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Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:38 PM Oct 2012

The MSM is getting ridiculous

Obama leads OH 50-46 in a CNN poll and they say its a tie

He leads in a PA poll 49-43 and they say he is under 50%

He leads in a VA poll 51-47 and he is clinging on

But any poll showing Romney ahead by even 1 point and they say he is winning

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The MSM is getting ridiculous (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Oct 2012 OP
ITA. WTF is wrong with MSM? LisaL Oct 2012 #1
In 2008 Bain Capital was involved EmeraldCityGrl Oct 2012 #8
Bingo. Bain has a lot of fingers Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #10
Murdoch and the right wingers own lot's of media. It's all bullshit. xtraxritical Oct 2012 #26
"Getting?" GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #2
They were hoping for the 1980 Carter narrative this year RomneyLies Oct 2012 #3
Some idiots out there are claiming Obama caused the crash. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #34
Can't Point this Enough! Thanks Proud liberal 80.. It's meant to demoralize Cha Oct 2012 #4
Some of the networks and pollsters will lose all credibility after this election. Webster Green Oct 2012 #5
Not Nate lobodons Oct 2012 #15
That's right. Not Nate, and quite a few others. Webster Green Oct 2012 #39
He's winning retroactively... Tutonic Oct 2012 #6
Another thing Proud liberal 80 Oct 2012 #7
When was it that Benghazi broke? LukeFL Oct 2012 #28
Ugh Faith9326 Oct 2012 #9
I keep noticing that, too. nt pnwmom Oct 2012 #11
My Dad and I were talking about this just the other day CaliGal Oct 2012 #12
"getting"? been that way for a long, long time. NRaleighLiberal Oct 2012 #13
Yep. And the SF Giants are clinging to a 3-0 lead in the World Series, after shutting out Detroit stopbush Oct 2012 #14
+1 Webster Green Oct 2012 #40
The MSM = The Mainly Superseded Media anAustralianobserver Oct 2012 #16
The more they say it's getting close the harder we Dems work! Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2012 #17
Aint that the fucking truth! SunSeeker Oct 2012 #18
Money money money money money . . . MrModerate Oct 2012 #19
The MSM is losing their minds.... LenaBaby61 Oct 2012 #20
Pundits are desperate to remain relevant. merrily Oct 2012 #32
I'm going to laught the day after the election when the headlines say "Obama nearly defeated". n/t D23MIURG23 Oct 2012 #21
Gets Obama voters DarleenMB Oct 2012 #22
The MSM is owned by uber-rich mofos riqster Oct 2012 #23
Just read a blurb in a local NC rag: Pure spin Populist_Prole Oct 2012 #24
Yep. I notice the language too. Any close lead for Obama is a "tie", NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #25
So CNN is the entire Media now? brooklynite Oct 2012 #27
Most larger media outlets do similar things. merrily Oct 2012 #31
There is no such thing as MSM fingrinn Oct 2012 #29
Good point. merrily Oct 2012 #30
Kicked. SoapBox Oct 2012 #33
We're supposed to write off NC and Fla based on 1-point Romney leads, but Pa is "in play" Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2012 #35
The MSM has a major financial interest in the perception of a close race. MisterJones Oct 2012 #36
At CNN, an Obama landslide would be... dchill Oct 2012 #37
They cherry pick polls to fit their narrative...just like everyone does davidn3600 Oct 2012 #38
There's going to be a lot of eggs on faces come election night. ncav53 Oct 2012 #41
Mara Liasson has made ATC unlistenable, beyond ridiculous carolinayellowdog Oct 2012 #42

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
8. In 2008 Bain Capital was involved
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

in a multi-billion dollar leverage buyout with Clear Channel ( they own something like 850 radio
stations, billboard companies) and Time Warner was also involved. I tried unraveling some of it
this afternoon and it's so convoluted the average person can't make heads or tails out of it. Willard
is their guy. Obama has the people that's why we have to GOTV and be his media machine.

CNN is on par with faux news. Ted Turner must be tearing his hair out.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
10. Bingo. Bain has a lot of fingers
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:04 PM
Oct 2012

in a lot of media pies and is in a lot of people's pockets. This is why the media is even more out of control than usual. Romney has been leveraging the media through Bain. Not hard given there are only a few media companies to begin with. They're all buddy buddy at the top.

 

RomneyLies

(3,333 posts)
3. They were hoping for the 1980 Carter narrative this year
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
Oct 2012

They're so sad it isn;t happening.

All of these lilly white talking heads figured there was no way in hell a black man could be re-elected with the economy not fully recovered from the Bush Crash of '08.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
4. Can't Point this Enough! Thanks Proud liberal 80.. It's meant to demoralize
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:41 PM
Oct 2012

if you buy it and Horse Race for the Corporate Media Coffers.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
5. Some of the networks and pollsters will lose all credibility after this election.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:44 PM
Oct 2012

I guess Rove and the Kochs have paid them enough that they don't give a shit anymore.

Fuck 'em!

I can't wait for the election results, so I can start ruthlessly tormenting wing-nuts.

 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
15. Not Nate
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:46 PM
Oct 2012

Nate Silver's integrity cannot be bought. Tonights chances for an Obama victory is over 74%.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
39. That's right. Not Nate, and quite a few others.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:40 AM
Oct 2012

I'm referring to the ones who are quite obviously bought and paid for.

Fuck them.

Tutonic

(2,522 posts)
6. He's winning retroactively...
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:45 PM
Oct 2012

and from behind...on a sinking ship called Romtanic.


