After Tuesday, is it over?

[kstewart33]

Associated Press, this morning:

After her victory in New York this past week, Clinton has a lead over Sanders of more than 200 pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses. As she narrowed Sanders' dwindling opportunities to catch up, Clinton continued to build on her overwhelming support among superdelegates — the party officials who are free to back any candidate they choose.

In the past two days, Clinton picked up 11 more endorsements from superdelegates, according to an Associated Press survey.

Factoring in superdelegates, Clinton's lead stands at 1,941 to 1,191 for Sanders, according to the AP count. That puts her at 81 percent of the 2,383 delegates needed to win the nomination.

At stake Tuesday are 384 delegates in primaries in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island. This group of contests offers Sanders one of the last chances left on the election calendar to gain ground in pledged delegates and make a broader case to superdelegates to support him.

Yet it appears Clinton could do well enough Tuesday to end the night with 90 percent of the delegates needed to win the nomination, leaving her just 200 or so shy.

The Sanders campaign knows a tough battle awaits in those five states and says it will reassess its campaign after Tuesday. If Sanders fails to win significantly in the latest primaries, he won't have another chance to draw closer in a big way until California votes on June 7.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3248daa84d6f45f59749d44843419eff/delegate-math-how-tuesday-could-close-door-sanders-bid

[floriduck]

1. Nope. nm

[Armstead]

2. It's never over...You're stuck with it, regardless of the outcome of the nomination process.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

3. A journey of a thousand li begins with one step. Lao Tsu

The fight against a corrupt political system will not end if Bernie loses.

[dchill]

4. No. Your team needs to double down on the demoralization.

[oasis]

5. Hillary will be going full steam ahead toward the GE Wednesday morning.

Bernie will be left twisting in the wind.

[Tarc]

6. Except for the diehard believers in #berniemath, it will indeed be over after the 26th

I hope for the sake of the Party, Sanders steps down on the 27th, rather than sell the false hope that he can carry California and Oregon at 75-80% an save the day. It's time for him to stop stringing along his base.

[Armstead]

11. We're not suckers...We know the odds

he's not "stringing us along."

[Sheepshank]

70. Here on DU, we are pretty wonky with all the info gathered regarding Delegates

There are many more time that number of people out in the real world, that only know what there are hearing from Bernie and his handlers. Namely that it is still a foot race, there is still a path to victory. I'm not saying these millions are suckers or stupid, just unpolitical, politically naive, lack the desire to do independent research and are under-informed. Bernie is definitely stringing them along.

[BeyondGeography]

7. No, but she'll be going into the top of the 9th with a 12-run lead

and a future Hall of Fame closer on the mound facing a Little League lineup. Only the die-hards will still be watching.

[Armstead]

14. That's a disappointing analogy coming from you

We're not "Little Leaguers"

Have some respect.

[BeyondGeography]

19. Only meant to convey the degree of difficulty

I've watched too much baseball not to put that qualifier in there.

[Armstead]

20. It's so dismissive..

If you want to use a sports analigy, a better one would be one of those wealthy teams that's a smoothly operated machine against a scrappy team with a less wealthy owner who doesn't have the money or highly paid players and coaching staff....but which has pulled a surprising rise in the ranks.

[BeyondGeography]

27. Clinton didn't really have the better team

She was spotted a big lead though. The South was always going to be hers plus she would hold serve on her 2008 states. Everyone saw it, so they stayed away. Except Bernie. Huge props to him for having not only the guts to go for it, but to throw himself into it with more force than any other 74-year-old dude on the planet could have mustered.

I hope he spawns imitators within the party. Part of that will depend on how he plays his hand here. I'm rooting for a constructive outcome (but there are so few of those in life).

[stonecutter357]

8. K&R!

[DCBob]

9. Yeah I think so.

Devine said they would "reevaluate" after Tuesday. So if Bernie gets slaughtered, which I expect to be the case, what else could the evaluation be other than its over.

[Broward]

10. The Koch brothers are indebted to you.

[Hiraeth]

12. you know what. fuck a bunch of super delegates. they make me sick and I wanta throw up.

[Tarc]

18. At the moment, the expectation is that the superdelegates will largely go along with the pledged

delegate count. If that happens, then the supers are really just a rubber stamp on the will of the voter. Is that so bad?

