DU pro-Sanders?

[LAS14]

"After nearly a year on the campaign trail, the list of sites with a pro-Sanders slant has grown quite long with Salon, The Nation, Huffington Post, Raw Story, AlterNet, US Uncut, Democratic Underground, and Daily Kos remaining the most viable progressive sites to have gone full-in on Sanders' campaign"

This is a quote from http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511823129.

I'm surprised that DU is labeled pro-Sanders. I recognize that the Sanders folks have been much more vocal, but I don't see that as a DU decision. It's a style thing that differentiates Sanders supporters from Hillary supporters. This is just a vote from me to recommend DU as a place where Democrats can either find support among fellow believers or duke it out with the opposition. I think it's great place.

I've recently joined Discussionist and Reddit to try to make Hillary's presence more noticeable and they don't hold a candle to DU. They're chaotic!! (And the font is too tiny!)

[MattP]

1. I find it fair, rough at times but everybody has a voice

[BillZBubb]

2. Most of those sites listed aren't "pro" Sanders.

It seems like if a site allows any criticism of Her Majesty, it is "pro" Sanders.

[hollysmom]

3. put up a poll if you want to know and most of those sites are not prro-sanders,. sheesh.

[-none]

5. They don't dare.

[SalviaBlue]

20. Every poll I have ever seen on DU is overwhelmingly pro Sanders.

[Trenzalore]

4. I think it is fair

There are more Sanders supporters here than Hillary Supporters.

[Rex]

6. 3/4 of this site are Sanders supporters.

At least the ones that will vote in polls, say it is.

[nashville_brook]

7. The People's View even worth quoting? i think not.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

11. every few days they post this bunk in multiple threads, hoping to slip it by

[Dem2]

8. 85-15

That's a pretty major bias I think.

[NurseJackie]

19. 85 to 15 is more accurate ... according to the site owner (Skinner). Which ...

... is reflected in the frequent 6 to 1 jury decisions ... which ultimately resulted in Skinner eliminating the automatic "time-out".

[SheilaT]

9. This place is not pro-Sanders, even though

the majority of posters here support him. The Hillary crowd does an excellent job of keeping their turf free of the slightest criticism or even a posting of unpleasant facts about her. They also patrol much of this site, alerting on posts in other areas that they don't like. And apparently the Admins are very pro-Hillary. They've changed the rules about time outs and tombstoning, allowing the very worst of the Hillary crowd to remain here.

This year after reading this site since not long after it went up, and joining sometime in 2002, I have finally put a total of six members on IGNORE, and my life here is much better since then. I rather suspect I'm on a lot of Ignore lists myself, which is also a good thing.

If this place becomes full on Pro Hillary they will lose many of their best and long time members.

[Dem2]

17. .

[Kittycat]

10. I don't think it's going to change.

Demographics aren't in your favor.

I mean that in the best possible way. See voting trends, then read up on generations. Lots of talk about Millennials, but GenZ/iGen/GenMe are currently crossing the voter threshold and aren't technically Millenials at all. These are the kids that were handed our first iPods.

Generation Alpha is in kindergarten right now. This gen will be the most technologically advanced/catered generation of our lifetime. They won't just use technology alongside curriculum and engage socially - by the time they hit middle school, if not 3rd grade, these kids will have it fully integrated. Some of my son's learning is this way now (3rd).

We have no measure of how each push brings change, expectation and access to information and understanding - or awareness. They will demand more of the world, because they will understand more of it than we do. While we revel in denialism - tuned in to what the MSN tells us to think, these kids will watch the destruction of the planet through wars and climate change unfold right in the classroom, then debate it's merits with students half way across the world. And then we age and criticize them, when they passed us up long ago.

[MattP]

12. You can't predict how children will grow up

Look at how the hope and change of the 60's turned out nobody knows

[Kittycat]

14. What they will see...

In Europe and Canada, their peers will be able to obtain higher education while they struggle in life, or go in to massive debt.

In Euope and Canada, when their online peers are sick, they get treatment. While their families may have to decided between eating or paying rent, because the costs of accessing Healthcare have risen beyond reach - despite mandated health insurance.

They will see their parents continue to work longer hours, have second jobs, and maybe take care of their siblings - while making less over time. While the 1% continue to make more and grow further apart from the working class.

And they will see the impact of climate change on the web. What the world was like in their parents and grandparents time, and what it looks like in theirs, and they will ask us why we didn't do anything to stop it.

Should I go on? Because I haven't even touched on war or overthrowing governments and stripping them of their natural resources.

But you are right. We can't fully predict what children of today will think tomorrow. But unless we change - we can be certain that the outlook will not be favorable. Further, it's likely it they will only push further away from the path the establishment is so hell bent on continuing.

[nichomachus]

13. Oh, for heaven's sake

There are a lot of pro-Sanders supporters here, but you had to know DU jumped the shark when Skinner prematurely changed his avatar to Mrs. Clinton. That threw all pretension of objectivity out the window.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

15. I think you may mean "pretense of neutrality".

And, while Skinner has never pretended to be neutral himself, he has done an admirable job of keeping the administration of the site neutral.

[Buzz Clik]

18. +1

Anyone who makes a really big deal about Skinner's leanings has their head wedged deep up their ass.

[aikoaiko]

21. Up until he decided to protect loud HRC supporters from community standards enforcement

when he removed the 5 hide timeout rule.

[cwydro]

26. Exactly.

[Buzz Clik]

16. Why is objectivity a necessity for Skinner?

He has let the Sanders clan run this place for six months. Who gives a shit who Skinner supports?

[Orsino]

22. Depends on what you mean by "DU decision."

I don't know how the discussion threads are slanting, but I suspect it's still toward Sanders. DU polls I've seen definitely tend that way.

DU leans progressive.

[ibegurpard]

23. nope

Admins are vocally pro-Hillary.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

24. I would say that DDU is roughly 70-30 Sanders

Political websites tend to attract political junkies, who are all over the spectrum, and activists, who tend to be further from the political center. In the case of a Free Republic, that means they are far more likely to support a Ted Cruz over a Jeb! Here, it means posters tend to support Sanders over Clinton.

The electorate-at-large cares about politics a lot less and tends to be more centrist in its outlook.

[SalviaBlue]

25. I think its pretty obvious the majority of DU'ers prefer Sanders. nt

[qdouble]

27. There's a very obvious Sanders slant on this site

I'd say it's probably 50-30 in favor of Sanders...with the remaining 20% being right wing trolls pretending to be Sanders supporters just so they can post anti-Hillary, right wing garbage.

[rock]

28. K & R

As I've said before: I don't want anyone to think I draw ALL BSers with the same wide brush. I may (in general) criticize them or maybe at times a lot of them, but the fact is I think the great majority are like any group of Democrats. Now to my point: I agree with you. There is however a very vocal group of rebellious, excitable, fanatic, hot-headed, crazy-eyed, ... Well, you get the point.

[Demsrule86]

29. It is my opinion

Du is pro-Sanders...and they have been allowed to post awful stuff that would have got them banned in 08. Many Hillary posts have been trashed too. The primary will end and then Bernie supporter have a choice.