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[brooklynite]

My guess in Clinton +17

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[Beacool]

1. Her current lead is 275 pledged delegates.

I think that she'll top 300 after Tuesday.

[SFnomad]

5. Secretary Clinton's pledged delegate lead is currently only 241 delegates

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D
or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2016

[Beacool]

42. I prefer to use RCP.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

[SFnomad]

45. That's your choice, but their number are off / incomplete

They're missing 49 delegates in Washington State that have gone to Bernie Sanders and 19 that went to Clinton. There are other minor differences, and that is expected to have 1 here or there, but nothing else like Washington .

[Lucinda]

2. I'm thinking easily +20

[metamorphosis]

3. But there are scandals & legal issues that may sabotage her before the convention.

Hillary speaks as if she's running because she'll be able to "get things done," but if the republicans hold the congress (50/50% chance or as high as 75% chance), there well-known hatred of her will lead them to drop virtual "atom bombs" on her desk so often than she won't be able to govern effectively (in Obama's case, Biden recently said that the GOP leaders dropped approximately 8 'atom bombs' on their desks), coupled with constant harassment and unwillingness to participate in governing with President.

What in the world makes anyone imagine that HRC can overcome the utter hatred that the Republicans have for her? At best, she will have as little success as Obama has had, and at worst, the republicans may consider her a criminal, pausing not until she is impeached and removed from office. Her only chance of success would be if the Democrats somehow regain the House and Senate --that's the only way she could get things done short of surrendering to the Koch faction and just doing whatever the republicans want her to (at that point, might as well admit that she is already a Republican in policy terms).

[brooklynite]

4. Whereas an avowed Socialist will rally the Repblicans to his cause?

[metamorphosis]

11. Bernie has mensch power, also strong bond with the biblical prophets; GOP will give him a chance

A lot of Republican and conservative types have taken a liking to bernie, which helps to explain the votes he's gotten in some conservative states (in the prairies/west). even his radical critique of government and call for revolutionary change rings true to some independent conservatives.

His gun stance gains them a kind of respect for him, being willing to think for himself on this issue.

bernie is a colleague in senate/congress, and respected, even liked by peers across the aisle, and they have passed bills together (.e.g. veterans' legislation co-sponsored).

further, the GOP folks have to avoid seeming overly unfair. If the guy does a decent job that they can live with, I think they might get along reasonably well.

answer: yes, bernie would have a better chance than HRC to govern effectively.

[Nonhlanhla]

20. Oh dear

The GOP agenda is the opposite of that of the biblical prophets (whose emphasis was often on social justice, particularly economic justice). Do you think that they will love Bernie? They will not. The only reason they don't hate him so far is because he has no real power that threatens them so far - indeed, they love him because he opposes someone that they already hate. They would hate him soon enough if they ran against him, and they would hate him with the passion of a thousand suns if he were president and tried to enact any of his plans.

Let's not kid ourselves here that the GOP will swoon in ecstasy in their encounters with Bernie.

[Beacool]

43. Wow, I'm always amazed by the stuff I read here.

Mensch power??????

[Thinkingabout]

34. The delegates will still belong to Hillary and she can give them to whom she wants.

[silvershadow]

6. Still not be enough to close the deal, even this late. What a weak candidate.

[KingFlorez]

7. It's been closed ages ago save for the formalities

She will be declared the nominee on the first ballot at the convention. It's over.

[silvershadow]

8. No it hasn't.

[KingFlorez]

9. There is no way forward for Sanders

He might not get out of the race, but he has no mathematical path forward. Bye Bernie

[silvershadow]

10. link? nt

[Zynx]

12. Quite a few of them exist and I know you've seen them.

[silvershadow]

15. I haven't seen one, short of Hillbots opinions

[KingFlorez]

14. lol, the delegate count tells the whole story

Bye, Bernie

[silvershadow]

16. Good luck in the general

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. Oh stop. If there WERE "no mathematical path forward" you'd hear it every hour on the hour.

Until Bernie Sanders dropped out.

And hearing it every hour on the hour on DU is opinion and nothing else. Okay opinion+wishful thinking.

[KingFlorez]

19. Oh, I forgot, Sanders is way ahead in the delegate count

I forgot, it's against the rules to say that Sanders has less delegates. I apologize for offending you.

[cherokeeprogressive]

32. That's not what you said.

[MadBadger]

13. Tell that to Barack Obama

[silvershadow]

18. Hillary is no Barack Obama, as they know. In fact, she's a step backwards. Or ten.

[MadBadger]

21. She is no Barack Obama, sure

But just because she doesnt have it wrapped up yet means absolutely nothing. She is doing better than he did at this point of time.

[silvershadow]

22. And she will lose the general.

[MadBadger]

23. Ok, great. Nice talking to you.

[silvershadow]

24. I wish I could say the same

[MadBadger]

25. Not nice talking to me?

[silvershadow]

27. Not fond of the snark so I pushed it back on you. Unhappy?

[MadBadger]

28. Not worth my time

[rock]

35. By your logic

Bernie is weaker. (He's losing to her, see.)

[silvershadow]

36. No he isn't. This has been a coast to coast Traveling Fraud Fest. nt

[rock]

37. I suppose I can make one more try

He's losing to her but is the stronger candidate? Have I got you right?

[silvershadow]

39. I don't care if you have me right or not. My position is crystal clear and has been

posted here over and over for months now. Feel free to look into it until you are satisfied you do have it right.

[rock]

41. Er, does it contain the same kind of logic?

[Beacool]

44. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.........

[Gomez163]

26. Numbers don't matter to a Socialist, unicorn poop does.

[LiberalFighter]

29. It will be 60 or more.

[CrowCityDem]

30. It will be an albatross sinking Bernie's last chance.

[LiberalFighter]

31. At this time in 2008 Obama led Clinton 1551 to 1506 (+45)

[seekthetruth]

33. The poster of the OP supports fracking.

[B Calm]

38. Isn't that a right-wing point of view?

[seekthetruth]

46. Support for Clinton = support for fracking

Either you're for the earth or against. We've done enough damage to our planet. If Clinton is to be the nominee without my vote and then president beyond that, then she better get with the program on this one. President Obama as well. No more off shore drilling. It's time to come up with five year ambitious plan or something. And don't say we can't do it because we fucking can. Honestly, I could give a crap if we don't reduce the amount of tuition so that we can get real reform for our energy infrastructure. But money is tied to politics so I don't think we will see you need true reform anytime soon. Sanders is the only one truly serious about trying to repair some of the damage that we have done to the atmosphere in the past 200 plus years.

She hasn't made a commitment to that yet, and sadly I don't think she will.

No room for error on this one. We're behind the curve and I'd rather be proactive now rather than reactive later.

[whatchamacallit]

40. Yay on to continued destruction of this country!