[bvf]

13. Nope. You may as well get used to it. n/t

[MoonRiver]

24. I feel sorry for you.

[bvf]

29. Ew! Brush your teeth, for chrissakes!

[MoonRiver]

32. I do, plus floss!

My advice is as follows: "there are none so blind as those who do not see."

[bvf]

36. Do you floss with bacon?

Keep your distance.

[MoonRiver]

38. Will do, happily!

[Rhiannon12866]

47. I think we have more in common than you know... ;)

[MoonRiver]

58. I'm very happy to see that!

We need as many as possible supporting animal rights and welfare!

[Rhiannon12866]

63. I feel the same way!

I care about a lot of issues, but animals are way up on my list. I adopt older dogs from rescue and I found my cat as a tiny kitten in a grocery store parking lot. But there are so many stories that break my heart every day.

[-none]

15. The law suits over the elections frauds are just getting started in more than a few states.

They will definitely be a thing come the general elections.

[SidDithers]

16. It was over on March 15...

They're just playing out the string, now.

Sid

[Squinch]

17. ^ This.

[firebrand80]

22. Exactly

Bernie has the money to stay in as long as he wants, but he hasn't had a realistic shot of winning since he lost OH.

[utopia_basin]

21. It was over the moment Sanders claimed Hillary was not qualified

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/06/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-qualified/index.html

[cherokeeprogressive]

23. LOL it was supposed to be over the FIRST "Super Tuesday". Then the second. Then...

EVERY Tuesday became Super Tuesday and it was supposed to be over.

[farleftlib]

26. IKR

Bernie's staying in until the Convention. You'd think they'd remember that by now.

[bvf]

31. Oh, they remember, all right.

They're counting on Sanders supporters to forget.

Ain't happening, either.

[Demsrule86]

52. It was over the first super tuesday

All of this is a complete waste of time and money.

[mmonk]

25. No. As income inequality keeps going and peoples' lives

go nowhere, this is just the beginning.

[UMTerp01]

28. Its been "over" for awhile

Its only this narrative of momentum that has kept it a story. Hillary had late wins in 08 against Obama but the same narrative of delegate math and how she couldn't catch him was happening long before that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

30. It's just beginning, regardless of what happens on Tuesday.

Hillary might win the nomination but the movement Bernie has inspired is not going away.

[LibDemAlways]

33. Your attitude is typical of the arrogance of

Clinton supporters who are seeking a coronation. Not going to happen. Get used to it.

[qdouble]

34. it's been over a long time now....

it's just a question of how long will Bernie supporters be delusional about his probability of winning.

[1StrongBlackMan]

40. While I agree that this primary contest was decided about a month ago ...

No one likes being called delusional.

[qdouble]

45. Well I wouldn't label all of his supporters as being delusional...

the ones that think he's going to win all the remaining states by huge margins even though that runs counter to all polling are a bit on the delusional side though. I wanted Hillary to win '08, but when the writing was on the wall that Obama was going to win, I backed him and was happy for him... and didn't hold on to any far fetched upset fantasies. This year when it's clear that Hillary will win, we're seeing people come up with the most outlandish scenarios in which there will be an upset... there's either a lot of delusion or trolling going on at this point.

[1StrongBlackMan]

65. I agree ...

It's a lot like watching a play off game with a bunch of folks wearing cheeseheads.

[procon]

35. Yeah, it's definitely over when even Bernie's fans have stopped promoting his ideas.

The only thing they're doing now mutual ego stroking, taking turns throwing out any sort of third tier dross written by anonymous, cloistered bloggers that popular the dim back alleys of the internet.

[JoePhilly]

37. You can tell its over because we now have Bernie supporters taking about ...

... Bill's dick.

Its a dying campaign's final screams.

[TheDormouse]

39. Hillary can't win before the nomination. It's simple Math.

[Zynx]

42. Well, neither did Obama, but Hillary was mature in 2008 and quit once the super delegates made

matters plain. Super delegates make up 20% of delegates and make it awfully hard to win the nomination outright with pledged delegates. However, they'll be locked up for Hillary before long. Sanders will look like a fool and go down in disgrace if he doesn't accept the reality come early June. The clock is ticking.

