Congratulations Mrs. Clinton on securing the nomination - please read

[DVRacer]

Now if you wanna go checkout my previous post history knock yourself out but I'm a Bernie guy voted for him here in Oklahoma months ago.

So let's all be real with ourselves folks the voters have spoken on both sides and whether you like it or not the ballot this November will show.

R - Donald J Trump
D - Hillary Rodham Clinton

Now what do we do? Continue to argue and bicker? No we fight for what's best for the country.
You remember the country right, America the real home team. No D's or R's the whole country from sea to shining sea. Now do I prefer the choices above nope not gonna sugar coat it I think they stink. Doesn't matter what I think personally I have to check my feelings at the door on this one, but that does not mean I don't still have a choice to make in November. I have to put my country first and that means supporting Mrs. Clinton going forward. Our country deserves better than me being mad and staying home. Handing the Oval Office to the narcissistic dumbass could have similar ramifications as what happened in 1980. So I ask everyone to please refrain from being bitter and sometimes hateful over the outcome. We are better than this and right now America needs us to unite and save her from harm. What is coming is real and we may lose but I will be damned if I'm giving her up without a fight. Be real with yourself and reflect on the America you want next year and for generations to come. It's not about Bernie or Clinton anymore it's about the United States of America.

[Agschmid]

1. Thanks for this.

[PowerToThePeople]

2. "It's about the United States of America."

That is why I will vote my conscience in November.

[Trajan]

3. Click

[NowSam]

4. United we stand except

If we really care than it is time for the people to say enough is enough. There are many who will be voting (I) and if a third party candidate emerges that actually represents the people than the political revolution will occur.

[winter is coming]

5. I'll look into it. n/t

[actslikeacarrot]

6. So we Democrats are ok...

...with war then? Is that what I'm getting?

[AirmensMom]

13. Democrats apparently love war.

There's no money for education or healthcare or infrastructure, but you can be damn sure they'll find the money for endless wars.

[actslikeacarrot]

20. It blows my fucking mind.

This party has either changed or it never was what I thought it was.

[AirmensMom]

34. I don't know.

It does seem like it has changed for some things, like when we have a candidate willing to negotiate on social security and abortion.

We have been at war most of my life and it matters little whether a Democrat or Republican is in the White House. I have had family members in the military for at least four generations and most of them have been deployed. I am sick to death of it. We need to stop trying to control the world and start taking care of our own country.

[dreamnightwind]

121. Thank you, completely agree!

[Hortensis]

46. Well, could be worse. The GOP could be your party.

According to a recent poll, 19% of Republicans who refuse to vote for Trump will vote for Hillary Clinton. According to another poll, 7% of Bernice followers said they would vote for Trump if Bernie is not our nominee. In any case, you are hardly alone.

[CrispyQ]

118. The party has been backing away from FDR policies since Reagan.

A two bit actor poked fun at the word liberal & dem leadership tucked tail & ran in fear of the right wing media machine. Now they are on the same corporate gravy train as the GOP. Sure the dems toss us a few more crumbs, but they aren't interested in changing the direction of the train. Notice how they are like crickets when it comes to electronic voting & voting irregularities. We are being played - good cop/bad cop while the 1% hollows out the country.

[bahrbearian]

120. Think of it as a business opportunity

[Eko]

40. You are right, sigh

we should have never gone into WWII. What a mistake that turned out to be.

[Eko]

49. Damn that FDR

for taking us into war, a true progressive would never do that.

[Fumesucker]

50. Could you find something a little more recent?

That was before most of us on DU were alive.

[Eko]

55. Why does that matter?

If we can lament that we are no longer the party of FDR I can give my criticism of him.

[Eko]

67. Awww, where did you go?

Did the topic at hand require too much critical thinking and nuance for you? That saddens me.

[Silver_Witch]

115. Oh please!

The war on terrorism is NOTHING like WWII and you fucking know it. Get off you high horse and admit this last 16 years of war. Yes 16. Is a fucking waste of resources and most importantly HUMAN LIFE. Warmongers disgust me!

