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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:43 PM Apr 2016

Bernie needs to suspend his campaign tomorrow!

He ought to take the loss with some graciousness.

You do know that every single other person who loses suspends their campaign and goes to the convention with their delegates intact.

So, there is absolutely no reason for him to continue this silliness.

Get out and suspend Bernie for the good of us all!

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Bernie needs to suspend his campaign tomorrow! (Original Post) boston bean Apr 2016 OP
He should, but he probably will not. beaglelover Apr 2016 #1
Bernie Is ALL About REAL Democracy... Hillary... ehhh, NOT So Much! CorporatistNation Apr 2016 #60
It's looking to me like the only Super-Predator around these parts ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #67
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #78
Good luck waiting for that FBI indictment. By the way, Free Republic is that way ========> beaglelover Apr 2016 #81
At the risk of explaining basic government to you, COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #83
Not going to happen. PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #2
Please let me vote first. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #3
you can still vote. boston bean Apr 2016 #4
He should stay in it to the end Trenzalore Apr 2016 #5
I am a supporter and I am fine with contributing. pangaia Apr 2016 #31
He can stay in its fine. Agschmid Apr 2016 #6
Let all the people vote. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #7
people can still vote. boston bean Apr 2016 #10
and Bernie can continue to campaign virtualobserver Apr 2016 #15
Wh don't we hear the O'Malley supporters stopbush Apr 2016 #23
nobody is whining.....Why don't you just relax and enjoy the ride? virtualobserver Apr 2016 #32
Because their candidate opted to quit. artislife Apr 2016 #58
Hillary won 20 delegates in RI. Sanders won 13. stopbush Apr 2016 #73
Good luck in the GE artislife Apr 2016 #93
No, he doesn't democrattotheend Apr 2016 #8
Thank you for that excellent post!!! beaglelover Apr 2016 #12
Great minds think alike lol. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #56
Why do you hate the primary process? HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #9
I don't hate them. There is no reason for him to continue on with this at this point. boston bean Apr 2016 #13
Of course you do... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #16
And what if Yi Sun-Shin had held that attitude? pangaia Apr 2016 #41
No one is stopping you from focusing on Trump. Jim Lane Apr 2016 #96
No nt riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #11
yes nt boston bean Apr 2016 #14
No he doesn't. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #17
No, the remaining states deserve to vote for the candidate of their choice. aikoaiko Apr 2016 #18
He should stay in through California. musicblind Apr 2016 #19
He's said he'll stay in through the entirety of the primary elections and he does not lie. bjo59 Apr 2016 #25
Interesting pandr32 Apr 2016 #38
Bernie should do exactly what Hillary did in 2008. Barack_America Apr 2016 #20
Her vote total then was much closer to Obama's. spooky3 Apr 2016 #22
And, thus, her remaining in the race was more harmful. Barack_America Apr 2016 #28
No, the point is she still had a chance to win. spooky3 Apr 2016 #34
Plus, she said, in a very matter-of-fact way, somebody might murder Obama. QC Apr 2016 #43
Yeah, that was pretty fucked up... Obama forgave her though uponit7771 Apr 2016 #54
Oh yeah, I remember that. nt artislife Apr 2016 #62
Bernie is affirming that ALL citizens' have a right to VOTE in their state's Primary. 99th_Monkey Apr 2016 #21
Getting nervous about that California primary? bjo59 Apr 2016 #24
Nobody here in CA believes Sanders has a chance to win over 40%. stopbush Apr 2016 #30
