[DFab420]

74. Again. What is so special about being a woman that they somehow are immune from being assholes?

Or how about

What makes you think that all women think alike and all women like Hillary Clinton?

Because I was raised to believe that a man or a woman are the same, equal in every way, even the shitty fucked up ways.

[auntpurl]

77. As I said above, I didn't say all women like Hillary Clinton.

I said most women fucking hate Donald Trump because he's an asshole.

But I see that you're spoiling for a fight, and I know it was a tough night for you guys last night, so I'll leave you to it.

[all american girl]

38. LOL....sorry, really, you think she plays victim?

Yep, he will go full on crazy bully, so what else is new. I'm thinking she might know a thing or two about handling bullies. No one is afraid of Trump. The only people who are, are the one's who want something from him...she wants nothing from him.

[DFab420]

40. You're ignorant of American Politics in the last decade if you don't know

that Hillary Rodham plays the victim card basically all the time.

Even dyed in the wool Democrats know that.

[all american girl]

42. Can you site me some recent expamples. Thnk you very much.

[runaway hero]

50. The Bernie shouting thing.

That didn't go over so well with people in New Hampshire.

[all american girl]

54. I may not be remembering incorrectly, but I thought that was about her shouting

and people saying she shouldn't shout, and her supporters reminding everyone that Bernie shouts and no one tells him to stop.

[runaway hero]

59. You're right

But she was erroneously implying Bernie was sexist, which pissed at a lot of people off and cost her a state. OP's point is Trump is not going to play nice at all.

[all american girl]

68. How does being told SHE shouldn't shout and pointing out no one says anything to Bernie

about it, imply that Bernie was sexist...I would take it that it implies the person criticizing her, they are the sexist, because I sure thought those criticizing her were playing the some old stupid sexist card...girls are not suppose to raise their voices.

[runaway hero]

84. Some bum in the media said it

And then she used it against bernie at a rally right before NH. Comment had nothing to do with BS and he got burned for no reason. That rubbed people the wrong way.


Trump is different obviously.

[DFab420]

67. All you have to do is google Clinton and Victim.....

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/playing_the_victim_card_hillary_clinton_betrays_women_20160215

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/3/1479347/-Hillary-Clinton-plays-victim-card-again-but-now-on-Bernie-Sanders

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/hillary-clinton-plays-the-victim-card-008718

https://asitoughttobe.com/2015/11/10/whenhillaryclintonplaysthevictimwealllose/

http://watchdog.org/231155/hillary-clinton-emails-scott-walker/

[all american girl]

75. I only had time to look at a couple of those...Yes I will agree about acting that Bernie was

being sexist because he said shout. I will not agree with playing the victim card on her wanting to defend herself on being progressive...sorry, even she gets to make her argument for herself.

Now I'm off.

[seabeyond]

45. Ah, when men are misogynist asses saying shit, if we dare retaliate or call them, we are "playing"

The victim.

What garbage. He is far from the only misogynist.

[NCTraveler]

49. First sentence says Trump is a misogynist.

Third sentence states Clinton will play the victim.

Really messed up what is going on.

[seabeyond]

52. Really fuckin messed up and simply more evidence that Sanders and berniebros just do not get sexism

or any of the other "isms" in their privileged state.

Here we have a man who has lost DEMANDING the little woman adopt his shit to get his pat on the head.

Fuck him. !!!

[DFab420]

69. Or you could see it as an insurgent candidate unwilling to yield the party platform to the insider

but yea because he has a penis and she has a vagina its sexist.

Clinton supporters are fucked in the GE if you really think what you just posted...

[seabeyond]

83. We do not eliminate a woman candidate because there are sexist assholes out there, just like we

do not kick a black candidate to the curb cause you have racist fuckers.

[NCTraveler]

47. You op is blatantly sexist.

"Donald Trump is an unapologetic misogynist."
"She will do what she always does and play the victim"

She isn't playing the fucking victim, we are victims of Trump and his MRA brethren's misogyny. It's not fucking playing.

[seabeyond]

53. ya know? And can you say, what a fuckin stupid argument, lol Unless misogyny just is not an issue.

[auntpurl]

56. Oh, don't worry, that's ok now.

Racism and sexism are just distractions, apparently.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1850518

[NCTraveler]

64. Wow. Hard to believe some of what is going on here.

Love your sig line.

[auntpurl]

66. I mean, I know last night was hard for them.

But the amount of racist, sexist, utterly over the top crazy shit I have seen posted here today is astounding.

As a matter of fact, think I'm going to sign off and get the hell away from it for today. If not, I may violate the spirit of my own sig line.

[seabeyond]

88. The premise of the whole Sanders campaign, hence not getting our support as they stand confused

why they do not have our support. Lots of obtuseness.

[SharonClark]

96. Always plays the victim - what utter nonsense

[CorkySt.Clair]

51. Trump's toast

He will never get out from under this:

The percentages of women who had an unfavorable or negative impression of Trump in recent public polls are staggering: 67 percent (Fox News), 67 percent (Quinnipiac University), 70 percent (NBC News/Wall Street Journal), 73 percent (CNN/ORC) and 74 percent (ABC News/Washington Post).

