Never forget: You get the government you are willing to accept.

[Skwmom]

Only when you stand up and say I will not accept this will we return to a democracy for the people.

[silvershadow]

1. Amen. nt

[pkdu]

2. Apparently you and Susan have accepted a Trump presidency.

Well done. Pat yourself on back.

[Sparkly]

5. exactly.

[stillwaiting]

3. Consent of the people. Indeed. nt.

[Binkie The Clown]

4. Most people get the government they've been brainwashed to believe is the best government. n/t

[Skwmom]

10. We could teach Russia a thing or two about propaganda.

[840high]

6. I'm standing up this

year - for the first time in many years. Bernie earned my vote.

[mythology]

7. Actually you get the government that the largest number

Of people vote for, mitigated by gerrymandering and sometimes by the electoral college.

[Nanjeanne]

8. I've been thinking about this "oh well you get Trump" guilt trip thingy going on . . .

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At this point I'm not sure if I will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee. I'm voting for Bernie tomorrow in my primary and will see what happens down the road. I live in a Blue state so I don't have the same PANG when thinking about not voting for Clinton. I know I can never vote for a Republican - but I get sure don't get the response of "well you are electing Trump" if you don't vote Hillary. Isn't it Hillary's responsibility to earn my vote? Isn't it Hillary who is responsible if I don't vote for her? If she offers me nothing I can really believe in - how is it all of a sudden my fault if she isn't elected? If she's so wonderful and so electable - well then shouldn't she be beating everyone - including Trump, Kasich, Cruz or Ryan if he's thrown into the mix? Isn't SHE the person who is responsible for getting elected?

Right now all I hear is Democrats love her. Well maybe some Democrats do. Maybe even the majority of those affiliated with the party do. I've been a Dem for 40 years. I don't - but maybe I'm an exception. But in a GE - she needs to be the candidate the people want to vote for. She's done nothing in this primary to get my vote - and she has actually pushed me away. There was a time I thought I'd hold my nose and do it - for the sake of the "party". But she and her surrogates sneer at my version of being a Democrat. They sneer at my candidate. So that's not exactly an incentive to push my lever for her.

Whatever I ultimately decide to do - I will not feel that I am the one to blame. If the voters want Trump - or Cruz - or Kasich - or Whomever - then that's who will win the election. If the voters want Hillary - then she will win.

I'm getting off the guilt train. When and if I have to make up my mind - Hillary is going to be the person - and the only person - who can convince me . . . or not. If she loses - she and the Democratic Party that wants her so badly are the ones to blame. As the OP suggests . . . What are you willing to accept?

[djean111]

9. Extremely well put. Thank you. n/t

[vintx]

11. 30 year dem here.

her nomination would change this former yellow dog dem to an independent.