[Eko]

122. Thanks for putting words

in my mouth and a high horse underneath me. All I did was react to a blanket statement with another blanket statement. I never said war was good at all nor do I think that.

[moriah]

7. K&R. And for what it's worth, I feel for you....

... I was in your position in 2008. It wasn't fun. I wish, for you at least, you could have said "Congratulations, Bernie".

But I admire you for this post. Thank you.

[monmouth4]

59. That is my plan also..n/t

[oldandhappy]

66. From what I have read,

If you vote Green, the vote gets counted immediately. If you write in a vote, it may or may not get counted eventually. Because of that I changed my mind about writing in Bernie and will vote Green. I want the DNC to see the vote numbers of people not voting for their chosen candidate.

[moriah]

14. If you're inclined to lean Trump, there's a door.

I hope you won't have to be escorted out it.

[peacebird]

17. I said I would vote For Bernie in the general election. How did you make that "lean trump"?

Twisted, Moriah, very twisted.

[Cary]

21. Because if you don't vote Democratic you vote for Trump

Trump himself was just urging Sanders to run a third party campaign.

[Jester Messiah]

29. But if you don't vote Republican then you vote for Hillary. So it cancels out.

[Cary]

70. Right

You make so much sense.

[Jester Messiah]

73. It's a question of simple logic.

Democrats will tell you that a vote for anyone other than the Democrat is a vote for the Republican.
Republicans will tell you that a vote for anyone other than the Republican is a vote for the Democrat.

Ergo, a vote for neither is a vote for both. QED.

[Cary]

78. Pfeh

[Jester Messiah]

80. Eloquently put. n/t

[Cary]

86. I don't go for eloquence

I'm not a poet.

I go for efficiency and accuracy. What part of pfeh don't you understand?

[Jester Messiah]

88. Oh, I understand it just fine.

It's shorthand for "I got nothin'."

[Cary]

89. Pretty much.

I got nothing, for whiny losers.

[Jester Messiah]

90. Aww, that's cute.

But I think you realize that the whole "a vote not given to my candidate is implicitly a vote for the other guy" is a load of shit. That's why you're ducking.

[Cary]

92. Oh yes

The 10,000 votes that Nader got in Florida in 2000 made no difference whatsoever.

[Jester Messiah]

93. Kind of dumb to put up a candidate that lost those votes to him then, no?

But I suppose blaming the voters can be some sort of comfort.

[Cary]

95. I am not blaming anyone

I am saying that if those votes went to Gore then Bush would not have been able to steal the election.

Maybe those 10,000 wanted Bush so he could lie us into a war, drive us into a Great Republican Depression, and implement torture? How do I know?

And what things do you want if your vote or lack thereof causes Republicans to be able to steal the election?

Of course I don't know. That's all on you.

[Jester Messiah]

96. Noooo, surely not.

One might blame the candidate who failed to seal the deal, allowing his opponent to win and do horrible things. Or one might blame those who nominated that flawed candidate. Blaming the voters almost seems like blaming customers for shopping at your competition, causing you to go out of business. Surely it couldn't be... your own fault?

[Cary]

98. Like almost everything in the real world there is no one cause

But that doesn't mean that but for those 10,000 Bush would not have won. Your logic is less than perfect.

Sorry for the double negative. It is probably grammatical but still awkward. I am not perfect either.

Close. But not perfect.

[Fairgo]

104. A rationale man

I like it.

[Art_from_Ark]

109. They probably didn't make any difference

There was a LOT of cheating going on in Florida in 2000. Not only was Bush's campaign co-chair in charge of counting the votes, but she set arbitrary deadlines and halted counting before all the votes were counted. And that was after she and Bush's brother purged more than 60,000 Democratic voters from the voter rolls before the election. And in Volusia County alone, thousands of Gore votes were mysteriously flipped for Bush.

[Silver_Witch]

116. No you don't!

If you vote you vote for whom you voted for. Dems run a shitty candidate they take the fallout when people can't or won't vote for them! I call bullshit in the if you don't vote dem you vote Republican. Goal and complete bullshit!

