2016 Postmortem
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Howard Fineman Howard Fineman ?@howardfineman
It's not scientific or quantifiable by Nate Silver but Des Moines Register endorsement of Mitt first time it's' clear O may lose the race.
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@howardfineman Hmm curious did Mitt Romney grant them on or off the record interview too.
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1h Bill Harnsberger Bill Harnsberger ?@BillinPortland
@howardfineman Des Moines Register endorsement of Mitt first time it's' clear O may lose the race. || Profoundly stupid statement, Howard.
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1h Will Deyamport, MSEd Will Deyamport, MSEd ?@peoplegogy
@howardfineman its not, stop shoveling that shhhh
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1h Joe Adalian Joe Adalian ?@TVMoJoe
@howardfineman you're one of the best out there, but: it is 2012. The older folks who still read papers were already voting for Mitt
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1h Nicolas Falacci Nicolas Falacci ?@NickFalacci
@howardfineman Tell that to the thousands of Dems lined up to vote early in Florida.
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1h Nicolas Falacci Nicolas Falacci ?@NickFalacci
@howardfineman If it's not scientific or quantifiable, it's meaningless.
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1h Chuck Martin Chuck Martin ?@MrChuckMartin
@howardfineman So, wait. IOWA decides the race now? Not Ohio?
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1h lvdjgarcia lvdjgarcia ?@lvdjgarcia
.@howardfineman @WestWingReport Pres Edwards & Pres Hillary Clinton both agree the Des Moines Register endorsement is crucial
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1h Mary Rocco Mary Rocco ?@MaryRocco
@howardfineman Don't be such an ass.
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1h FragileFrankieMerman FragileFrankieMerman ?@Fegerter
@peoplegogy @howardfineman It's true Will.
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1h Fela Fela ?@heladas
@etcpolitics @howardfineman Mitt says no interviews until election day...His handlers have forbidden them.
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1h Jen Bergeron Jen Bergeron ?@panthea
@howardfineman It's not scientific or quantifiable, but it's clear?
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1h Will Deyamport, MSEd Will Deyamport, MSEd ?@peoplegogy
@Fegerter @howardfineman the president got this. He is going to win
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1h Adriana RM Adriana RM ?@etcpolitics
@heladas @howardfineman And they endorsed him.... you've got to be kidding.
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1h Jim Newell Jim Newell ?@jim_newell
@howardfineman It doesn't speak well of your punditry that this is the first time you have considered that possibility.
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1h Matt Jones Matt Jones ?@KySportsRadio
@howardfineman serious question for the former Kentuckian. U really think in today's world people care about newspaper endorsements?
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1h Steven Cobb Steven Cobb ?@stevencobb
@howardfineman Agreed. Profoundly stupid statement. Why should anyone care what the paper in a podunk town of 206,000 thinks?
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1h The Crisis Magazine The Crisis Magazine ?@thecrisismag
@howardfineman and just erase all other factors and multiple endorsements for PBO that say the opposite?! C'mon!!! @CNN @hardball_chris
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@howardfineman Not anger so much as frustration that you think this is such a big deal.
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50m J.K. Simms J.K. Simms ?@jksimms
@howardfineman why does an objective observation outrage so many? Ppl expect those in media to only cheerlead. Sadly, too many do.
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49m Chuck Martin Chuck Martin ?@MrChuckMartin
@howardfineman Ohio, Ohio, Ohio.
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49m Bill Harnsberger Bill Harnsberger ?@BillinPortland
@howardfineman No, he doesn't need "all mo he can get.".Pay attention to the Ohio polling, Howard. Obama doesn't need DMR if he has OH EVs
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48m Prison Culture Prison Culture ?@prisonculture
@howardfineman No you claimed that it implies for the first time that he might lose. That's hyperbole worthy of @sullypanic.
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48m Only4RM Only4RM ?@Only4RM
.@howardfineman Hey Howard, plz google "electoral college". Dems shouldn't take anything 4 granted but Obama's not the 1 w/ a mo' problem.
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48m Steven Cobb Steven Cobb ?@stevencobb
@howardfineman Easy 2 c DM endorse as sour grapes by journos who didn't get their egos stroked. We know how self-important the media can be
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46m rob rob ?@SilentMars
@Only4RM @howardfineman Obama can lose NC, FL, IA, NH, VA, CO and still win the election (OH, NV, WI + safe states).
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45m Jim Manley Jim Manley ?@jamespmanley
@howardfineman you are a great reporter but wrong on this one
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42m Richard Yeselson Richard Yeselson ?@yeselson
@howardfineman Not anger--just wondering how DMR endorsement trumps polls and/or early voting in NV, VA, WI, and OH. More than enuf to win.
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40m Mona Hussein Obama Mona Hussein Obama ?@MonaB2010
@howardfineman O has momentum. It's idiots like you who refuse to report early voting momentum to try to tighten race for ratings etc.
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39m Richard Yeselson Richard Yeselson ?@yeselson
@howardfineman DMR record is about .500 in primaries/polls. Picked Kerry in '04, Hillary in '08 primary. You're making too much of the flip.
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38m JazzPuff JazzPuff ?@JazzPuff
@Only4RM @howardfineman I elect Pres. based on character not DM Reg endorsement -sure rest of IA & US think same. DM Reg is making big M 👎
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38m Peter Khrinenko Peter Khrinenko ?@lviv17
@yeselson @howardfineman bewilderment is the right word.