[Demsrule86]

55. Sure she can

I really doubt, whatever crap is being spewed by campaign folks who want a steady paycheck,that Bernie will stay in and destroy any influence he might have. Annoying as he is, I do not think he is stupid. He will get out maybe this week. Certainly, after California. I think there is a good chance he will not go to California.

[Codeine]

41. Bernie will win California by 147%

and be swept into the Oval Office on a wave of champagne!

[NanceGreggs]

56. After this Tuesday ...

... Bernie will actually have to win California by 207% - but he can do it!!!!!! Just you wait and see!!!!

[GoldenOldie]

43. Truly bothersome, many times snide and sarcastic comments coming from Clinton supporters....

and supposedly Progressive Democrats, leave me in a daze.

As an 80+, female activist the majority of my life, one who knows that there are women fully capable of being POTUS and hopefully within my lifetime, it saddens me that many Democratic women apparently do not remember nor never learned about the suffering just for the right to vote. Why any women would now turn around and deny the right-to-vote to anyone?..........

This is a PRIMARY folks! Just because Hillary (or any candidate) can claim the South, doesn't give her a victory for all 50-States. Why would any candidate deny the right to vote in California, or any other State simply because they won 3 or 4 States at the onset? Every registered voter has to have the opportunity to cast their vote, be it in Iowa or California. Delegates fine, but I want to know how the population voted. United States of America!

[cherokeeprogressive]

44. Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

[Demsrule86]

53. Are you serioius

Bernie Sanders is a candidate...nothing more...he did not have enough support to win votes...it was not stolen. That is how it works. WE can give him a participation trophy if it makes you feel better.

[cherokeeprogressive]

61. Yawn...

Did you say something?

[Rex]

46. If she wins big in California, then imo it is over.

The big states are what either make or break a candidate.

[stevenleser]

48. It was over after Super Tuesday. Everything since has been death throes and learning to accept

the situation, both of which have been happening extremely slowly.

[Garrett78]

67. Pretty much, though you could argue March 15th was the nail in the coffin.

Of course, I'd argue it was over before it started. Sanders was never going to be the nominee. It was going to be Clinton or possibly Biden, had the latter decided to run.

A lead of 300 or so delegates after tomorrow's primaries should make clear to the most ardent denier that Clinton will be the nominee.

[MineralMan]

49. It was over this past week.

It'll be more over this coming week. It'll finally be over in July. It's over, that's all.

[alcibiades_mystery]

50. All over but the pouting

I do hope all the states get to vote, though.

When Bernie loses California like he lost New York, the temper tantrums will be legendary comedy.

[NurseJackie]

51. It's been over. This solidifies it.

[oldandhappy]

54. Depends on your definition of 'over'!!!

If you are focused on the nomination, then maybe you it will be 'over' for you and you will be happy. Short view.

No matter what happens I will be happy because as we go along more and more people are ready to move towards an on-going movement to keep talking and acting on the issues raised by Senator Sanders. The development of an on-going movement is in early stages. Nothing there is 'over'. Long view.

[kstewart33]

59. You are absolutely right.

At this point, it should be all about growing and organizing so it to becomes a strong and vibrant national movement.

I'm a Hillary supporter, but I and I'd wager many other Hillary supporters are with the movement.

It's up to Bernie, and we'll all be watching to see how he leads it after the election.

[Skink]

57. Yadayadayada

Bernie's in the White House.

[Lil Missy]

60. it's already over. The fat lady is clearing her throat

[Gothmog]

62. It has been over some time

Sanders cannot overcome the current delegate differential

[ScreamingMeemie]

64. I hope not. Sanders promised us he would stay until the convention.

I hope he does. Because, for this little while, he has given me something to believe in.

[LexVegas]

66. It was over in March. nt

[2banon]

68. No. You're NOT going to get away with DENYING California TWO MORE MONTHS.

[Orsino]

69. Depends on your motivation.

If you are in a hurry only to see a likely winner emerge, Tuesday's as good a day as any to quit and find a new hobby.

But most of us will still engage, as there are many states still to vote, and after that a platform and ticket to tussle over at the convention. Lots of work remains, and you are invited.