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/donald-trump-women-unfavorable-ratings-221433#ixzz473B7lxnf

[runaway hero]

62. Those will change.

If conservative women vote HRC, they'll be used as a pinata and the base will tell them to f off 2020 if they want Haley to run.


Hillary will still win though, just not huge blowout. Remember, anything can happen in 8 months.

[CorkySt.Clair]

72. I bet they don't change much, actually.

Most women find him to be quite odious. Some may not like Hillary either but most would rather have her as President than Trump. That is the reality and it's highly unlikely trump could change that in any meaingful way over the next 6 months.

And this dynamic has really little to do with Hillary. It would be present and a huge factor, if not the defining factor, of the race whether Bernie, Warren, Al Gore or a ham sandwich were the nominee.

[runaway hero]

78. We are at the end of April. If those numbers are the same around Labour Day

Call me Ted and slap me with a balloon. Anything can happen. If this election about free trade both candidates will have to step it up.

[Svafa]

58. Sadly, this seems like a solid prediction.

[JaneyVee]

60. So youre voting Trump?

[runaway hero]

65. I hope not

I know people are mad, and yes some has to be done about free trade, but he is not prepared.

[DFab420]

70. Fuck no. I'm just pointing out how weak the presumptive Democratic nominee is.

[JaneyVee]

71. 538 shows a Hillary landslide against Trump...

And we havent even gotten to the debates where she will kick his ass up and down the stage.

[DFab420]

73. Is 538 doing general election polling? I can only find their primary polls..

RealClear has it at 8 points. Which isn't a landslide...

[runaway hero]

79. Hypotheticals right now.

Trump is in bad shape. I still think he can make this closer then what many or saying.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

76. If you are right you will just have to work that much harder to convince your family

friends, anybody who will listen to you to vote for the Democrat, even if that is Hillary.

Right?

[DFab420]

80. Oh so now you want me and my kind as advocates? I thought we were all just mindless idiotic bros

hell bent at keeping the patriarchy alive.

I dunno if my big dumb stupid man brain can carefully articulate how ridiculous that is.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

85. Me? When did this become a we vs them deal, I thought we were all liberals here?

You see I am a liberal, I will always work to make sure no GOP or conservative can ever take a position of power whether it be in politics or business, if I can.

I wont condition my belief on how I am treated by a given political candidate.

[DFab420]

86. I'm a liberal too.That's why I will fight tooth and nail to the convention to get theliberal as our

candidate.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

89. Good, do that. I was doing that in my usual way by subscribing to Bernie's emails, donating

to his campaign, going to local meet ups, forgot what they are called.

Still doing that but I have become preoccupied with this other issue I have, keeping the WH out of the hands of fascists.

[brush]

81. In your dreams. That misogynist racist is going to lose spectacularly

The Obama coalition that elected Obama twice will elect Hillary (African Americans, sensible progressive whites, Native Americans, Latino Americans, Asian Americans, gays, women)

We outnumber the angry white voters who support Trump.

Remember, Romney won a huge majority of whites in 2012 and lost handily, and he didn't get the progressive whites.

[Orsino]

82. Does he have the guts to risk losing?

His cowardice and lack of experience will be at war with his ego, and the results could be highly entertaining.

[LexVegas]

90. Sexist bullshit. nt

[DFab420]

92. Oh that's good. See this everyone right here is an example of how you lose the GE.

You literally can't think of anything worth saying the defend your choice of candidate other then making this about gender.....

Everytime HRC supporters claim sexism, falsely or rightfully, they are going to ding Hillary just a little bit. At first it will be fine, no big deal but I promise you that if you can't come up with better and more thought out discussions on whether she is right for the job then no undecided independent is going to swing for her in Nov. The narrative that Drumpf will construct is that everytime he criticizes her people cry foul. It will insulate him, he will then be able to say whatever he wants about her and her record..

Just watch.

[LexVegas]

94. Am I playing the victim card, dude? nt

[DFab420]

102. Nah Brah, just the idiot card man. Dope condescension tho.

[LanternWaste]

95. I think all the new found sentiment and support for feminism is adorable

"what she always does and play the victim, take umbrage with the remarks and try to shame him into walking them back...."

Actually, she laughed at his misogyny and used it against him, resulting in thunderous applause. No doubt, your bias compelled you to deny objective observation and ignore that (bias is tricky that way, so I understand your lack of relevance in regards to this) I think it's adorable-- all the new found sentiment and support for feminism... even when it's not sincere.

[runaway hero]

103. So now, what if Trump loses at the convention

And Kasich gets in? The only insincere thing is this idea the debate can be won anything but the issue of the day: free trade.

[SharonClark]

97. Imagine what that deranged Trump would say about Sanders

It wouldn't be pretty.

[runaway hero]

98. If Hillary is Serious.

Then pick Warren as VP. Two women vs Trump.

[BreakfastClub]

100. From the look of things, there is a lot of that around here. nt