He should keep on eye on Sharkeyes.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
7. Another thing
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:47 PM
Oct 2012

In September when Obama was winning by a decent margin in the National polls and winning by a huge margin in the electoral map the MSM constantly claimed the race was close.

Now that Mitt is leading by a small margin in the National polls, while Obama is winning the electoral vote by a small margin the MSM is claiming Mitt is winning. WTF

LukeFL

(594 posts)
28. When was it that Benghazi broke?
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:40 AM
Oct 2012

When did it happen? Iam starting tp think these a- holes had something to do with it to bring down Obamas lead.

Faith9326

(304 posts)
9. Ugh
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 10:55 PM
Oct 2012

I just hate how they're literally injecting themselves into this election. They need to back up, for sure.

CaliGal

(37 posts)
12. My Dad and I were talking about this just the other day
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012

I asked him if it was 'just me?', that the 'networks' seem to have already predicted that Romney is going to win the election because he is 1 point ahead of Obama in the national polls. Where, when Obama was up by 7 points, it was 'oh, he has a narrow lead', etc.
WTF????
I surmise that the Koch Bros., Rove, and their minions have been giving them millions to sway the commentary.
I know, I know, nothing new, but it does seem to be out of control the last couple of months.

stopbush

(24,397 posts)
14. Yep. And the SF Giants are clinging to a 3-0 lead in the World Series, after shutting out Detroit
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:32 PM
Oct 2012

in the last two games.

Detroit has the momentum!!! And Rmoney's from Detroit, so he will win!!

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
19. Money money money money money . . .
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 11:59 PM
Oct 2012

Ad spends, viewership (which feeds into the rate structure even after the election), raising the profile of individual journalists/talking heads . . . it's all about money.

The US MSM only gets this orgy of attention every 4 years and they are going to milk it until the cow runs dry. Making hay while the sun shines is an irreducible concept from Business 101.

No horse race = no big end-of-year bonuses. And struggling news organizations have been facing lean times and intense competition from each other for years.

And this applies whether the individual outlet is left-leaning, right-leaning, centrist or genuinely apolitical.

LenaBaby61

(6,979 posts)
20. The MSM is losing their minds....
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:08 AM
Oct 2012

I just saw on Realclearpolitics where Howard Fineman--who usually is pretty decent on all things politics---Tweeted that because the Des Moines Register endorsed Mitt Rob-me, that means that--although unscientific like the work Nate Silver does--- President Obama may LOSE the election to Mitt Rob-me ...

I thought it was satire, but it wasn't...just wow .....

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@howardfineman on October 27, 2012 @9:43 pm EDT Retweet

It's not scientific or quantifiable by Nate Silver but Des Moines Register endorsement of Mitt first time it's' clear O may lose the race.
Retweeted by

Howard Fineman has 53308 followers & is following 260 friends

riqster

(13,986 posts)
23. The MSM is owned by uber-rich mofos
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:11 AM
Oct 2012

And they love them some Romney. The only way we can win is turn the fucking fuck OUT, and drag everybody else to the polls with us.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
24. Just read a blurb in a local NC rag: Pure spin
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:21 AM
Oct 2012

Title of article says number of early voters in NC top 1 million, then says republicans see big gains. Then the text of the article explains and gives the numbers who voted from each party. Democratic was 500K+, Republicans in the high 200K range, Independents in the high 100K range. It went on to say that even though democratic voters far outnumbered republicans, it explicity stated that the rate of republican early voting increased was the highest since 2008. It then ended with some chest beating quote from a republican hack.

Anybody could see this was nothing but horse race bullshit. Made me angry.

NYC Liberal

(20,137 posts)
25. Yep. I notice the language too. Any close lead for Obama is a "tie",
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:31 AM
Oct 2012

any close lead for Romney is "an x-point lead for Romney"

 

fingrinn

(81 posts)
29. There is no such thing as MSM
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 12:40 AM
Oct 2012

They are ALL owned by 6 corporations, you know the ones that are people.
They want you to know what they think you should know, so you can be controlled and vote the way they want you too.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
30. Good point.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:19 AM
Oct 2012

I knew five or six corporations own most media outlets, but I never put it together with what MSM stands for.

We should call it CSM, for corporate stream media, or MSM for money stream media, orr WSM, for Wall Street media.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
35. We're supposed to write off NC and Fla based on 1-point Romney leads, but Pa is "in play"
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:30 AM
Oct 2012

as well as Ohio and Wisconsin

MisterJones

(23 posts)
36. The MSM has a major financial interest in the perception of a close race.
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:40 AM
Oct 2012

Close Race=more eyeballs

more eyeballs=higher ratings

higher ratings=more ad revenue...

It is in their best financial interest to milk this narrative for all it is worth.

Sad but true

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
38. They cherry pick polls to fit their narrative...just like everyone does
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:10 AM
Oct 2012

We want Obama to win, so we tend to favor polls that show that.
Freeps want Romney to win, so they favor their polls.
The media wants a close race. So everything is a "dead heat."

Those pundits and "journalists" would have an orgasm on live TV if it was electoral tie.

carolinayellowdog

(3,247 posts)
42. Mara Liasson has made ATC unlistenable, beyond ridiculous
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 05:26 PM
Oct 2012

She just said it was impossible to underestimate the effect of the Denver debate on the race. I turned it off at that point; her slant has long been ridiculous but now it's downright disgusting.

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