[Cary]

119. Problem is that it's really very simple math

The radical right understands this. It's why they work so hard to gerrymander and suppress votes. If we vote, we win. If we don't vote for Democrats, we lose.

Why are you having so much trouble with that? Too obvious, or what?

[bettyellen]

26. "I am inclined to lean Trump. " Is an actual quote from your post- twisted would be denying it.

[okasha]

82. Anyone who is "inclined to lean Trump"

leans war. racism, homophobia and misogyny.

Nothing quite like outing oneself so explicitly.

[Agschmid]

43. You said it...

Your own words.

[AirmensMom]

39. It's not binary.

[ronnykmarshall]

65. No shit!

Why the fuck is this person still allowed to post? This fucking bullshit.

[MrsKirkley]

62. May I ask why you're leaning Trump?

Is it because he wants to end free trade? My main concern with Trump is what he will do with health care. I don't want preexisting condition denials and lifetime limits to become legal again.

[TowneshipRebellion]

10. No. You speak for yourself

and we will decide for ourselves. not-Trump is not a sufficient justification for me to vote HRC. My primary vote doesn't matter according to corporate media and most HRC supporters. Perhaps they are right... I will vote for liberal causes down-ticket but the POTUS? No HRC has not earned my vote.

[k8conant]

11. I will be voting for Bernie on May 10

See you later.

[Joe the Revelator]

12. In other words, the DNC hasn't nominated a true democrat, but since she has a D next to her name....

....vote for her?

No thanks.

[MisterP]

15. if she doesn't like vitriol she doesn't have to cheat, be conservative,

or perpetrate coups that her flunkies twisted intelligence to obtain

vvvv

[riderinthestorm]

16. Hillary or Republicans mean we're fucked on climate change

"Incrementalism" at this point is the same as climate change deniers.

Within 5 years there won't be anymore bickering over small stuff like SCOTUS. We're going to be full on dealing with severe weather and environmental events.

Voting for Hillary or a Republican means you own that legacy too.

You ok with that on your conscience?

[Lazy Daisy]

18. To me it never was about Bernie or Clinton

It's always been about "us".

Last night Hillary made it very clear there is no "us" for her. She refuses to admit that for many of us she falls short.
The thing I fear most is a so-called Democratic President winning this GE. The last time we had a Clinton in The White House we went backwards in progressive policy. So what will this "Democrat" be willing to give up to the Republicans? Social Security? Third term abortion? Healthcare? If she wins I know exactly who to blame when shit gets real.

[Cary]

19. Democrats vote Denocratic

Those who sow discord and discontent are marginal losers and mopes.

[Broward]

27. Your post sows discord. I'll leave to you to decide what that makes you.

[Cary]

69. Right.

Disrespecting people who aren't going to vote Democratic is going to make fewer people vote Democratic.

You some good thinking going for you. No wonder Sanders won.

Oh, wait....

[Broward]

76. There you go again.

[Joe the Revelator]

28. Democrats vote for candidates who show democratic principles.

[hellofromreddit]

51. Some party. OBEY or be ostracized.

[Cary]

77. Yawn

Zzzzzzz...

[leftofcool]

124. No, go vote for Trump if you like.

[Maru Kitteh]

22. Thank you for this post.

Onward. Forward. Together.

[fred v]

23. Amen!

[writes3000]

24. Thumbs Up To You!

[WonderGrunion]

25. I don't think Trump is a given.

Mrs. Clinton appears to be a given now, however.

[Chasstev365]

30. Yeah: Hillary and her supporters had better watch their "tone" if they want my vote!

[LAS14]

31. Yes!

[Kalidurga]

32. See you in California

[lancer78]

33. Bernie needs

70% of pledged delegates remaining

[djean111]

35. No sale.

The pre-planned and canned unity bullshit is really gonna be coming in reeking waves tonight, innit.
The "Bernie BUT" ones are the funniest and most formulaic.

