"correct the record"

[tex-wyo-dem]

If Hillary and her supporters wonder why bringing many Bernie supporters to heel is not going to be a forgone conclusion, they need to look no further than her superPAC headed by Brock as one of the major reasons. The crap that "correct the record" (cute name, btw) has pulled on Bernie's campaign and supporters has been truly despicable...many Bernie supporters use the Internet primarily for their communication and news and are fully aware of Brock's crap that isn't going to be forgiven easily, if at all.

If she chose to associate herself with scoundrels, she must be willing to own it.

[FlatBaroque]

1. The farther Hillary Clinton goes, the bigger the disasters she will leave behind.

A look at her history should provide ample evidence.

[tex-wyo-dem]

5. Yeah, all you have to do is look at the history...

And who she has associated with and the terrible judgement she has displayed over and over again...paints a very bad picture. She would have been disqualified long ago had she not been who she is.

[bkkyosemite]

2. People are not going to forgive the dishonesty, corruption and deceitfulness at all.

[FlatBaroque]

8. I think that in her reality bubble

she is awesome and everybody will love her. Quite the opposite is true.

[Marr]

3. I agree-- this has been an unusual primary in the sense that

the two candidates are miles apart in terms of policy, and the Hillary Campaign would've had to actually be even more conciliatory, less offensive, than the standard primary campaign if it ever wanted to attract Sanders' supporters. They've done the opposite every step of the way.

Assuming Hillary gets the nomination, it's going to be a very weird general election, and she could very well end up losing it because she's gone out of her way to drive off millennials and independents.

[bbgrunt]

11. and instead she's going for the republicans.

[Old Codger]

17. She has lost

Most indies and the r's hate her more than we do... where the fuck is she going to get the votes.

[grasswire]

26. so you suspect she's trying to out Trump Trump??

Interesting. Interesting.

Geez!

That would explain all the boasting and chest thumping and arrogance and strutting.

The I I I Me Me Me she does. Trumpian?

[YouDig]

4. What did Brock actually do? There are a lot of conspiracy theories going around,

like that he brought down Bernie's facebook groups, but is there anything truthful and concrete that Brock "pulled on Bernie's campaign" that's not just internet rumor?

[tex-wyo-dem]

9. Just a couple of examples...

Brock: "Senator Sanders is trying to live in the purity bubble, and it needs to be burst,"

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-brock-bernie-sanders-218954

David Brock group hits Bernie Sanders with ethics complaints

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/david-brock-group-hits-bernie-sanders-ethics-complaints

Lots more out there.

[Dem2]

14. .

“If you study what’s being said in social media, the media that millennials are consuming, it is filled with misinformation and vicious lies and sexism in terms that you can’t even repeat from his supporters, from other trolls,” Brock said. “And you wonder why there’s such a gap in the millennial preference for Sanders over Hillary. I think if people took a look at what they’re seeing, that would account for some of [the deficit] — the fact that they have a misimpression of her."

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/david-brock-bernie-sanders-218954#ixzz472hasAxV
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I don't strongly disagree with his assessment. Does that make me evil?

Brock’s sharp elbows in dealing with Sanders have provoked the ire of Clinton aides on several occasions. Sanders has raised millions of dollars by invoking Brock’s attacks to supporters. His camp believes Clinton officials’ private-but-noisy complaints about Brock are just cover so they have plausible deniability while he does the wetwork.

OK?

[grasswire]

27. I believe the screen captures are out there that show...

...the ratfuckery on facebook. Bernie groups shut down by someone posting kiddie porn, etc.

[leftofcool]

6. Like Bernie owning stolen data?

How about the email where Jeff Weaver claims she is a traitor? Will Bernie own that. How about the fact that his supporters literally threw good AAs like John Lewis to the dogs? Will Bernie own that. I think we know who the scoundrels are!

[tex-wyo-dem]

15. There's a difference between...

Individual, uncoordinated Bernie supporters that the campaign has little control over vs an organized superPAC that pays people to launch coordinated attacks.

[azurnoir]

25. didn't Hillary/DNC/DWS all rush to hush hush it the moment Bernie filed a lawsuit?

[Dem2]

7. garbage weasel words

blah blah blah - post's like this are just an easy "trash" - occasionally I comment to let u know.

[tex-wyo-dem]

12. Whatever, have a nice day nt

[Orsino]

10. I generally dislike the phrase "look no further than" in this context...

...as it reads like a framing attempt.

The practice you allude to is certainly an indictment of the superPAC concept, but maybe not of the actual campaign or the candidate herself. But if documented, we should indeed watch how the candidate disavows or tacitly endorses it.

[Faux pas]

13. K N R-ed

[Waiting For Everyman]

16. I don't believe that cheaters should be President.

(re: elections, not spouses)

It's a quirk of mine.

In the past it wasn't this obvious before the election. Now, we are so morally and ethically bankrupt, it's done in the open and bragged about.

It isn't tough to conclude that's a deal breaker.

[Dem2]

18. Show one single proof of cheating instance

Just one. I'll wait...

[Waiting For Everyman]

19. As much as this may come as a shock to you

I don't take orders from you.

Anyone who has been on this forum during the primaries knows exactly what I'm referring to: it has been continuous. If you don't know, then too bad for you.

[NCTraveler]

22. Like stealing voter data files.

Oops.

[Dem2]

23. burden of proof fallacy, bandwagon fallacy, anecdotal fallacy

Great discussion. At least I didn't have to wait long for an answer.

[Marr]

24. Not really.

There's a difference between demanding others disprove your claims, and simply refusing to waste time proving the sky is blue to intellectually dishonest people.

[Dem2]

30. I've read every post here

Have yet to see any proof, so I asked for it. There must be a link somewhere, don't you think?

[NCTraveler]

20. Correct the Record is a brilliant move.

Those of us who have been around politics for a long time fully understand the right wing machine and propaganda from those acting as if they are agents of the left. Morons promoting Benghazi, indictments, Vince Foster and such. We have to have these resources in order to ensure progressive victories.

[tex-wyo-dem]

29. Maybe Hillary should bring Brock up on stage and...

Thank him for running such effective smear campaigns! Maybe she can invite Anita Hill, too.

Btw, I look at these actions as an attempt to manipulate public perception away from the truth. That's been apparent with the email server issues where talking points have been so obviously distributed to deflect that the issue is as just another RW attack, there's no there there, etc etc

[NCTraveler]

32. "Maybe Hillary should bring Brock up on stage and..."

I prefer the current arms reach relationship they have. A short arms reach. lol. I think that is how it can have the most impact. Not sure why she would have him on-stage. I don't see that as making any sense.

[LexVegas]

21. Like Bernie's surrogates shitting on civil rights icons? nt

[Duckhunter935]

33. And just hiw did they do that?

[JSup]

28. Correct the Record...

...isn't a bunch of trolls pulling shenanigans. It's a bunch of people posting factual information against the giant disinformation campaign against Hillary.

So now there is a disinformation campaign against them. This world is ridiculous.

The Points

http://correctrecord.org/the-points/

[tex-wyo-dem]

31. Yeah, it's a good facade. Nt

[dreamnightwind]

34. I could not possibly disagree more - eom