Hillary, campaigning in rural PA, begins "pivoting" on guns?

[Warren DeMontague]

Wow, well, who could have seen THAT coming?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/277392-clinton-we-cant-ignore-the-second-amendment

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton sought to strike a balance between Second Amendment rights and addressing gun violence at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania on Friday.

“I know how important gun ownership and particularly hunting is here in northeastern Pennsylvania,” the former Secretary of State said.

[Autumn]

1. Obama in 08?

[Warren DeMontague]

2. Well, anyone who thought she was going to go into full bore electoral college mode

Without massaging the fears of red state rural gun owners- the same thing she's been attacking sanders for doing, btw- hasnt been paying attention and/or doesnt believe she's the crafty realpolitik genius her people claim she is.

[Major Hogwash]

32. Last week she wanted to grab all of their guns in NY, this week she wants to pass out ammuntion!!!

Good Lord, which is it, Sandy Hook or grab all the boxes of ammo she can!!!

[Bread and Circus]

3. Annie Oakley is back!!!!!!

I wondered how long we'd have to wait... wasn't long.

[840high]

8. More pandering from her.

[KingFlorez]

4. The operatives words are "striking balance"

But Clinton said the United States can’t ignore gun violence.

“I want you to know that we can’t ignore the Second Amendment and we can’t ignore the 33,000 people a year who die from gun violence,” she said. “And I think we are smart enough to figure out how to do that.”

[Autumn]

5. I call it tailoring her message.

To whoever the fuck she talking to this week.

[KingFlorez]

7. Another one for the ignore list

[kaleckim]

17. I too hate opposing viewpoints

Only those that live in the bubble with me please.

[Warren DeMontague]

6. The devil is in the details.

Merely saying "we are smart enough to figure out an answer" isnt enough- it sounds like her "solution" on encryption- you know, breaking strong encryption with a backdoor that isnt a strong encryption-breaking backdoor.

[Bread and Circus]

9. See I think that's the balance Bernie has been going for and he has been blasted for it.

[nc4bo]

14. I call it classic Hillary bullshitting. It's so old and so commonplace, it's classic.

She fools onky those who wish to be fooled.

[Broward]

10. And the farce continues.

[Arugula Latte]

11. Hillary reminds me of a god.

Specifically, Janus, the two-faced Roman god.

[EndElectoral]

12. At times it is almost laughable, she is the consummate chameleon politician

[TheDormouse]

13. But which Hillary are we talking about?

[grntuscarora]

15. camp weathervane shifts again.

did anyone NOT see this one coming?

[Vinca]

16. If elected she will be known as the Panderer-In-Chief.

[Blue_In_AK]

18. A little different from that red-in-the-face anger

she was projecting at the New York debate.

[bvar22]

19. WOW...back to the Annie Oakley Persona.

How does she keep track of who she is from day to day,
and what will the parents of the children killed at Sandy Hook think about Hillary NOW?
This pivot was fast enough to give a normal person whiplash,
but won't even be noticed in a certain group.



Before I could ever consider voting for her, I would need some reassurance about WHICH Hillary we would be getting as President.
There so many different Hillarys, even one with a Southern Accent (though it sounds pretty phony).
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Hey, you don't suppose she has been cloned, each programmed with different "beliefs", and her handlers just bring out whichever one they believe will appeal the particular location the best?

[oberliner]

20. "we can’t ignore the 33,000 people a year who die from gun violence"

is the rest of what she said.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. So, she thinks we can't ignore the 2nd Amendment. I wish I felt she was as committed to the 1st one.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/07/opinion/senator-clinton-in-pander-mode.html

[sufrommich]

21. Where is the "pivot"? nt

[Warren DeMontague]

22. She's doing exactly the same thing she's been blasting Sanders for.

Namely, acknowledging reality re: rural gun owners.

[sufrommich]

24. She's acknowledging that the constitution has a second amendment.

That's it,nothing she said shows any sign of "pivoting".

[Warren DeMontague]

41. Hmmmm. Hopefully she'll do the same thing for the 1st Amendment.

I think putting people in prison for a year for burning a flag is a bit excessive, don't you?

[Major Hogwash]

28. On her jaw.

Whenever she opens her mouth, she contradicts herself.

Boo-yah!

[JaneyVee]

25. Umm...maybe you should watch the video...

Clinton in PA: "We have to end the culture of gun violence" so that young people know "the gun is not the answer to anything."

[HERVEPA]

27. Well, that's a fucking daring statement. Yes ma'am it sure is. Your posts are truly pathetic.

[beedle]

37. Yeah, so much difference between that and what Sanders was saying

Remember how Sanders was all for increasing the violent gun culture?

But surely Hillary clearly explained to them how she still supports repealing that bill that protects them from being held responsible if when they follow all the proper precautions and legally sell one of their guns, and someone then uses it to commit a crime, that the victims can then come back and sue you, the person who followed all the rules in selling a legal product, into bankruptcy ... right? She did explain that to them right? I mean, she did stick to at least one of her principles, right?

[Major Hogwash]

26. Voted for the bill to give $4 million dollars for Remington.

So, she could politicize yet another Sandy Hook.

#WhichHillary??

[Armstead]

29. She's just aiming for the votes

[HooptieWagon]

30. The turbine-powered weathervane is just warming up.

[LyndaG]

31. The speech aired on C-Span today?

She was in North eastern PA. She mentioned Sandy Hook and the victims. She also stated her position on sensible gun laws like universal background checks. Said most gun owners support that. I didn't hear any major pivot.

[Gwhittey]

36. While in NY

She was very anti-gun. For whole time she was talking about how bad Sanders was for not supporting suing gun manufacturers over making guns that are legal. No wonder people support her you can not figure anything out logically. If you in one state try and slam your opponent about how you support one most obvious attempts to ban guns and then in another say you are only for sensible gun laws then you pivoted. The suing over Sandy Hook only by so party hack can be even remotely thought of as sensible gun laws.

[LyndaG]

39. I live in Trumbull, CT, which isn't far from Newtown

If she had a major pivot and pandered to gun owners, I would've noticed and it would've bothered me. I didn't hear anything like that. She mentioned the daughter of the Principal of Sandy Hook, how brave her Mom was to attempt to stop the gunman. She mentioned other victims of gun violence.

[Purveyor]

33. So you think you can trust a damn word that comes out of that woman's mouth...

Uh nope.

[BillZBubb]

34. Hillary doesn't pivot, she "evolves". She adapts to the political environment as needed.

It's political natural selection. How can anyone be against you when you can be both for and against anything at any time as needed? Hillary survives!

She's as phony as a three dollar bill, but she's got a legion of adulators who will rationalize or ignore anything she does.

[riversedge]

35. All politicians have to strick that balance between the 2nd amendment and

gun legislation. Mocking and making fun of that principle is stupid.

[beedle]

38. Pfffft!!!

Finally you admit the stupidity of Clinton mocking Sanders stance on gun legislation.

We accept your apology.

[Warren DeMontague]

40. Except when Sanders does it

amirite?

[hellofromreddit]

43. Sanders has a pretty good balance. But not according to Hillary.

Earlier her position on guns was absolutist. Now it's more nuanced, which appears to be a result of campaigning in PA more than anything else.

[jfern]

42. Hillary's positions on every issue are what is most convenient at the moment

I don't know why anyone would trust anything she says about her positions.

[John Poet]

44. Hillary now thinks "gun rights are important"?

Hillary is now the stooge of the NRA!

Never wouldda seen that coming...