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36m inga peters inga peters ?@PetersInga
@JazzPuff @Only4RM @howardfineman fyi DES moines register is owned by the Hammett company and partially owned by Bain Capitol
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34m LiberalPhenom LiberalPhenom ?@LiberalPhenom
@PetersInga @jazzpuff @only4rm @howardfineman Well, there you go.
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33m Richard Yeselson Richard Yeselson ?@yeselson
@lviv17 @howardfineman Correct. I worked Iowa in '04 for Kerry. We didn't think DMR endorsement won state for us. And it didn't!
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33m The Obama Diary The Obama Diary ?@TheObamaDiary
@howardfineman Anger? LOL. In ur dreams Howie, that's what u hope to get with your 'look-at-me!' punditry. Truly, you are the media's Trump.
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28m sharon stillson sharon stillson ?@stillonline
.@howardfineman The LAST RepubliCON DM Reg endorsed was Nixon in 72 - remember how well that turned out. [ENOUGH w/ "bad news for Obama"]
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meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)flamingdem
(39,332 posts)because there weren't any!
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)No way can anybody take this asshole seriously ever again.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Ariana would be happy
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)she got her $300 million.
To her credit. When she started HuffPo she had no money to pay salaries or child care providers. So congrats on the big payday.
She is not on any kind of earnout or anything so for now . . . just another corporate employee. Drawing a salary.
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)LOL. That was my favorite one!
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)senseandsensibility
(17,157 posts)That IS funny.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)messenger??
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Because Nate Silver deals with logical, cold, hard numbers. As does Professor Sam Wang (http://election.princeton.edu/). Howard is living in the past when newspaper endorsements meant something. You know, before most people got their news from the internet.
Justice4All1
(119 posts)This is all Howard trying to be cool to gain attention.
He pulled this crap after the first debate, and complained after the second debate when Obama did everything he said Obama should've done.
He even tried to complain about one of Biden's answers. He's a real a$$ hole I didn't want to accept it but he's gone too damn far this time.
A$$ hole, I'm never watching his sorry arse again.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Faith9326
(304 posts)Howard Fineman ?@howardfineman
"Calm down. Yes DMR more conservative now. but that's part of the story. Their 1st gop endorsement in 40 years. DMR still matters in Iowa."
Why doesn't he just admit that he was acting like a drama queen?
Beowulf
(761 posts)The DMR does still matter, it is the largest newspaper in Iowa. However, many Iowans are skeptical of the DMR's editorial board, whether it's middle-of-the-road, leaning left, or leaning right. I've known politicians in Iowa who were successful in running against the Register, others who cringed when they received an endorsement.
It's a strange endorsement, looking at what the Register has done historically, but their ownership, as several have pointed out, has been shifting to the corporate right. I really don't see this a big deal.
Justice4All1
(119 posts)Howard's an a$$hole trying to create something where there's nothing.
Maybe he wants to dampen enthusiasm, he is such a POS.
Justice4All1
(119 posts)DMR may still matter in IA to some conservatives not to Dems, or people who care about Obama & women's rightss. it's a freaking endorsement.
He's acting like those lunatics Sununu & McCranky who lit their hair on fire yesterday over Powell's endorsement. At least, powell had a good reason for endorsing Obama, he's consistent.
DMR endorsed Myth because he's obviously the worst rethug to run in 40 years, obviously Bushes, & Reagan jusst weren't bankrupt enough to merit their endorsement.
Even they admit, Myth ran two positions so RMoney was either lying in the primary or he's lying now, so he's a liar. No Howard their endorsement of a Rethug is not good.
Too many shades of Tricky Dick to whom Myth's been compared to on occasion, BTW. Last Rethug endorsement was Tricky dick, does not speak well of Myth.
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)flamingdem
(39,332 posts)Martin tells it like it is!
russspeakeasy
(6,539 posts)Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)They are a danger to our democratic process with their investment in the horse race narrative. I'm really glad that social media is holding their feet to the fire. People like Howard Fineman are fast becoming obsolete, and they know it.
Justice4All1
(119 posts)The pundits are becoming liability at times, look what they cost us after the first debate. It would have been an uneventful debate but they went wild & made a big deal out of nothing, giving RMoney an undeserved win for lying & deceiving the American people.
I don't watch their shows (Matthews, Maddow) anymore, after that sh** they pulled. Ed apologized the next day for loing it so giving him another chance.
Lawrence, Rev Al, & Bashir are always true though.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)It's taking a while to get over that idiotic, non professional nonsense of that night. But at least it was revealing as to what is important for those asshat yappers - their acting abilities.
Sometimes I am near to clicking them on again - but a feeling of sickness overwhelms me and I just can't do it.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)Howard Fineman ?@howardfineman
Calm down. Yes DMR more conservative now. but that's part of the story. Their 1st gop endorsement in 40 years. DMR still matters in Iowa.
Fineman may now be classified as officially a moron.
flamingdem
(39,332 posts)OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)CoffinEd
(264 posts)On the eve of the 2010 midterm elections, Fineman said with certainty on Hardball that Charlie Baker stood a "good chance" of unseating Deval Patrick here in Mass. Well, history will show us how that gubernatorial contest turned out, and it wasn't pretty.