2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhen The Great American Collapse has finally played itself out...
...do you think the rest of the world will ever risk trusting the people of America with the vote again?
Stallion
(6,474 posts)they are holding us up
bjo59
(1,166 posts)for another (worse) banking collapse in the coming year (after the elections, for sure). The American economy is very definitely not healthy, not by any stretch of the imagination.
cliffordu
(30,994 posts)"Instruments" we sell, along with arms to the world.
Our economy will fail miserably without perpetual war and the need the Saudis seem to have for our fighter jets.
Name two things we actually manufacture here the world is hungry for besides instruments of war.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)We said we were Canadians. They let you know. Very vocal about American's putting up with rigged elections, and fake wars. So we began to say we were Canadian. No problems there....
Corporate666
(587 posts)I live half the year in Europe and I have traveled extensively there.
I never once felt ashamed to say I am American (and proud of it).
The only issues people ever had was with America acting in our own best interests militarily.
I've never ever heard anyone complain about our elections or voting system. To claim it was an issue for them is simply a revisionist lie.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Let me guess, you are a Clinton supporter?
Corporate666
(587 posts)The issue is not Iraq (or not just Iraq). Europeans with a chip on their shoulder about the USA don't like ANYTHING the USA does that they weren't consulted about first. That includes Iraq 1, Iraq 2, Afghanistan, Bosnia, drone strikes, bases in Japan/Korea or anything else where the USA acts unilaterally or where the USA 'encourages' people to join our coalitions.
The foolish part of it is when people think that any nation does anything but acts in it's own best interests. That doesn't mean we were right, it means we thought we were at the time (which is why most of congress voted for this stuff).
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Congress sure has been wrong a hell of a lot in the last fifteen years or so.
Makes you wonder how competent they are at their jobs.
LexVegas
(6,067 posts)bjo59
(1,166 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)Most Americans are freaking clueless.
bjo59
(1,166 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)CorkySt.Clair
(1,507 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]All things in moderation, including moderation.[/center][/font][hr]
When they asked on that thread to put the word or phrase you'll be god not to hear after the election ... Anything to do with that damned bird! Lol
nolawarlock
(1,729 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)And I'm not leaving any kids, which I am thankful for.