And Hillary Clinton will have even more superdelegates pandr32 Apr 2016 #45
It's not over yet. I vote on May 10 k8conant Apr 2016 #26
He needs a dressing down from the DNC or Senate D leadership stopbush Apr 2016 #27
So then you believe his supporters are unnecessary in the General? Barack_America Apr 2016 #33
75% of Sanders voters will vote for Hillary. stopbush Apr 2016 #40
He is fighting for human beings, not some group of pangaia Apr 2016 #46
Like he's the only one doing so. stopbush Apr 2016 #69
Just about. pangaia Apr 2016 #71
, stopbush Apr 2016 #75
Nah, the Clintons are notorious for their vindictiveness riderinthestorm Apr 2016 #64
He's the one who voted with the Democrats. artislife Apr 2016 #66
Bernie isn't just everybody else... pangaia Apr 2016 #29
Did Hillary suspend her campaign in 2008? jimlup Apr 2016 #35
He said everyone will vote. Then we'll add it all up, including her tie to Trump right now... ViseGrip Apr 2016 #36
Hillary needs too. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #37
Will Bernie do the right thing? workinclasszero Apr 2016 #39
It's gone from sad to silly to embarrassing to humiliating ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #42
At this rate, Hillary will be sworn in and the Bernie supporters still won't be ready to throw in Blaukraut Apr 2016 #44
This IS the main battle ! pangaia Apr 2016 #49
It might be to you, but it isn't to me. Blaukraut Apr 2016 #59
Boston Bean needs to suspend his (or her) posting immediately campaign tomorrow HERVEPA Apr 2016 #47
LOLO LOL $$$ pangaia Apr 2016 #63
Not this shit again. Hissyspit Apr 2016 #48
Clinton stayed in well into June, until every state voted IIRC. JimDandy Apr 2016 #50
I don't agree. Turin_C3PO Apr 2016 #51
Nope Duckhunter935 Apr 2016 #52
K&R! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #53
It doesn't sound like that's going to happen. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #55
No way, we are going to wake up all the people we can. artislife Apr 2016 #57
I really feel for the terribly heavy burden you and the rest COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #85
Thinking voodoo thoughts about her followers. nt artislife Apr 2016 #94
From Your Lips to... noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #61
Something tells me grace is not his strong suit. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #65
He should stay in until the last vote, just like Hillary did, for same reasons she did... jack_krass Apr 2016 #68
You really don't get this do you? EndElectoral Apr 2016 #70
K&R! William769 Apr 2016 #72
Sigh... SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #74
+1 JimDandy Apr 2016 #82
Let's not be ungracious, it's counterproductive. Beacool Apr 2016 #76
You know what I find funny? PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #77
There's no point in abandoning his principles at this stage. Jester Messiah Apr 2016 #79
Clinton stayed in , in 2008 until later JI7 Apr 2016 #80
You're not the boss, sorry!! nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #84
Bullshit. There is no reason for him to suspend his campaign. He still has more people to represent highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #86
That's rich TransitJohn Apr 2016 #87
He will likely do what Hillary did in 2008 and wait until the final primary. GET OVER IT. phleshdef Apr 2016 #88
Bernie doesn't need any of this... MrMickeysMom Apr 2016 #89
No he doesn't. If she needs him to drop out now cliffordu Apr 2016 #90
who made you king? the Clinton camp has been saying this since day one. and you know what hollysmom Apr 2016 #91
Millions of Democrats, myself included, have not voted yet. pa28 Apr 2016 #92
How about "NO". Does "NO" work for you? n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #95
No (nt) bigwillq Apr 2016 #97
I know right! G_j Apr 2016 #98
There's no need for him to do that officially. MineralMan Apr 2016 #99

CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
60. Bernie Is ALL About REAL Democracy... Hillary... ehhh, NOT So Much!
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

TRUTH must be told...




And ALL The People allowed to vote!

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
67. It's looking to me like the only Super-Predator around these parts ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:16 PM
Apr 2016

... is Hillary herself, and I say that as the fondest of complements because she sure has eaten the competition.

Response to beaglelover (Reply #1)

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
5. He should stay in it to the end
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

But drop the negative crap and fire Tad Devine so he isn't cashing in a salary off of his poor supporters.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
58. Because their candidate opted to quit.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

And lets face it, Bernie still winning states tonight. O'Malley never won a state at all.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
93. Good luck in the GE
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016

because everyone will be able to vote.

And most people are now deciding to vote FOR something instead of against.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
8. No, he doesn't
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

However, I do feel that at this point, he should refrain from attacking Hillary and return to his positive message. If he does that, I believe having a contested primary in later states will only help the party in November. Unlike some Bernie supporters, I do not believe that he should stay in between the last primary and the convention if he is behind, nor do I think he will do so.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
9. Why do you hate the primary process?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

Why do you hate the remaining states that should be allowed to vote in the primary process?

HRC hasn't gotten the the needed total of delegates to earn the nomination outright

Ease off your 'hatin' would ya...

boston bean

(36,221 posts)
13. I don't hate them. There is no reason for him to continue on with this at this point.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:47 PM
Apr 2016

We have a presumptive nominee on the other side, we need to focus on him, not each other when there is a clear winner here.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
16. Of course you do...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:50 PM
Apr 2016

there is no nominee yet, she hasn't reached the total needed now has she? neither has trump

If she's that weak of a candidate that she can't suffer the slings and arrows from Trump she's not worthy of earning the nomination and succeeding through the GE

There is EVERY reason for Bernie to continue...

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
96. No one is stopping you from focusing on Trump.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:44 AM
Apr 2016

If Hillary is absolutely certain to be nominated, and there is no possibility of any other result, then she and her supporters can just ignore Bernie and focus on Trump.

If you're looking only toward the general election, trash the Bernie Sanders Group, trash GD-P, put all the Sanders supporters on Ignore, and start posting anti-Trump stuff or doing whatever else you would do if Bernie DID suspend his campaign tomorrow.

aikoaiko

(34,172 posts)
18. No, the remaining states deserve to vote for the candidate of their choice.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

And Bernie's agenda deserve all the support it can gather for the convention.

For the good of all of us.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
19. He should stay in through California.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:51 PM
Apr 2016

He has a lot of supporters who have worked for him and deserve the chance to get to cast their vote for an active candidate.

I do think that he needs stop attacking Hillary from this point forward. Now is the time. He should focus on campaigning for his strengths and not against the very likely democratic nominee.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
38. Interesting
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:01 PM
Apr 2016

He has told a lot of whoppers and earned a boatload of Pinocchios. He could build a cabinet to show them off.
It is time he stopped lying and returned to some semblance of integrity. We need him to return to the Senate with the respect of his colleagues. There is work to do--progress to make.

QC

(26,371 posts)
43. Plus, she said, in a very matter-of-fact way, somebody might murder Obama.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

That was positively chilling.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
21. Bernie is affirming that ALL citizens' have a right to VOTE in their state's Primary.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:53 PM
Apr 2016

and you are arguing against ALL citizens having a right to vote,
which I find disgusting.

bjo59

(1,166 posts)
24. Getting nervous about that California primary?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:54 PM
Apr 2016

Nice to know your opinion but Bernie Sanders will stay in the primary race until the last state has the chance to vote. He's said that and he doesn't lie. Doesn't lie... unusual character trait in this day and age, isn't it?

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
30. Nobody here in CA believes Sanders has a chance to win over 40%.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:58 PM
Apr 2016

By the time our primary is held Sanders supporters will be fleeing like rats off a sinking ship.

pandr32

(11,588 posts)
45. And Hillary Clinton will have even more superdelegates
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:04 PM
Apr 2016

...a coalition in government, millions more votes from the American people, delegates enough to win, and an excellent national lead against Trump.

Great night tonight!

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
27. He needs a dressing down from the DNC or Senate D leadership
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:56 PM
Apr 2016

telling him in no uncertain terms that he risks losing every semblance of power the Ds afford him in the Senate. If he wants to continue the sham of a campaign, then fuck 'em. He's no longer going to have the Ds protection, funding or support in any way, shape or form.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
33. So then you believe his supporters are unnecessary in the General?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:59 PM
Apr 2016

What incentive is there for us to "unite" if this is how our movement is to be treated?

Expecting us all to be "brought to heel" so easily?

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
40. 75% of Sanders voters will vote for Hillary.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:02 PM
Apr 2016

The 25% that may not vote for her won't matter.

Independent voters break down evenly along party lines. They don't ever determine elections.

Elections are won by turning out your base and flipping voters from the other side. This year is no exception.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
64. Nah, the Clintons are notorious for their vindictiveness
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:14 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie already knows he's fucked. The Clinton shit list is epic. They'll ensure he's fucked from here on out.

