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1651 to 1346... (Original Post) SidDithers Apr 2016 OP
Yup. Agschmid Apr 2016 #1
... sheshe2 Apr 2016 #2
Oh yeah! mcar Apr 2016 #3
#NeverTrump JaneyVee Apr 2016 #4
You'd think she'd lost by the looks of this place. grossproffit Apr 2016 #5
The General Election has started Gothmog Apr 2016 #6
The only numbers that will count in the end are 793 and, with a deal, 1924 leveymg Apr 2016 #7
... auntpurl Apr 2016 #10
That's as reasoned a legal argument as I'm going to get from this group. nt leveymg Apr 2016 #11
It's a ridiculous assertion and it's not worth the time to reply. auntpurl Apr 2016 #12
I said she violated her security agreement. That much is clear under law. The rest is political. leveymg Apr 2016 #13
You'd prefer Trump? auntpurl Apr 2016 #14
Absolutely not. All Hillary has to do is release her delegates. leveymg Apr 2016 #15
And for what possible reason would she do that? auntpurl Apr 2016 #16
The same reason John Deutch resigned. To avoid indictment. leveymg Apr 2016 #17
Which bring us back to, she is not going to be indicted. auntpurl Apr 2016 #18
You will see what's in the FBI Report. leveymg Apr 2016 #21
Yeah, OK. Go with that... SidDithers Apr 2016 #19
There are like 75 icons to choose from. Mix it up a little. leveymg Apr 2016 #22
K&R Fuck Trump nt NCTraveler Apr 2016 #8
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2016 #9
K&R ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #20

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
7. The only numbers that will count in the end are 793 and, with a deal, 1924
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:55 AM
Apr 2016

Here is Hillary's Security Oath and the felony statute it references, 18 USC Sec. 793. The lesser charge, 1924, is a related misdemeanor that the prosecutor allowed Petraeus to plead down to. Go ahead and read the security agreement and come back and tell us that criminal violation isn't indicated.

1) Hillary signed this document on 01/22/09:

UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2015-05069 Doc No. C05833708 Date: 11/05/2015
! I RELEASE IN PART I
B7(C),B6
---------------------------------1REVIEW AUTHORITY:
CLASSIFIED INFORMATION NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT Barbara Nielsen, Senior
Reviewer
AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN Hillary Rodham Clinton AND THE UNITED STATES
1. lntending to be legally bound. I hereby accept the obligations contained In this Agreement In consideration of my being granted access to classified information. As used in this Agreement, classified Information is marked or unmarked classified Information, including oral communications, that is classified under the standards or Executive Order 12958, or under any other Executive order or statute that prohibits unauthorized disclosure of lnformation in the Interest of national security; and unclassified Information that meets the standards for classification and is in the process of a classification determination as provided In Section 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1A(e) of Executive Order 12958 or under any other Executive order or statute that requires protection for such information in the of national security. I understand and accept that by being granted access to classified lnformation special confidence and trust have been placed in me by the United States Government .
2. I hereby acknowledge that I have received a security lndoctrination concerning the nature and protection of classified information, including the procedures to be followed in ascertaining whether other persons to whom I contemplate disclosing this Information have been approved for access to it, and that I understand these procedures.
3. I have been advised that the unauthorized disclosure, unauthorized retention, or negligent handling of classified Information by me could cause damage or irreparable injury to the United States or could be used to advantage by a foreign nation. I hereby agree that I will not divulge classified information to anyone unless: (a) I have officially verified that the recipient has been properly authorized by the United States Government to receive it, or (b) I have been given prior written notice of authorization from the United States Government Department or Agency (hereinafter Department or Agency) 1'9SJ) responsible for the classification of information or last granting me a security clearance that such disclosure is permitted. I understand that lf I am uncertain about the classification status of Information, I am required to confirm from an authorized official that the Information is unclassified before I may disclose It, except to a person as provided in (a) or (b), above. I further understand that I am obligated to comply with laws and regulations that prohibit the unauthorized disclosure of classified lnformation.
4. I have been advised that any breach of this may result In the termination of any security clearances I hold; removal from any position of special confidence and trust requiring such clearances; or termination of my employment or other relationships with the Departments or Agencies that granted my security clearance or clearances. In addition, I have been advised that any unauthorized disclosure of classified lnformation by me may constitute a violation, or violations. of Untied States criminal laws, including the provisions of Sections 641. 793, 794, 798, *952 and 1924, Title 18, United States Code, and the provisions of Section 783(b), Title 50,
United Slates code. and the provisions of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. I recognize that nothing In the Agreement constitutes a waiver by the United States of the right to prosecute me for any statutory violation..
5. I hereby assign to the United States Government all royalties, remunerations. and emoluments that have resulted, wiII result or may result from any disclosure, publication or revelation of classified Information not consistent with the terms of this Agreement
6. I understand that the United States Government may seek any remedy available to it to enforce this Agreement Including, but not but not limited to application for a court order prohibiting disclosure of Information In breach of this Agreement.
1. I understand that all classlfled information to which I have access or may obtain access by signing this Agreement will remain the property of, or under the control of the United States Government unless and until otherwise determined by an authorized official or final ruling of a court of law. I agree that I shall return all classffled materials which have or may come into my possession or for which I am responsible because of such access: (a) upon demand by an authorized representative of the United States Government; (b) upon the conclusion of employment or other relationship with the Department or Agency that last granted me a security clearance or- that provided me access ID classifled Information; or (c) upon the conclusion of my employment or other relationship that requires access to classified information. If I do not return such materials upon request, I understand that this may be a violation of Sections 793 and/or 1924, § 18, United States Code, a United States criminal law.
8. Unless and until I am released In writing by an authorized representative or the United States Government.. I understand that all conditions and obligations imposed upon me by this Agreement apply during the time I am granted access to classified lnformation, and at all times thereafter.
9. Each provision of this Agreement is severable. If a court should find provision of this Agreement to be unenforceable, all other provisions of this Agreement shall remain In full force and effect.


Sec 793 (e) and (f) linked here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251552653

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
12. It's a ridiculous assertion and it's not worth the time to reply.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:16 AM
Apr 2016

Hillary is not going to be indicted.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
13. I said she violated her security agreement. That much is clear under law. The rest is political.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:19 AM
Apr 2016

More likely, the AG will run out the clock without issuing an indictment, and Obama will end up pardoning HRC at the end of his term, just as Bill Clinton did his former CIA Director, John Deutch. But, that doesn't mean that Hillary is going to sleep in in the White House again.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
15. Absolutely not. All Hillary has to do is release her delegates.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:22 AM
Apr 2016

The Convention will decide who gets them.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
16. And for what possible reason would she do that?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:23 AM
Apr 2016

She is winning, in every sense. You'd prefer to overturn the will of the Democratic voters?

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
18. Which bring us back to, she is not going to be indicted.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:29 AM
Apr 2016

And it's still a ridiculous assertion.

You wanna go round a few more times? I've got a couple minutes before I have to go empty the dishwasher.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
21. You will see what's in the FBI Report.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 10:39 AM
Apr 2016

Given what she did, she is unviable as the Democratic candidate, and that outcome has been clear since March of last year.

There is a price to be paid for violating a security agreement. If there isn't accountability of some kind in her case, the whole national security classification system loses its credibility.

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