2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumStates that have not held their presidential primary elections yet should cancel them forthwith.
Convention delegates from those states should be rendered moot. Counties within those states that have budgeted for the 2016 presidential primary election should issue rebates to their residents.
The DNC can simply issue a ruling binding ALL super delegates (even those few who've come out in support of Bernie Sanders) to Hillary Clinton, thus putting her over the top.
This, so DU can pivot to the General Election, and the purge can begin. Grab your purge lists and submit them to the Admins, Hillary supporters... these are heady days indeed. Excelsior!
In happy homes he saw the light
Of household fires gleam warm and bright;
Above, the spectral glaciers shone,
And from his lips escaped a groan,
Excelsior!
"Try not the Pass!" the old man said:
"Dark lowers the tempest overhead,
The roaring torrent is deep and wide!
And loud that clarion voice replied,
Excelsior!
"Oh stay," the maiden said, "and rest
Thy weary head upon this breast!"
A tear stood in his bright blue eye,
But still he answered, with a sigh,
Excelsior!
"Beware the pine-tree's withered branch!
Beware the awful avalanche!"
This was the peasant's last Good-night,
A voice replied, far up the height,
Excelsior!
At break of day, as heavenward
The pious monks of Saint Bernard
Uttered the oft-repeated prayer,
A voice cried through the startled air,
Excelsior!
A traveller, by the faithful hound,
Half-buried in the snow was found,
Still grasping in his hand of ice
That banner with the strange device,
Excelsior!
There in the twilight cold and gray,
Lifeless, but beautiful, he lay,
And from the sky, serene and far,
A voice fell, like a falling star,
Excelsior!"
Henry Wadsworth Longfellow - 1841
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)You pretend you don't understand the OP. Or maybe it is too deep for you, but I read it as saying that some of us will continue to fight against the Oligarchy that you want us to embrace. Sorry Jake, Homey don't play that game.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Besides, why put those who've not voted yet through the humiliation of voting for a candidate who cannot win? Why submit them to the ridicule of DU?
Screw that. Let San Bernardino County send me a few bucks... I'll buy a good bottle of Cabernet and reflect. Reflect on how a usurper, a swindler, a dishonest one-note politician who's done nothing in his life but slurp at the public trough could have fooled a Prole such as me.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)there are always voters whose votes will not influence the final choice.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)You're a cut above the low post count, trolling burnouts who invaded DU the past months. Yeah, we differ on the candidates. A lot.
But, speaking only for myself, neither you nor California have been tossed in life's dumpster. It's just part of the problem with CA scheduling their primary so late. And, I don't think Clinton is the spawn of the devil I could be wrong, but that's my impression.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)It appeared to me that some didn't think there should be any Democratic Primary. That Clinton was the "chosen one" and that any primary challenge was an insult to the Oligarch gods that already had decided. Some are now already laying the groundwork for their excuse should Clinton lose to Trump by saying that it's all Sanders fault. How sad.
Clinton isn't the spawn of the devil, she is a typical member of the wealthy 0.1%. She wants to amasses as many hundreds of millions she can and willing to sell the office of the presidency to get it. She and Sanders are on opposite sides of the class war. And our side recognizes the uphill battle we have against the Rich and Powerful. I do understand why some choose to side with the Rich and Powerful, just like jr hi where some chose to hide behind the biggest bully. I do think it immoral to side with Goldman-Sachs profits over helping those among us that are suffering. And don't give me the crap that the Clinton will get the Rich and Powerful to help the poor. She might give them cake.
People are dying today of poverty. Poverty that is a side effect of the greed of the Wealthy 1%. How do you not recognize that Goldman-Sachs and the Koch Bros are not going to help those suffering among us. Never mind answering it a rhetorical question.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)The intentions of my posts are cleverly disguised as words woven into my phrases. Although some nuances may exist, I do not write in code. So, when I say, "It's just part of the problem with CA scheduling their primary so late," that's an observation, not an assessment of blame.
My comments were directed only to cherokeeprogressive, but since you decided to crash in (as usual) and start flinging excrement, let's proceed.
Sorry, rick, but I've listened to you for months, and you still don't make any sense.
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)all of the primaries and caucuses should have been cancelled; we didn't even need them. Excelsior.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)People can even vote for them!
Man, more and more this election cycle I wonder if some have ever experienced an election before.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)Since people here at DU are advocating that Skinner (essentially) call the primary over now..
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)They're advocating that Skinner move from GDP to GDE in order to stop providing a platform for the presumptive Democratic nominee to be attacked. Skinner has no control over whether Bernie suspends his campaign. He only controls what happens on this website. The primary doesn't have to be "over" for everyone to know that Hillary's won it, and it's now inappropriate to post RW talking points smearing her on a Democratic website.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Wow. Out of the woodwork they came. Pandermonium ensued.
G_j
(40,367 posts)applies that logic to the real world.
LiberalFighter
(50,943 posts)Most of these states have other contested primaries to decide. The president is not the only one on the ballot. These are primaries that they hold even when it is not a presidential election year.
RandySF
(58,899 posts)CA holds state and congressional primaries on the same day.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)this is the perfect time to extend and work on her GE message. That is the beauty of having it wrapped up now.
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)His overall message is excellent and he is a great addition to the Democratic Party.
JSup
(740 posts)astrophuss42
(290 posts)Revisions and re-revisions take time.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And lots of their fans still showed up.
MattP
(3,304 posts)There are many other important ballot items to vote for and primary gets the vote up
Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)their state's primary feel that they were being discarded and of no value to the nomination process.
Let it play out, let everyone get a chance to vote their choice.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Like disenfranchised voters in N.Y.?
I don't seem to recall much concern from the Hillary camp about those fiascos ...
Don't bother replying ... You're gone
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)sick system of bought and paid for operatives. They lie, cheat, and steal. Just look at the Clinton Foundation. Citizens United. He is staying in to rid the cancer, and make Hillary fly left. If he gets out, and she continues her mealy mouthed responses to serious issues, I'm not voting for her. It's imperative Sanders stay in to annihilate the cancer in our system.
More of the same is not what we need. She is going to follow Obama? He just used our tax dollars to fly air force one to Germany for TPP, when it's favored by 18 percent! Are you kidding me? Many countries the number are the same. But he keeps pushing.
I don't want Hillary or Bill, who sold "ooopsie" arms through the foundation while Hillary was at State. Do you think they don't know the rules? The arrogance is beyond anything of integrity.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Fuck that.
California, where I reside, doesn't vote until June.
Campaign for your candidate until the opposition drops out or just watch from the sidelines.
Until then,
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)Very dramatic sarcasm it was too!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)It was just a waste of money. After all, those of us who supported Bernie have repeatedly been told we should just go away, so why bother. Let's just anoint someone in the future and save all the money and time and angst of hoping for a better future.