They're going to fuck him 10 ways to Sunday.

He might as well go out swinging.

Stay in til the convention and give Hillary a personal fuck you for destroying the planet with her "incrementalism" on climate change.

We're now all fucked anyway. At least he, and I, have a clear conscience.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
66. He's the one who voted with the Democrats.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:15 PM
Apr 2016

Gee, if I were to hear that threat, I would laugh with spittle in the faces of those who were saying it.

Lose Bernie's vote in congress that is republican...go ahead. It will further prove how arrogant she and her minions are.

But wait...she isn't going to win the GE anyway.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
35. Did Hillary suspend her campaign in 2008?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 10:59 PM
Apr 2016

Not until California.

Get a grip and stop gloating. We're going to have a hard enough time towing the line... you really are not doing the party any favors by gloating.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
37. Hillary needs too.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:00 PM
Apr 2016

That is how this game works right? You can just call on a candidate to drop out of a democratic campaign?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
42. It's gone from sad to silly to embarrassing to humiliating ...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

... he needs to concede now with some dignity.

Skinner needs to call it, too.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
44. At this rate, Hillary will be sworn in and the Bernie supporters still won't be ready to throw in
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:03 PM
Apr 2016

the towel. I sympathize with them, because I was coming down on his side after a long time being undecided. But I know when it's time to lick our wounds and get ready for the main battle.

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
59. It might be to you, but it isn't to me.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:11 PM
Apr 2016

Call me a sellout or what have you, but I will take incremental improvement, or even a status quo, over complete dismantling of what we accomplished. Imo, Hillary can't do any worse - or better - than Bernie, given the state of our Senate and House and the current ideological divide.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
50. Clinton stayed in well into June, until every state voted IIRC.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:07 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie is going to give supporters in every state the opportunity to vote for him, as it should be.

Turin_C3PO

(14,004 posts)
51. I don't agree.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:08 PM
Apr 2016

I think he should focus more on just his positive message and leave Clinton alone but I want to vote for him in New Mexico, even if it's symbolic. There's nothing wrong, imo with all the states having their say. I would be opposed to him contesting the convention and expect that he won't do that.As I've Said,I like Hillary but I think Bernie's message needs to stay on the news.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
57. No way, we are going to wake up all the people we can.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:10 PM
Apr 2016

I don't care if hurts her. It is only her words and deeds that are doing it.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
85. I really feel for the terribly heavy burden you and the rest
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:52 PM
Apr 2016

of Bernie's cheerleaders are forced to carry, waking up all the dumb people who just aren't smart enough to realize on their own what a godsend Bernie is. How do you manage to carry on?

 

jack_krass

(1,009 posts)
68. He should stay in until the last vote, just like Hillary did, for same reasons she did...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:18 PM
Apr 2016

And I hope it annoys the hell out of you.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
74. Sigh...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:23 PM
Apr 2016

I really don't get why you (y'all) care so much.

I'm highly unlikely to give Hillary any $$$ in the general. (At one time I said I would, and work for her too. Sorry, voting is all the enthusiasm I have left.)

So my Bernie $$$ are not taking a thing from Hillary. I wouldn't mind spending them in peace. Hectoring is not likely to change any of my opinions or actions, if such is your aim. If your aim is otherwise, well, carry on.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
76. Let's not be ungracious, it's counterproductive.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:24 PM
Apr 2016

Sanders won't be the nominee, but just like Hillary in 2008, he has a right to stay until all votes have been cast. Pushing him out before all states had a chance to vote will only serve to anger his supporters. The same people that we will need in the GE.



PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
77. You know what I find funny?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:24 PM
Apr 2016

Hillary won Maryland but the clear Bernie Democrat won the primary. Tell me how Jamie Raskin WON but Bernie lost. I still find that peculiar.
Lets be clear boston, if Bernie declares it for Hillary I'll just move onto the state races and donate to those who support Bernie's platform. If Hillary gets the nom. and the President she'll be forced to tow the line with Liberal Democrats if I can help it, not Corporatists. Then if Hillary wants to obstruct Liberal policies by vetoing them she can and she'll look like a jerk.
I'm in this for the long haul and will canvass for the Progressive candidates around my area. Heck if I could I would phone bank for Raskin to get people to vote for him in the GE but I'm not a resident of Maryland and I'll do the same for ALL the candidates that echo Bernie's agenda.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
79. There's no point in abandoning his principles at this stage.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

In fact, I think it's very important that we all stick to our principles throughout the entirety of the election.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
86. Bullshit. There is no reason for him to suspend his campaign. He still has more people to represent
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:54 PM
Apr 2016

and more to do.

I think Hillary Clinton made a fine speech tonight, and I truly hope she steps up to include the Bernie supporters in the Democratic Party. That is for her to do, if she chooses to be a leader. But Bernie has his contribution to make, and it is not over.

There is no reason for him to stop.

And the rest of the Hillary supporters ought to make room for Bernie supporters too. The hubris that you can do this alone or that that is the better way or that you are in some way superior has got to stop. The division is almost 50 - 50, when you tally it all up. Be magnanimous in your victory, if that is what it becomes. Be inclusive. You will be the better for it.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
88. He will likely do what Hillary did in 2008 and wait until the final primary. GET OVER IT.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:55 PM
Apr 2016

Us 2008 Obama supporters got over it then, you can get over it now.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
89. Bernie doesn't need any of this...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:58 PM
Apr 2016

You'd be better predicting your own needs. We all need to do something, but predicting what other people should do without credentials is not the way to do this.

Get used to the fact that this WILL play out, and the only thing you NEED to do is take care of your own needs.

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
90. No he doesn't. If she needs him to drop out now
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:59 PM
Apr 2016

She's weaker than anyone thought. If the people who want her in office want to win they can sharpen their reflexes on Bernie. They'd fucking better do something to sharpen up for the General.....the avalanche of bullshit heading towards her is going to be epic.
And then there's that FBI thingy.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
91. who made you king? the Clinton camp has been saying this since day one. and you know what
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

they are not getting a coronation. They drove every democrat out of the primary, so the choices are minimal, they had the MSM behind them saying not true things, but what the heck. EXample the washington post ran a headline about Sanders giving him a pinocchio for saying his average donation was 27 dollars when in truth it was more - yes that big lie because it was 27.80. whoooo wow it makes him almost a bigger liar than the no you can't campaign.

I don't vote for another month and I deserve a choice. not one person.

eta and what did Clinton say in 2008 - Obama could get hit by a car.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
92. Millions of Democrats, myself included, have not voted yet.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 12:10 AM
Apr 2016

I want that vote to be represented at the convention and it will be! Thanks Bernie for staying in the race and fighting for every single delegate.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
99. There's no need for him to do that officially.
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 11:54 AM
Apr 2016

Both candidates' names will be on all of the remaining primary ballots, so everyone will have a chance to vote for the candidate they prefer. The question, really, is about how the two candidates will campaign going forward. There's no need to suspend a campaign.

Bernie Sanders can continue to speak, although he probably won't quite as often. What he will have to say may be quite different though, in the remaining 15 (I think) primaries. He clearly knows now that he will not be the nominee, so perhaps he'll modify his campaign to continue to call for the priorities he has called for all along, but without the animus toward his primary opponent.

If he does that, there's no reason that he should suspend his campaign. He can, instead, wind it down gracefully and still get votes and delegates to the Convention. There, they will have opportunities to voice his priorities, even if they can't elect him as the nominee.

What will Bernie do? Probably the most sensible thing, given the numbers. What will his supporters do? Many will continue to vote for him in their primary elections. Some, of course, will give into anger and recriminations. That will be too bad, but it's their choice. In late July, the convention will adopt a new Democratic platform and nominate Hillary Clinton for President.

That will be just fine. Bernie will endorse her and call on her to adopt as much of his own platform as she can. It's all good, that way.

Still, I think you can expect Bernie to cut back on his travel and campaign appearances. That would only make sense.

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