[Demsrule86]

36. Thanks

It is all about beating the GOP after all. If Bernie Sanders had been the nominee,I would have voted for him. I will vote for the Democratic nominee...I believe that Hillary has clinched it.

[rbrnmw]

37. Thank You

[NurseJackie]

38. Thank you!

[Fresh_Start]

41. K&R

This has been a very horrible election season.
I truly hope that people find a way to come together.

[KewlKat]

42. Thank you!

[IamMab]

44. I'm for Clinton, but we can still fight for Bernie's goals. Let's make a Democratic Congress!

If we want a President to sign progressive laws, we MUST elect a progressive Congress to write and pass them first!!!

[Chasstev365]

57. You can't be a Progressive and give secret speeches to Wall Street Bankers

Even if you love Hillary and want her to be the first female president (nothing wrong with that) her factual voting record clearly shows SHE IS NOT A PROGRESSIVE and a Progressive would not give $200,000 + speeches to the very people who need much more Progressive legislation.

[IamMab]

58. Well, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. Even if you're wrong. nt

[Jester Messiah]

97. They're entitled to their own vote, too.

And if that's how you try to convince people, then I'm afraid you're headed for a disappointment.

[IamMab]

107. I'm not trying to "convince" someone who is not listening.

I know a lost cause when I see one, and trying to reason with a BernieBro is a perfect example. I'm not going to treat these kids like their parents do and cater to their every whim. Voting is for adults, so maybe Bernie's supporters should start acting like some.

[Jester Messiah]

111. Well, if your candidate thinks like that, then she won't get very far in the general.

You have to court all the votes, not just the people who you think are "adults."

[IamMab]

125. You have confused me for someone who cares what you think.

Goodbye forever.

[Jester Messiah]

129. Such an "adult" response. n/t

[aikoaiko]

113. Except most of them didn't support Bernie's goals.

[xloadiex]

45. I'll wait to see

what the FBI has to say. Bernie will still get my vote either way.

[workinclasszero]

47. Thank you

If Bernie had won the nomination I would have said the same.

We cant allow a fascist like Trump to take control.

[Rose Siding]

48. Yep

[johnp3907]

53. Well said!

"They" want "their country" back. I say we don't let 'em have it! We've worked to hard to let them screw it up!

[UtahLib]

54. Thank you, brave soul. eom

[Hekate]

56. KnRnThanks

[peggysue2]

60. Very Well Said

Thank you for that, DVRacer,

[LAS14]

61. Thanks!

[ronnykmarshall]

63. Oh DV, that's so cute/

I agree with you, but this is Bernie Underground.

Anything that is pro-Hillary or something that promotes the DEMOCRATIC nominee for President, which is going to be Hillary is NOT allowed here!

[iamthebandfanman]

64. Actually...

that's not how it works.. she has to get to that 'win' number (2383) .. if she doesn't itll be left to the convention....

[DVRacer]

68. It's ok lash out at me I don't mind

Just take a breath before spreading Trumps message for him.

[MisterP]

84. oh, here's what Trump's message is gonna be

"you say we're xenophobic warmongers? I'm an America Firster while you've repeatedly started wars even south of the border, bragged about deportations, and are the only one in this room who voted for the border wall! your economic team is packed with people who say retirement should be at 70, 75! you say the GOP hates retirees? I tell my sheep that they're all on the dole, that they should get more of it, and they love it! you say I hire illegals? your policies have sent millions and millions of jobs overseas! you say I'm a huckster? you've bled hardworking whites dry and come back to town twenty years later with the same globalist carny act! I'm racist? you cheerlead polices that jailed a third of (slur redacted) men and took credit for that as a fall in unemployment! I'm greedy? you're in the payday-lending party! it costs over twenty grand just to see you! I'm a bigmouth pandering to the audience? you literally reverse yourself within a week in front of different audiences, but we can't tell because your transcripts haven't been released for 243 days running! your whole campaign is based on voters not knowing a damn thing you've done!"

