Bernie has 1387 total delegates. He needs another 997. There are only 1013 pledged delegates left.

[Renew Deal]

We act like Bernie is chasing Hillary but he is really chasing the finish line.

Bernie has 1387 total delegates. He is 997 short of the nomination. There are only 1013 pledged delegates left. Currently he needs 98% of the pledged delegates. It will be impossible for Bernie to win it on pledged delegates alone after Indiana.

Another way to look at it...

Hillary is ahead by 747 total delegates. There are only 1013 pledged delegates left. Bernie needs 73% of the delegates just to catch Hillary. And of course, she will continue gaining delegates in the process. So the next point...

Hillary has 2134 total delegates. She has 90% of what she needs. She is 250 away from clinching it. There are 189 undeclared super-delegates left. The super-delegates can put Hillary over the top on their own after Indiana or Guam.

Assuming Hillary does around 50% in IN, Guam, WV, KY, VI, PR, and only 33% in OR Hillary will need 94 on June 7.

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

[haikugal]

1. So???

[Buzz Clik]

10. So... math. Election. Over.

[Orsino]

17. And yet the primary ends only at the convention.

Too many people seem to think that only the winning candidate writes the party's platform. In reality, delegates count.

The twenty-nine daily "it's over" and "it's time" threads seem to miss this important point. Anyone just pulling for a candidate is missing a lot of the fun; influence and agendas are what ultimately matter.

Lobby delegates and candidates even harder now, if you want your voice heard. You can delegate authority, but not your responsibility.

[Buzz Clik]

21. Hell, have it your way: it's not over. Bernie is in the lead. Got HRC on the ropes.

He will flip superdelegates like pancakes in a greasy spoon restaurant. He will take California, Indiana, and all the remaining states and be in a virtual tie going to the convention. He will float into the convention hall on a cloud with birds flying and singing around his head, and the entirety of the convention will cheer and change their votes. Bernie will be the nominee.

[Orsino]

22. You're still talking only about a winning number of delegates.

If you watch the convention, you can get a glimpse of what all those delegates mean.

[Buzz Clik]

23. Damned skippy! The primaries mean jack!

St. Bernie will bless the crowd, and they will nominate him by acclamation.

[Orsino]

24. Well, I can only recommend watching what really goes on there.

Secretary of State is only one of the prizes at stake.

[Buzz Clik]

26. Oh, I will! I cannot wait. I've seen watched about a dozen Democratic National Conventions ...

... and none have gone the way you describe. Not one.

I will be on the edge of my seat waiting for Bernie to emerge from the ashes of his failed campaign. It should be glorious.

[Orsino]

32. Well, they certainly don't go the way you're describing.

I'm not the one saying that Sanders is going to be nominated. I'm saying that the Democratic ticket, platform and Cabinet picks are going to emerge from an enormous pile of compromise, much as anyone who watched in '08, and that delegates are prime currency that is traded for influence.

You know these thing, right? I don't know how to be clearer. Did you mistake me for an OrBuster who expects Clinton to lose?

I'm just looking for the best progressive platform I can get, and am getting used to the idea that I don't get everything I want.

[NobodyHere]

25. You forgot BernieMath

[Buzz Clik]

29. How about some Bernie Math story problems?

Q: Hillary has 2,500,000 apples and Bernie has 1,800,000 apples. Who has the most apples?
A: Bernie

Q: Bernie and Hillary want to go to a movie. Tickets cost $10. Hillary has $15, and Bernie has $8. Who has enough money to buy a ticket?
A: Hillary cannot get in because most of her money is no good. Bernie can buy a ticket because he's awesome.

[hrmjustin]

2. Sanders can not win. He can go to the last primary but the numbers will still show he lost.

[Renew Deal]

3. It could end next week if the remaining super-delegates come out for Hillary.

Or if they start flipping which in most cases they should.

