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Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:09 AM Oct 2012

A Democratic Senate would HAVE to give a President Romney whatever he wanted

If you notice something, it's that a lot of Romney endorsements insist that he is the man to stroll in and achieve instant bipartisan consensus. It's bullshit, it ain't backed up by his record in Massachusetts, but hey...he was a governor of Mass., he has to be a ninja, leaping back and forth between each side of the aisle!

The truth is much simpler. These media clowns have been playing the game for long enough. Oh, it's Obama's fault that the (many) concessions that he has made have not been good enough for a radical right Republican party! Get rid of him!

They know Romney is full of shit, but they also know that he can service their pocketbooks at the expense of much of their reader/viewership.

If Mitt Romney should win, there will be no pressure on him to compromise. No, it will be the Democratic politicians who have to move, it is they who will be tarred as unreasonable and obstructionist should they attempt to water down his policy in anything but the most superficial way.

That's the way it has to be in the event of Romney's election. Sad, but undeniable.

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Justice4All1

(119 posts)
1. It would be worse for RMoney
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:13 AM
Oct 2012

After what rethugs have been doing to Obama, Dems would make it a point to circumvent whatever Myth tried, just for payback. No way would dems agree with any of Myth's plan to cut taxes by 20%, privatize SS or cut Medicare/Medicaid.

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
2. They would have to in order to survive.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:17 AM
Oct 2012

The media will be on board, and we know how they shape opinion. They will be on Romney's nuts and the Democrats' backs.

Furthermore, consider the money the Koch's and their ilk have pumped into this campaign; if they convince people in less than four years to forget Bush and blame Obama, that's just incredible and unprecedented; it's essentially mind control. A Democrat doesn't win the White House for the next 20 years without making a haaaard right turn and kissing their ring.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. If Romney's proposed policies were popular, then a Democratic Senate
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:57 AM
Oct 2012

might feel obligated to let Romney have his way.

But the fact is that even if people vote for Romney because they feel Obama has not delivered, people do not want Romney's austerity or Romney's tax cuts for the rich and deduction cuts for the middle class and poor.

So, the Senate could actually gain popularity in the public by thwarting Romney's sick plans no matter how the media played it.

Older people, for example, do not want Medicare to be voucherized.

And young people, do not want to give up the interest deduction on home purchases.

And nobody outside the very wealthy want the tax cuts for the really rich.

Young to middle aged people who would benefit from the tax cuts because of their upper middle class incomes (say certain professionals) realize that they would have to pay more to support their parents in many cases if Social Security and Medicare were cut in order to pay for tax cuts for them. The upper middle class young people are quite aware of the trade off that they would have to make. If their parents are wealthy, they may be OK with it. But if their parents are not wealthy, for them, it is a draw, and they are smart and well educated enough to know it.

If Romney is elected it will be due to racism on the one hand and anger at the bad economy on the other.

Personally, I do not think that women are going to allow Romney to become president. Women will vote against Romney. Racism is less important to women than women's rights especially with regard to family planning and equal opportunity and pay in the workplace. We have a new generation of professional women out there. Many of them are single, many by choice. They do not want Romney.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
9. If people are choosing a Democratic Senate
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:00 AM
Oct 2012

It also means that voters do not want far-right people in the Senate like Akin and want the Dems to exercise a restraining influence over the Republicans.

Obama is still favored to win the Presidency, but in the event that Romney did, the Senate would have the ability to stop him from abolishing Obamacare or doing certain other things he wants to.

And if Romney were to win it would likely only be by a small margin, so I doubt it would be much of a mandate from the people if they elect a Democratic Senate as well.

Nate Silver gives the Democrats about an 87% chance of winning the Senate right now.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. No way. The GOPers have been obstructing everything the Dems have wanted to do ...
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:19 AM
Oct 2012

Dems in The Senate would NOT just up and do everything the GOPers want to do.

NO WAY !!!

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
12. Because congressional dems' mentality is to go along to get along. The ony instance where they may
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:51 PM
Oct 2012

put up a fight is if republicans try to touch social security or medicare. That's how it was under bush. They went along on both wars, the tax cuts,etc but they wuldn't go along with cuts to social spending. That's wh it's important that dems have a president republicans vote as a block dems won't because of vulnerble red state dems.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. No they have six-year terms. That insulates a third of them
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:04 AM
Oct 2012

from facing the electorate until Romney would be challenged.

The Senate would remain at a standstill.

Democratic politicians will be furious if the Republican trick played on Obama results in Romney's election. I would not want to be in Romney's position if that happens.

Already, many Democrats no longer subscribe to newspapers and get their information online from sources not based on traditional media.

This trend away from traditional media will become stronger in the next few years. That is because the great advantage the media has had historically was the ability to go places including foreign countries and war zones and report back without a whole lot of government interference or control. The traditional media no longer has the will, the means or the freedom to report honestly as they did in the days of Walter Cronkite. More and more Americans are aware of the terrible quality of the media reporting.

So, the traditional media's reaction will mean less and less. I disagree completely with your thought on this. I believe that if Romney is elected, the Democrats in the Senate will be very shrewd and find ways to circumvent the press and reach citizens directly. Obama has shown the way. The Senate will pick that up quickly.

 

craigmatic

(4,510 posts)
13. Red state senators and congresspeople will throw a wrench into the works on that.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:56 PM
Oct 2012

It's not so much a matter of media. You have to look at the donors and alot of our people in congress are just as beholden to corporations as repubs. If Obama loses, dems will quickly try to distance themselves from him and his achievements.

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