[MrsKirkley]

71. I'm devastated.

As a cancer survivor, I'm desperate for single-payer health care because my deductible is too high to afford the scans I need to monitor for reoccurrance. Why can't Hillary Clinton be for single payer like Bernie Sanders? Why is she so determined to keep for profit health insurance? Doesn't she realize that single payer health care will save lives and cut the cost of health care and prescription drugs? Doesn't she know how much the American people are getting ripped off because of our lack of a single payer system? I'll probably vote for her to prevent the return of preexisting conditions and lifetime limits, but I'm so frustrated with where she stands on the issues that are the most important to me, especially health care and job killing free trade deals.

[DVRacer]

79. The DV is for dysfunctional veteran thank you for your service

[Stand and Fight]

72. Thank you.

I would have shared similar sentiments if things were the other way around. My love of country comes before all else. Otherwise, I'd not have served for over four years in the Army.

I know this can't be easy, but I commend you for steeping forward and saying this. I've been where you are far too many times and it always came down to do what's best for the country.

I believe that Secretary Clinton will do the wise thing and adopt some of Senator Sanders platform. I don't believe she will move to the right. It's clear that Democrats and others on the Left want a progressive platform.

Again, thank you and have a good evening.

[yuiyoshida]

74. Hillary doesn't need or want Sanders Supporters..

[George II]

75. Good one, thanks.

[Dem2]

81. I agree

I've never stated my preference in this primary as I've always felt that it's up to the people to decide who they think is the best candidate. (I do like both candidates, so I suppose this made it easier for me to remain fairly neutral.) But the people have spoken and we have a very stark choice to make this fall. It's a no-brainer from where I sit.

[okasha]

83. Thank you.

That was eloquent and gracious.

[vercetti2021]

85. Sigh

It's like choosing what kind of suicide you want. Trump or Clinton.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

87. Hillary will lose against Trump

[Califonz]

91. Sadly, I agree.

HRC supporters are in denial about her unpopularity. Nominating her will be like kicking the GOP hornet's nest, and a good chunk of Bernie voters will stay home or vote 3rd party.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

100. The overwhelming majority of informed opinion is against you.

Every impartial commentator I've seen thinks that, while it's not certain, it's more likely that Clinton will beat Trump than not.

[DesertRat]

94. Thank you, DVRacer

[Donald Ian Rankin]

99. Slightly premature on the Republican side, I think.

Trump is the overwhelming favourite, but I don't think he has it quite wrapped up yet.

[pnwmom]

101. Thank you, DVRacer.

[Firebrand Gary]

102. Kicked and recommended!

[Thinkingabout]

103. Thanks, together we win and then progressive ideas can be accomplished.

We know we do not need a Trump or Cruz president, either has to be defeated.

[left-of-center2012]

105. Will the Bernie bashing stop now?

Doubtful

[left-of-center2012]

106. We can now work toward that $12 minimum wage by 2025!

[eridani]

108. No one gets the nomination without the right number of pledged delegates n/t

[auntpurl]

110. Secretary Clinton.

And thanks.

[aikoaiko]

112. The pro-Hillary crowd will be along to pet you.

It will feel good.

[VOX]

114. Thank you, DVR...you're a class act.

And that's something that's been in short supply lately.

Thanks so much for your kind and wise thoughts.

[Silver_Witch]

117. So sorry you have lost heart in the fight

We must each make our own decision about what is best for America. That is true. I know america will survive!! For me not voting Clinton is doing what is best. For others ...well they have to make their own decision. Peace be with you !!

[mhatrw]

123. What we have learned is that THEY can still totally rig the Presidential election game.

Too many older people still get what little news they get primary from their talking heads.

[mainstreetonce]

126. Good post

Hill yes!

[MFM008]

127. I salute you.

I know its painful.
Hell, I wish we had lots of other and younger choices.
I will do whatever I can to keep Donald Trump from ever seeing the inside of the oval office.

[blackspade]

130. How about you give the rest of us a chance to vote?

I mean it's great and all, "Bernie Guy," that you got to vote months ago, but some of us would like to have that chance ourselves before we "call it."



Frankly, if Clinton wants my vote as a lifelong Democrat, she needs to earn it.