[hrmjustin]

7. Agreed.

[Buzz Clik]

11. Probably not. 190 supers undeclared + 90 delegates at stake (IN & Guam)...

... She needs all the supers plus 2/3 of the available pledged delegates.

[qdouble]

4. so...

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[Renew Deal]

6. Anything is possible.

You should buy a lotto ticket today.

[Sheepshank]

5. The Race is Over...Bernie as much as admitted it

He firmly believes he has a message that still needs to be acknowledged.

Not sure if it worth all the bad publicity he continues to sow, or all the money he continues to throw away rather that donate to down ticket Democrats.

[auntpurl]

9. Or all the money Hillary has to throw away continuing to campaign

when she could be using that money in November to beat Trump, which is the ultimate goal right? We are still in favour of beating Republicans on this site?

[Sheepshank]

12. "We are still in favour of beating Republicans on this site?"

not sure.

[KingFlorez]

8. So he needs almost all everything left?

Unrealistic odds.

[carburyme]

13. LOL!

Before it's probable. Now its impossible!

But...how many times do we have to stick a fork in him? Where is SID..

[Renew Deal]

14. He's been done since last November

But some people didn't want to believe it.

[Billsmile]

15. Voting

Yesterday I cast a vote for Bernie Sanders.

It was something that I'd been looking forward to doing ever since Sanders announced his candidacy a year ago. Was glad he was still in the race & hope everyone who plans to vote for Bernie in the future gets a chance to do so.

[auntpurl]

16. Everyone who wants to can still vote for Bernie if he suspends his campaign.

The primaries will still run, Bernie will still be on the ballot. Everyone can have their voices heard.

But if he suspends his campaign, Hillary (who WILL be the nominee) can save her war chest for the GE.

[forjusticethunders]

19. To be fair, does she even need to spend on the primaries at this point?

I agree that we're into playing out the string mode, but I still want to see every possible vote counted. Besides she's already more or less in GE mode.

[auntpurl]

20. It depends on Bernie.

If he really does stick to his economic injustice message and stop attacking Hillary, then she can turn her attention to the GE. But just today, Bernie sent out a fundraising email with that picture of Hillary and Trump together at Trump's wedding. As long as Bernie keeps attacking Hillary, she has to keep running against HIM and not Trump, at least to some extent.

[Iliyah]

18. Not winner take all delegates in states like the GOP

Dem's are proportional.

[CorkySt.Clair]

27. Bernie's toast.

[morningfog]

28. This OP is a damned lie.

SUper delegates do not vote and are not bound until the convention. And you know damn well that is true.

The operative number is 2,026, a majority of the pledged delegates. Bernie has 1346 PDs (with 38 not yet divvied from last night). He needs 680 more to reach 2,026. There are 1054 left (including the 38 remaining). That is 64.5% needed.

You should edit or self delete your lie of an OP.

[Renew Deal]

30. I'm not lying and your not lying.

You're correct and so am I. Yes, they don't vote until the convention. But we don't typically wait until the convention to declare winners. We didn't for Obama, Kerry, Gore, Clinton, or anyone else in modern times.

If something terrible happens prior to the convention, it will be dealt with like we would have in all other cycles.

[morningfog]

34. No, yours is a lie. Neither candidate will be required to hit 2,383 through PDs alone,

and neither will hit 2,383 through PDs alone.

If and when one candidate reaches 2,026 PDs, it is widely recognized that that candidate will be supported by the SDs at the convention get them to 2,383 and the nomination.

Saying that Bernie needs to reach 2,383 through PDs alone and basing calculations on that figure is a lie.

[Yavin4]

31. Do you really think that he's going to win the remaining contests by a 65% to 35% margin?

Really?

[morningfog]

33. Did I say that?

What is with so many fudging math and misreading?

[Yavin4]

35. Yes. You did say that.

You stated: "That is 64.5% needed."

Which translates into an average margin of victory of 65% to 35% over the remaining contests.

[morningfog]

36. Jeebus. You asked if I really thought he would hit that. I never claimed that.